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Masonic Notes And Queries.

ANOTHER " PREROGATIVE" OE THE G . M . ( page 309 ) The " prerogatives" of the G . M . are multiplying . "A Deputy" says , "that a G . M . ( is the G-M . of Scotland included F ) has the prerogative of making Masons at sight ; one which is exercised in the case of princes . " I trust sincerelfor the honour of

y , Masonry , that this is untrue . It was asserted at page 29 S that the G . M . had a certain prerogative relative to foundation stones ( I should have been happy to have seen such assertion made good ) ; but at page 310 Bro . A . 0 . Haye emphatically contradicts said report . I trust some

brother will be able even more emphatically to contradict what "A Deputy" has said . I consider it to he the proud boast of Masonrythat , as all men entered into the world in the same manner ( the lex natural making no distinction between the prince and the peasant ) , so do all enter a Masonic

lodge ; and , whether rich or poor , high or low , the same preparation and ceremonial was applicable to every son of Adam—a tribute to our common humanity . Hence may we truly be said to meet upon the level , and the equality title of brother is therefore no misnomer . I also thoughtthat" making Masons "

could only be done in a properly constituted lodge , where a competent number of brethren were present . While I trust my loyalty is unquestionable , I hope that what "A Deputy" has said is untrue . The company of princes would be dearly bought at such a sacrifice , and with little honour to -them . —SEMPEB VIRENS .

EXCERPTS FROM PROVINCIAL GRAND LODGE MINUTES . Is a member of a Prov . Grand Lodge entitled to receive from the Prov . G . Sec . a copy of any particular minute or minutes on offering to pay what may be the stipulated fee for the transcription ? A case in point has arisen in connexion with the recent nomination

of a Prov . G . Sec . for the Middle Ward of Lanarkshire . A member of the Prov . G . Lodge applied to the interim Secretary for a copy of the minutes of the meeting at Motherwell in August last , and which are held by some of the brethren to be deficient . The Secretaryin his replstates that " ho does not see

, y , the necessity for copying for any brother , minutes passed hy the Prov . G . Lodge . " And so the copy is not forthcoming . Will any brother kindly enlighten me as to the rule in such cases . —BUTE .

THE BOSICRUCIAN SOCIETY . —ENGLISH BRANCH . I beg to inform " P . H . " that he is quite in error in stating that anything concerning Rosicrucianism " can now be got at in a cheap and compendious form by becoming a Prater under Pratres Iiughan and Eawley" and I therefore hope he will

kindlwith-, y draw the statement , as I most emphatically assure him that , although a humble officer in the philosophical society referred to , under the honorary presidentship of the Eight Hon . Lord Kenlis ( Avhich has , by the way , no actual connexion with Masonry ) , I have no power to secure the election of any

candidate , or to use any ritual or other ceremonial connected Avith the Order . The number of members is limited to the square of 12 , and I know not a more restrictive society in England , or one in which the membership is more carefully selected .

Masonic Notes And Queries.

Iu Scotland they are also most rigidly scrupulous in receiving candidates , ancl test the merits of the various aspirants with more than usual scrutiny . What the society really is , or Avas , is known but to a , few indeed ; ancl those few , though mostly far apart , are still one as to the nature and objects of a society which has outlived the curiosity of centuriesand is

, still as great a mystery as ever to the outer world . — W . J . HUGH AN . BEO . HUGHAN ' S ANALYSIS AND BRO , J . L . W . I feel much indebted to Bro . J . L . W . for his kind reference to my Analysis of Freemasonry . I should

be glad to receive authoritative information relative to the degrees he refers to connected with Ireland . The Marie is only allovred to be worked under the Royal Arch Grand Chapter , and I believe is a prerequisite to Boyal Arch Masonry , and I have always understood that the Excellent is continued to be given in

Ireland as heretofore . In other words , I mean that a candidate for E . A . degree must first be advanced as a Mark Master Mason . —W . J . HUGHAK . " THE DELUSIONS * OE" BRO . A . 0 . HAVE . Page 230 . " One thing has never been disputed ,

and that is-the invention of the Corinthian Order by Callimachus ' . " Page 2 G 9 . " The fact that Callimachus was the originator of the Corinthian Order . " Page 269 . "The fact that the Corinthian style of building was not used tillthe time of Alexander the

, Great . " ( Alexander succeeded his father , Philip , B . C . 336 . ) Page 269 . "The fonic originating in 500 B . C . 'PICTUS .

Correspondence.

CORRESPONDENCE .

The Editor is not responsible for the opinions expressed by Correspondents . D . P . G . M . TO THE JEDITOl ! OE TIIE PliEEJIASOSS' MJAGAZINX JJfD MASONIC JSTISOOB . Dear Sir and Brother—The correspondence on

, this subject reveals a state of affairs far from creditable to the boasted administration of Grand Lodge . The reason Ave have heard so little about it is that the gentlemen Avho are so treated do not like to take up their own cause in Grand Lodge and be supposed to be soliciting honourancl no one else cares about the

, matter . Were the D . P . G . M . 's properly treated , AVO should find the office held by brethren of a still higher social class ; and it would become a more valuable step in Masonic promotion . A few peers , baronets , and other men of standing have not disdained to hold the

post of D . P . G . M ., although exposed to the Grand Swordbearership ; but a distinct recognition in Grand Lodge would not discourage others from accepting the office , and thus it would become more valuable to the members of less distinguished social rank . To be a D . P . G . M . would be a still greater honour , stimulus , and reward to an eminent provincial Mason .

