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Chapter Xiv.

the public , pitied them , aud applauded those efforts ; but above them , like a hideous incubus , paralysing any attempts to rescue his victims , stood the King . Public opinion , and even the Commissions , might have desired that the accused and accusers should be brought face to face , but

the King forbade it . He knw too well that at the sight of that heroic band of defenders , the accusers would have trembled , and the accusations have broken clown . When we consider the profound subtlety of Phillip ' s character , the boldness and success of his schemes , the unscrupulous

audacity of his ministers , we cannot but pity the fate of the Templars . Their very innocence obliged the King ' s agents to resort to extraordinary charges and violent measures , and the depth of iniquity of the mind which schemed the fearful charges , ranks with the most diabolic of the human race . We shudder at the hate and power of the King ; we shudder at the courage of his victims .

• On the eve of Palm Sunday , the 11 th April , the Commissioners assembled in the Episcopal Hall , for the examination of witnesses against the Order . Boulogne and the other deputies were present . The witnesses were of two classes , Templars and strangers ; the latter pretending to

know of the disorders which were said to exist in the Order . The Templars were under the care of two of the King ' s most abject creatures—the Provost of Poictiers and John de Jainville . It was permitted them to answer either for or against the Order ; but they had been informed ,

before they appeared in the presence of the Commissioners , that they were expected to testify against it . Among the members of the Order were John de Seminiac , of the diocese of Sens , and John de Falege , both Templar priests . They appeared in secular habit , indicating that they were witnesses against the Order . i . John de Javeni and John de

Chevreceeur , of the diocese of Beauvais , wore the habit and mantle of the Order ; John de Taillefer , Hugo deBury , of the diocese of Langres , Geoffrey Thanton , of Tours , and John Langlois , of London , had the beard , as won by the Knights . They wore also the habit , and carried over their arms

the cloaks of the Order , which , on entering the hall , they threw at the feet of the Commissioners , saying , that they did not desire to wear them any longer . The Commissioners , however , commanded them to take up the cloaks , saying , that it was not to them they should deliver them up ;

but when they left their presence , they might do with them what they pleased . There came also the following Knights : —John de Bolere , of the diocese of Sens ; John de Catoloii , Arnold de Marnay , Robert de Layme , aud John de Valtrebran , all of the diocese of Langres ;

Henry de Dandes , of Laon ; Walter de Belne , ¦ of Autun ; John d'Eneze , of Beauvais ; William de Saint-Suplet , of Meaux ; Peter de

Chapter Xiv.

Manton and Gerard de Passage of Paris . They all wore the beard of the Knights , except Passage ; but none of them had the cloak . Besides these Templars , four strangers presented themselves , Radolph de Prele , jurisconsult of London ; Guichar de Moezac and John de Vassege , military officers ;

and Nicolas Simon , Esquire . These four were examined ; but , although their evidence has not come down entire to us , there can be little doubt that it was to the disadvantage of the Order . However , as far as we can . judge from what is extant , exceptingthe evidence of De PrGle , which to have contained

some heresay information concerning certain secret statutes , and without doubt criminal , which the Knight Gervaise de Beauvaise had told him about five years before , it could not have materially hurt the cause of the Order . Other evidence , however , did it damage ; for a great number of

Templars , whom the Commissioners examined declared themselves guilty . They had been interrogated at the Councils of Paris aud Rheims , had been there reconciled to the Church , declaring themselves no longer members of the Temple . Boulogne denied that their evidence was worthy

of credence , as , by their own showing , they had undergone the torture , ancl which the fear of being again subjected to made them persist in their falsehood .

Masonic Notes And Queries.

MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES .

