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Stevens , P . M . 720 , and he has the best wishes for success of a large number of Masons . The third suggestion I have named is also , it would appear , on the eve of realization , general opinion being favourable to it , and probably the only question which will require discussion and consideration is , whether the

term shall be three , five , or seven years , there being three distinct propositions relative to it . In the Grand Mark Lodge three years is the term adopted , and perhaps wisely , seeing that this is hut a secondary branch of Masonry , not yet very extensively developed . My own view is that it is too short a time

for the Craft Grand Master to hold sway , and that either of the other periods named is preferable . As to my fourth question , no movement seems to be made as yet , though , should the third be adopted , this will probably follow as a natural sequel . It appears to me more important than the thirdbecause the

, members of Grand Lodge must annually vote on the question of a Grand Master for the ensuing year , whereas they have no voice whatever in the appointments to Prov . G . Masterships , which lie entirely with the Grand Master . As an alteration in this

respect will be an interference with the present prerogative of the Grand Master , I think it will be at once admitted that such a limitation in the term of headship of a province should be decided upon before the election of a successor to the present M . W . G . M ., the Earl of Zetland . For a Prov . G . M . three years ' tenure of office is sufficientllong . I can point to

y one province where the Prov . G . M . did for many years , and I presume does still , adopt this term for his Deputy , and the plan worked well . Having , in common with many others , suffered long and continuously from the misrule of an unqualified Prov . G . M ., whose successor has recently been installed ,

after an unpleasant struggle for seven years to obtain a change , I feel very strongly on this point , especially as all inquiry into the circumstances was refused . As the difficulty has occurred in one instance , it may in another , and it therefore behoves us to guard against it when a favourable opportunity , such as the present , offers itself .

Allow me further space for brief remarks on the letters of "A Prov . G . Officer , " and Bro . F . Binckes . In reply to the former , I fear that , if permission were given to read tlie rituals , they would scarcely ever be committed to memory aud rendered orally , and I question whether there would not , in that case , be a want of itnpressiveness . Such is my own ideafrom

, what I have seen in France , where the course recommended by your correspondent is adopted . There are , of course , many other reasons against such a change . I prefer some arrangements , already laid before your readers some time ago , by which competent instructors should be formally sanctioned and recognisedand by

, which also candidates for the chair of a lodge should be tested as to their knowledge of the ritual before election . I have read Bro . Bincke ' s letter with great pleasure , as therein are expressed opinions which coincide much with my own . While admiring the efforts of praiseworthand valued Masonic

many y friends who are seeking truth in their endeavours to unravel the early history of our Order , aud , far from wishing to stifle research , I have been unwilling to take part in the discussion , under a conviction that from * a variety of circumstances there are no data

available , and the more I have read of the investigations of others on this head , the more have I felt that " we are perplexed ; "—would that I could finish the quotation and add " but not in despair . " I-fancy there are many who agree with me in this view . Tours fraternally , H . H .

BE . LIVINGSTONE . TO THE EDITOR OP THE EHEEA'ASONS' MAGAZINE AND 3 IASONIC MIRSOIi . Dear Sir and Brother , —We all wish to hear reliable news of this intrepid African explorer , but , better stillwe desire to see himself . At the meeting of

, the Eoyal Geographical Society lately , Sir Eoderick Murchison read a long letter purporting to be from him ; yet , unless it is his usual style , there are passages in it which cause me to wonder if it can really be from him . Perhaps the reference to Ptolemy may he all rightalsoa little further downthe giving of

, , , the latitude several times without the longitude , yet the style towards the end reminds me somewhat too much of the preface to a begging petition , and has rather much of self-complacency about it surely to be his usual style ; then the words occur , " the defects , unavoidable in the circumstances , you will kindly

excuse . " These defects , I suppose , refer to the writing . Somehow it appears to me that in such a long letter the Doctor might have given us more information than we have got . The above reflections crossed my mind upon reading the letter carefullunder the following circumstances

y , , which show how , upon a very slight foundation , the most exaggerated stories rise and spread , viz .: I met a gentleman lately who asked me if I had heard of that new race of men , quite different from all others , lately discovered by Dr . Livingstone in Africa , who

lived in caves underground so large that rivers run through them into underground seas , and so on . Not having read the Doctor ' s letter at the time , I was asked to do so , especially , observed my friend , as it bears upon a former architectural article of yours which appeared in the Magazine , and regarding which

we differed slightly . The following is the passage in the Doctor ' s letter bearing upon this point -. — " P . S . —Always something new from Africa . A large tribe live in underground houses in Neua . Some excavations are said to be 30 miles long , and have running rills in them . A whole district can

stand a siege in them . The writings therein , I have oeen told by some of the people , are on wings of animals , and not letters . Of course , I should have gone to see them Very dark , well made , and outer .... My eyes slanting wards . " The italics are minewe find it is " rills" not

; , rivers , and there is a good deal of the " it is said " in the matter . However , the description in the " P . S . " is rather more probable than the viva voce description I got . In conclusion , I join the prayer of many thousands for the Doctor ' s welfare , if he be still in fife and thatif such be tlie casemay he be

; , , spared to come back to us in safety to personally recount all his trials and difficulties , his new knowledge and noble achievements . Yours fraternally , W . P . B .