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LAYING THE FOUNDATION STONE OF THE MASONIC HALL AT LEWES . Article 19
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Masonic Notes And Queries.

ANOTHER " PREROGATIVE" OE THE G . M . ( page 309 ) The " prerogatives" of the G . M . are multiplying . "A Deputy" says , "that a G . M . ( is the G-M . of Scotland included F ) has the prerogative of making Masons at sight ; one which is exercised in the case of princes . " I trust sincerelfor the honour of

y , Masonry , that this is untrue . It was asserted at page 29 S that the G . M . had a certain prerogative relative to foundation stones ( I should have been happy to have seen such assertion made good ) ; but at page 310 Bro . A . 0 . Haye emphatically contradicts said report . I trust some

brother will be able even more emphatically to contradict what "A Deputy" has said . I consider it to he the proud boast of Masonrythat , as all men entered into the world in the same manner ( the lex natural making no distinction between the prince and the peasant ) , so do all enter a Masonic

lodge ; and , whether rich or poor , high or low , the same preparation and ceremonial was applicable to every son of Adam—a tribute to our common humanity . Hence may we truly be said to meet upon the level , and the equality title of brother is therefore no misnomer . I also thoughtthat" making Masons "

could only be done in a properly constituted lodge , where a competent number of brethren were present . While I trust my loyalty is unquestionable , I hope that what "A Deputy" has said is untrue . The company of princes would be dearly bought at such a sacrifice , and with little honour to -them . —SEMPEB VIRENS .

EXCERPTS FROM PROVINCIAL GRAND LODGE MINUTES . Is a member of a Prov . Grand Lodge entitled to receive from the Prov . G . Sec . a copy of any particular minute or minutes on offering to pay what may be the stipulated fee for the transcription ? A case in point has arisen in connexion with the recent nomination

of a Prov . G . Sec . for the Middle Ward of Lanarkshire . A member of the Prov . G . Lodge applied to the interim Secretary for a copy of the minutes of the meeting at Motherwell in August last , and which are held by some of the brethren to be deficient . The Secretaryin his replstates that " ho does not see

, y , the necessity for copying for any brother , minutes passed hy the Prov . G . Lodge . " And so the copy is not forthcoming . Will any brother kindly enlighten me as to the rule in such cases . —BUTE .

THE BOSICRUCIAN SOCIETY . —ENGLISH BRANCH . I beg to inform " P . H . " that he is quite in error in stating that anything concerning Rosicrucianism " can now be got at in a cheap and compendious form by becoming a Prater under Pratres Iiughan and Eawley" and I therefore hope he will

kindlwith-, y draw the statement , as I most emphatically assure him that , although a humble officer in the philosophical society referred to , under the honorary presidentship of the Eight Hon . Lord Kenlis ( Avhich has , by the way , no actual connexion with Masonry ) , I have no power to secure the election of any

candidate , or to use any ritual or other ceremonial connected Avith the Order . The number of members is limited to the square of 12 , and I know not a more restrictive society in England , or one in which the membership is more carefully selected .

Masonic Notes And Queries.

Iu Scotland they are also most rigidly scrupulous in receiving candidates , ancl test the merits of the various aspirants with more than usual scrutiny . What the society really is , or Avas , is known but to a , few indeed ; ancl those few , though mostly far apart , are still one as to the nature and objects of a society which has outlived the curiosity of centuriesand is

, still as great a mystery as ever to the outer world . — W . J . HUGH AN . BEO . HUGHAN ' S ANALYSIS AND BRO , J . L . W . I feel much indebted to Bro . J . L . W . for his kind reference to my Analysis of Freemasonry . I should

be glad to receive authoritative information relative to the degrees he refers to connected with Ireland . The Marie is only allovred to be worked under the Royal Arch Grand Chapter , and I believe is a prerequisite to Boyal Arch Masonry , and I have always understood that the Excellent is continued to be given in

Ireland as heretofore . In other words , I mean that a candidate for E . A . degree must first be advanced as a Mark Master Mason . —W . J . HUGHAK . " THE DELUSIONS * OE" BRO . A . 0 . HAVE . Page 230 . " One thing has never been disputed ,

and that is-the invention of the Corinthian Order by Callimachus ' . " Page 2 G 9 . " The fact that Callimachus was the originator of the Corinthian Order . " Page 269 . "The fact that the Corinthian style of building was not used tillthe time of Alexander the

, Great . " ( Alexander succeeded his father , Philip , B . C . 336 . ) Page 269 . "The fonic originating in 500 B . C . 'PICTUS .

Correspondence.

CORRESPONDENCE .

The Editor is not responsible for the opinions expressed by Correspondents . D . P . G . M . TO THE JEDITOl ! OE TIIE PliEEJIASOSS' MJAGAZINX JJfD MASONIC JSTISOOB . Dear Sir and Brother—The correspondence on

, this subject reveals a state of affairs far from creditable to the boasted administration of Grand Lodge . The reason Ave have heard so little about it is that the gentlemen Avho are so treated do not like to take up their own cause in Grand Lodge and be supposed to be soliciting honourancl no one else cares about the

, matter . Were the D . P . G . M . 's properly treated , AVO should find the office held by brethren of a still higher social class ; and it would become a more valuable step in Masonic promotion . A few peers , baronets , and other men of standing have not disdained to hold the

post of D . P . G . M ., although exposed to the Grand Swordbearership ; but a distinct recognition in Grand Lodge would not discourage others from accepting the office , and thus it would become more valuable to the members of less distinguished social rank . To be a D . P . G . M . would be a still greater honour , stimulus , and reward to an eminent provincial Mason .

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