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Correspondence.

CORRESPONDENCE .

Tfic Editor is not responsible for the opinions expressed by Correspondents , THE ILL . BEO . HYDE CLARKE , S . G . I . G . 33 ° OF EEANCE . XO THE EDITOIt OF THE PKEE 3 TASONS' MAGAZINE AWD MASOIflO JSIIltltOR . SIR , —In your issue of the 24 th June , iu reply to a

correspondent from this city , signing " Past Master , " with reference to our 111 . Bro . Hyde Clarke , of whose Masonic qualities you very properly speak in high terms , you take occasion to say that there is still living a Grand Master for Turkey . It will be interesting for the Craft to know who he is .

Unfortunately we are all here in complete ignorance of such a M . W . M . being in existence , or that there is such a thing as a Grand Lodge in this Empire . We all look forward hopelessly for such a governing body to be formed , but if it is in existence , as you state , you , or any of your readerswill confer a signal favour by

, informing us of its whereabouts . I deeply regret that you should have written in such very disparaging terms as you have done of the Provincial ( District ?) Grand Lodge of England in Turkey , of which the 11 W . Bro . Sir II . L . Bulwer is so distinguished a District G ' - . M ., aud Bro . Hyde

Clarke his Deputy . We certainly are a body recognised and known . Can the same be said of the Grand Lodge of Turkey ? Yours fraterually , A MEMBER OP THE D . G . L . OE TUBKEV . Constantinople , July 12 .

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ROYAL MASONIC INSTITUTION FOE BOYS .

TO 1 KB BDITOH OS THE jniEESIABONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC SIIRKOR . DEAB . SIR AND BROTHER , —I know nothing of the current affairs of our Masonic world except from public information , which is open to all the world . Erom the scanty record of events which crops out from time to time I glean all the knowledge I have ,

when I read the paper in your issue of July 15 th respecting the inauguration of the Boys' School , and it struck me that it affected the sportive character more than the official or even editorial . To tell the truth , I had entirely forgotten the result of the exhibition of some thirty designs for the proposed new

school at this time two years ago , but I read in the paper before adverted to , with the homage of great and deserved praise to Bro . S . B . Wilson , this passage : " Justice requires a faithful chronicle , to record the name of the architect who won the first prize at tho competition two years ago , but defect of memory may

perhaps cause a miscarriage of justice in attributing the original design to Mr . Edwin Pearse . " When I read this , I also , having lost sight of the fact , turned back to your pages to ascertain the truth , as I said , from the sources open to all the world . In the number of your Magazine for August 1 , 1863 , 1 find ,

" The following is the award in the late competition for designs for the building : —1 st premium , Mr . Edwin Pearse , Clapham ; motto , Knowledge is power . . . . Mr . Pearse ' s design is to be carried out , perhaps with modifications . " Collating these passages , I of course concluded that they were consistent with the fact .

Royal Masonic Institution Foe Boys.

In the course of my pursuit after knowledge , I came upon a paragraph in the Illustrated London News for last Saturday , July 22 nd , in reference to an illustration given in the number for the previous week , of the Dining Hall , which , however , does not do justice to its admirable proportions , ov to the appropriate roof . This paragraph statesex cathedra" We

, , are desired by Mr . Edwin Pearse to say that the building , with the exception of certain additions and modifications , has beeu carried out by Mr . S . B . Wilson and himself as joint architects , from the original design for which Mr . Pearse obtained the first premium two years ago . "

Afterwards I li ghted upon a letter from Bro . S . B . Wilson , in the FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE for the same Saturday , July 22 nd , wherein he adverts to the statement made in the previous issue , that Mr . Edwin Pearse furnished the " original design " for the building , which , he says , " is incorrect , and calculated to

mislead . I feel called upon to contradict that statement , and deny its accuracy . " Now , Sir , as a student of current Masonic history , aud no way interested in either position , for I am ashamed to acknowledge that I never heard of Mr . Edwin Pearse except through your columns , and certainly never saw him to my knowledge , I ask you ,

how can these discordant statements be reconciled ? Your paper of July 15 gives every honour and credit to Bro . Stephen Barton Wilson for carrying the original design into practical execution , but , with some misgivings , states that Mr . Pearse won the first prize two years ago for the original design ; your paper of August 1 st 1 SG 3 confirms thisas also does

, , , the paragraph quoted from the Illustrated London JVews . Now , in face of all this evidence , and as an entirely disinterested party , except as an advocate of fair play and justice , I beg to ask is Bro . S . B . Wilson justified in writing to you that it is incorrect to state Mr .