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HOW I SPENT MY FIVE WEEKS' LEAVE. Article 7
MASONIC JOTTINGS.—No. 1. Article 9
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MASONIC MEMS. Article 12
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IRISH CONSTITUTION. Article 16
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MARK MASONRY. Article 17
LITERATURE, SCIENCE, AND FINE ARTS. Article 17
THEATRICAL AND MUSICAL NOTES. Article 18
"EASTWARD HO!" Article 18
CHESHIRE EDUCATIONAL MASONIC INSTITUTION. Article 19
LIST OF LODGE, MEETINGS, &c., FOR WEEK ENDING 4TH DECEMBER, 1869. Article 20
TO CORRESPONDENTS, Article 20
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Correspondence.

Stevens , P . M . 720 , and he has the best wishes for success of a large number of Masons . The third suggestion I have named is also , it would appear , on the eve of realization , general opinion being favourable to it , and probably the only question which will require discussion and consideration is , whether the

term shall be three , five , or seven years , there being three distinct propositions relative to it . In the Grand Mark Lodge three years is the term adopted , and perhaps wisely , seeing that this is hut a secondary branch of Masonry , not yet very extensively developed . My own view is that it is too short a time

for the Craft Grand Master to hold sway , and that either of the other periods named is preferable . As to my fourth question , no movement seems to be made as yet , though , should the third be adopted , this will probably follow as a natural sequel . It appears to me more important than the thirdbecause the

, members of Grand Lodge must annually vote on the question of a Grand Master for the ensuing year , whereas they have no voice whatever in the appointments to Prov . G . Masterships , which lie entirely with the Grand Master . As an alteration in this

respect will be an interference with the present prerogative of the Grand Master , I think it will be at once admitted that such a limitation in the term of headship of a province should be decided upon before the election of a successor to the present M . W . G . M ., the Earl of Zetland . For a Prov . G . M . three years ' tenure of office is sufficientllong . I can point to

y one province where the Prov . G . M . did for many years , and I presume does still , adopt this term for his Deputy , and the plan worked well . Having , in common with many others , suffered long and continuously from the misrule of an unqualified Prov . G . M ., whose successor has recently been installed ,

after an unpleasant struggle for seven years to obtain a change , I feel very strongly on this point , especially as all inquiry into the circumstances was refused . As the difficulty has occurred in one instance , it may in another , and it therefore behoves us to guard against it when a favourable opportunity , such as the present , offers itself .

Allow me further space for brief remarks on the letters of "A Prov . G . Officer , " and Bro . F . Binckes . In reply to the former , I fear that , if permission were given to read tlie rituals , they would scarcely ever be committed to memory aud rendered orally , and I question whether there would not , in that case , be a want of itnpressiveness . Such is my own ideafrom

, what I have seen in France , where the course recommended by your correspondent is adopted . There are , of course , many other reasons against such a change . I prefer some arrangements , already laid before your readers some time ago , by which competent instructors should be formally sanctioned and recognisedand by

, which also candidates for the chair of a lodge should be tested as to their knowledge of the ritual before election . I have read Bro . Bincke ' s letter with great pleasure , as therein are expressed opinions which coincide much with my own . While admiring the efforts of praiseworthand valued Masonic

many y friends who are seeking truth in their endeavours to unravel the early history of our Order , aud , far from wishing to stifle research , I have been unwilling to take part in the discussion , under a conviction that from * a variety of circumstances there are no data

available , and the more I have read of the investigations of others on this head , the more have I felt that " we are perplexed ; "—would that I could finish the quotation and add " but not in despair . " I-fancy there are many who agree with me in this view . Tours fraternally , H . H .

BE . LIVINGSTONE . TO THE EDITOR OP THE EHEEA'ASONS' MAGAZINE AND 3 IASONIC MIRSOIi . Dear Sir and Brother , —We all wish to hear reliable news of this intrepid African explorer , but , better stillwe desire to see himself . At the meeting of

, the Eoyal Geographical Society lately , Sir Eoderick Murchison read a long letter purporting to be from him ; yet , unless it is his usual style , there are passages in it which cause me to wonder if it can really be from him . Perhaps the reference to Ptolemy may he all rightalsoa little further downthe giving of

, , , the latitude several times without the longitude , yet the style towards the end reminds me somewhat too much of the preface to a begging petition , and has rather much of self-complacency about it surely to be his usual style ; then the words occur , " the defects , unavoidable in the circumstances , you will kindly

excuse . " These defects , I suppose , refer to the writing . Somehow it appears to me that in such a long letter the Doctor might have given us more information than we have got . The above reflections crossed my mind upon reading the letter carefullunder the following circumstances

y , , which show how , upon a very slight foundation , the most exaggerated stories rise and spread , viz .: I met a gentleman lately who asked me if I had heard of that new race of men , quite different from all others , lately discovered by Dr . Livingstone in Africa , who

lived in caves underground so large that rivers run through them into underground seas , and so on . Not having read the Doctor ' s letter at the time , I was asked to do so , especially , observed my friend , as it bears upon a former architectural article of yours which appeared in the Magazine , and regarding which

we differed slightly . The following is the passage in the Doctor ' s letter bearing upon this point -. — " P . S . —Always something new from Africa . A large tribe live in underground houses in Neua . Some excavations are said to be 30 miles long , and have running rills in them . A whole district can

stand a siege in them . The writings therein , I have oeen told by some of the people , are on wings of animals , and not letters . Of course , I should have gone to see them Very dark , well made , and outer .... My eyes slanting wards . " The italics are minewe find it is " rills" not

; , rivers , and there is a good deal of the " it is said " in the matter . However , the description in the " P . S . " is rather more probable than the viva voce description I got . In conclusion , I join the prayer of many thousands for the Doctor ' s welfare , if he be still in fife and thatif such be tlie casemay he be

; , , spared to come back to us in safety to personally recount all his trials and difficulties , his new knowledge and noble achievements . Yours fraternally , W . P . B .

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