Pearse furnished the original design for the building , aud that he feels called upon to contradict such statement , and to deny its accuracy ? and if the words he uses mean anything , he denies that Mr . Pearse won the first prize at the competition . Bro . S . B . Wilson ' s claim to the respect and

esteem of the Craft is so undeniable , and so universally acknowledged , that he can well afford to share some of the credit of the new building in question with Mr . Edwin Pearse , of whom , as I said before , I know nothing personally , aud it is the abrupt tone of the denial which led me to make this inquiry . Your fraternally , July 24 th , 1865 . IGNORAMUS .

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TciNG WINES . —Tho practice of icing wines may he truly said to be destructive to every kind except champagne mid other effervescent wines ; ami even these , ltepfc long in ice , are not to be compared to the same wine when brought out of a cold cellar . Pew bouses have cold cellars , and in such cases , in warm weather , cooling becomes necessary ; but ten minutes or a quarter of an bour in the ice is quite sufficient to render it frappeas our French neighbours call it . The practice of

, putting lumps of ice into the wine itself is a barbarous one . The individual must indeed be a Goth who would in this way spoil " Creaming Sillery " or " Pearl of the Rhine , " and should he condemned to bad wine for the rest of his days , since it is evident that to him quality must be a matter of perfect indifference . —Sheen on " Wines and other Fermented Liquors . "

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CONSTITUTION OF THE ITALIAN FREEMASONS. Article 1
THE MASONIC CONVENTION FOR ITALY. Article 2
SYMBOLISM. Article 3
THE ERLANGEN REFORM LODGE. Article 4
ANTIQUITY OF MASONRY. Article 5
MASONIC EQUALITY. Article 7
M. MICHEL CHEVALIER AND ENGLISH ART. Article 8
FAITHFUL UNTO DEATH. Article 9
VISIBLE SPEECH. Article 11
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 11
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 12
ROYAL MASONIC INSTITUTION FOE BOYS. Article 12
Untitled Article 12
TEE MASONIC MIRROR. Article 13
MASONIC MEM. Article 13
METROPOLITAN. Article 13
PROVINCIAL. Article 13
ANCIENT AND ACCEPTED RITE. Article 15
ROYAL ARCH. Article 15
KNIGHTS TEMPLAR. Article 15
NEWSPAPER PRESS FUND. Article 15
LITERARY EXTRACTS. Article 16
PUBLIC AMUSEMENTS. Article 17
Untitled Article 17
Poetry. Article 17
FOLLOW THE TRUTH. Article 18
Untitled Article 18
THE WEEK. Article 18
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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Correspondence.

CORRESPONDENCE .

Tfic Editor is not responsible for the opinions expressed by Correspondents , THE ILL . BEO . HYDE CLARKE , S . G . I . G . 33 ° OF EEANCE . XO THE EDITOIt OF THE PKEE 3 TASONS' MAGAZINE AWD MASOIflO JSIIltltOR . SIR , —In your issue of the 24 th June , iu reply to a

correspondent from this city , signing " Past Master , " with reference to our 111 . Bro . Hyde Clarke , of whose Masonic qualities you very properly speak in high terms , you take occasion to say that there is still living a Grand Master for Turkey . It will be interesting for the Craft to know who he is .

Unfortunately we are all here in complete ignorance of such a M . W . M . being in existence , or that there is such a thing as a Grand Lodge in this Empire . We all look forward hopelessly for such a governing body to be formed , but if it is in existence , as you state , you , or any of your readerswill confer a signal favour by

, informing us of its whereabouts . I deeply regret that you should have written in such very disparaging terms as you have done of the Provincial ( District ?) Grand Lodge of England in Turkey , of which the 11 W . Bro . Sir II . L . Bulwer is so distinguished a District G ' - . M ., aud Bro . Hyde

Clarke his Deputy . We certainly are a body recognised and known . Can the same be said of the Grand Lodge of Turkey ? Yours fraterually , A MEMBER OP THE D . G . L . OE TUBKEV . Constantinople , July 12 .

Royal Masonic Institution Foe Boys.

ROYAL MASONIC INSTITUTION FOE BOYS .

TO 1 KB BDITOH OS THE jniEESIABONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC SIIRKOR . DEAB . SIR AND BROTHER , —I know nothing of the current affairs of our Masonic world except from public information , which is open to all the world . Erom the scanty record of events which crops out from time to time I glean all the knowledge I have ,

when I read the paper in your issue of July 15 th respecting the inauguration of the Boys' School , and it struck me that it affected the sportive character more than the official or even editorial . To tell the truth , I had entirely forgotten the result of the exhibition of some thirty designs for the proposed new

school at this time two years ago , but I read in the paper before adverted to , with the homage of great and deserved praise to Bro . S . B . Wilson , this passage : " Justice requires a faithful chronicle , to record the name of the architect who won the first prize at tho competition two years ago , but defect of memory may

perhaps cause a miscarriage of justice in attributing the original design to Mr . Edwin Pearse . " When I read this , I also , having lost sight of the fact , turned back to your pages to ascertain the truth , as I said , from the sources open to all the world . In the number of your Magazine for August 1 , 1863 , 1 find ,

" The following is the award in the late competition for designs for the building : —1 st premium , Mr . Edwin Pearse , Clapham ; motto , Knowledge is power . . . . Mr . Pearse ' s design is to be carried out , perhaps with modifications . " Collating these passages , I of course concluded that they were consistent with the fact .

Royal Masonic Institution Foe Boys.

In the course of my pursuit after knowledge , I came upon a paragraph in the Illustrated London News for last Saturday , July 22 nd , in reference to an illustration given in the number for the previous week , of the Dining Hall , which , however , does not do justice to its admirable proportions , ov to the appropriate roof . This paragraph statesex cathedra" We

, , are desired by Mr . Edwin Pearse to say that the building , with the exception of certain additions and modifications , has beeu carried out by Mr . S . B . Wilson and himself as joint architects , from the original design for which Mr . Pearse obtained the first premium two years ago . "

Afterwards I li ghted upon a letter from Bro . S . B . Wilson , in the FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE for the same Saturday , July 22 nd , wherein he adverts to the statement made in the previous issue , that Mr . Edwin Pearse furnished the " original design " for the building , which , he says , " is incorrect , and calculated to

mislead . I feel called upon to contradict that statement , and deny its accuracy . " Now , Sir , as a student of current Masonic history , aud no way interested in either position , for I am ashamed to acknowledge that I never heard of Mr . Edwin Pearse except through your columns , and certainly never saw him to my knowledge , I ask you ,

how can these discordant statements be reconciled ? Your paper of July 15 gives every honour and credit to Bro . Stephen Barton Wilson for carrying the original design into practical execution , but , with some misgivings , states that Mr . Pearse won the first prize two years ago for the original design ; your paper of August 1 st 1 SG 3 confirms thisas also does

, , , the paragraph quoted from the Illustrated London JVews . Now , in face of all this evidence , and as an entirely disinterested party , except as an advocate of fair play and justice , I beg to ask is Bro . S . B . Wilson justified in writing to you that it is incorrect to state Mr .

Pearse furnished the original design for the building , aud that he feels called upon to contradict such statement , and to deny its accuracy ? and if the words he uses mean anything , he denies that Mr . Pearse won the first prize at the competition . Bro . S . B . Wilson ' s claim to the respect and

esteem of the Craft is so undeniable , and so universally acknowledged , that he can well afford to share some of the credit of the new building in question with Mr . Edwin Pearse , of whom , as I said before , I know nothing personally , aud it is the abrupt tone of the denial which led me to make this inquiry . Your fraternally , July 24 th , 1865 . IGNORAMUS .

Ar01202

TciNG WINES . —Tho practice of icing wines may he truly said to be destructive to every kind except champagne mid other effervescent wines ; ami even these , ltepfc long in ice , are not to be compared to the same wine when brought out of a cold cellar . Pew bouses have cold cellars , and in such cases , in warm weather , cooling becomes necessary ; but ten minutes or a quarter of an bour in the ice is quite sufficient to render it frappeas our French neighbours call it . The practice of

, putting lumps of ice into the wine itself is a barbarous one . The individual must indeed be a Goth who would in this way spoil " Creaming Sillery " or " Pearl of the Rhine , " and should he condemned to bad wine for the rest of his days , since it is evident that to him quality must be a matter of perfect indifference . —Sheen on " Wines and other Fermented Liquors . "

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