. " MASONIC DISCIPLINE , ' 13 V CRUX . I think Masons will do well to peruse and consider the many well-written articles on this subject by Crux . A new field of inquiry is opened up as to the selection and appointment of officers , and I hope to be able shortly to give my reasons for agreeing

generally with several of the suggestions made by the writer , which would tend bo advance pure Ereemasonry . —W . J . HUGHAN . BRO . HYDE CLARKE ON THE " lIIOIIER DEOREES ' ' ANO FREEMASONRY . In carefully perusing and re-perusing the excellent

inaugural address to the Masonic Ai-chteological Institute , I have been particularly struck with Bro . Clarke ' s estimate of degrees beyond Craft Masonry . i For one so high as lie is in the " Ancient aud Accepted Rite " to state that " The several degrees and orders other than those of the simple Craft degrees neither

explain their own relations nor those of the Craftdegrees , and rather augment the perplexities of the inquirer and feed his dissatisfaction , '' must really tend to weaken the authority ancl influence of that " Rite " as also of the Chivalric Masonic Orders . I certainly think the present multiplicity of degrees ,

and the paucity of genuine Masonic research , augurs ill for the progress of tho Craft ; aud unless Masons worthy of the name really look into our position , investigate our failings , and remedy our defects , we shall soon become nominal Masons , composed of jewels , badges , and grand aprons , but really wanting in every other respect .

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MYSTICS AND MYSTICISM. No. II. Article 1
MASONIC PERSECUTION.—III. Article 2
THE KNIGHTS TEMPLARS. Article 2
CHAPTER XIV. Article 4
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 7
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 10
THE ORDERS OF THE RED CROSS OF ROME AND THE HOLY SEPULCHRE. Article 10
BROS. HAYE AND WHITE. Article 11
MASONIC IMPOSTORS. Article 11
Untitled Article 12
MASONIC MEMS. Article 12
GRAND LODGE OF ENGLAND. Article 12
METROPOLITAN. Article 13
PROVINCIAL. Article 15
SCOTLAND. Article 16
ISLE OF MAN. Article 16
ROYAL ARCH. Article 16
MARK MASONRY. Article 17
KNIGHTS TEMPLAR. Article 17
MASONIC FESTIVITIES. Article 18
GRIMSBY FULL DRESS MASONIC BALL. Article 18
DUBLIN MASONIC ORPHAN BOYS' SCHOOL. Article 19
MASONIC LIFEBOAT FUND. Article 19
Poetry. Article 19
MEETINGS OF THE LEARNED SOCIETIES. Article 19
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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Chapter Xiv.

the public , pitied them , aud applauded those efforts ; but above them , like a hideous incubus , paralysing any attempts to rescue his victims , stood the King . Public opinion , and even the Commissions , might have desired that the accused and accusers should be brought face to face , but

the King forbade it . He knw too well that at the sight of that heroic band of defenders , the accusers would have trembled , and the accusations have broken clown . When we consider the profound subtlety of Phillip ' s character , the boldness and success of his schemes , the unscrupulous

audacity of his ministers , we cannot but pity the fate of the Templars . Their very innocence obliged the King ' s agents to resort to extraordinary charges and violent measures , and the depth of iniquity of the mind which schemed the fearful charges , ranks with the most diabolic of the human race . We shudder at the hate and power of the King ; we shudder at the courage of his victims .

• On the eve of Palm Sunday , the 11 th April , the Commissioners assembled in the Episcopal Hall , for the examination of witnesses against the Order . Boulogne and the other deputies were present . The witnesses were of two classes , Templars and strangers ; the latter pretending to

know of the disorders which were said to exist in the Order . The Templars were under the care of two of the King ' s most abject creatures—the Provost of Poictiers and John de Jainville . It was permitted them to answer either for or against the Order ; but they had been informed ,

before they appeared in the presence of the Commissioners , that they were expected to testify against it . Among the members of the Order were John de Seminiac , of the diocese of Sens , and John de Falege , both Templar priests . They appeared in secular habit , indicating that they were witnesses against the Order . i . John de Javeni and John de

Chevreceeur , of the diocese of Beauvais , wore the habit and mantle of the Order ; John de Taillefer , Hugo deBury , of the diocese of Langres , Geoffrey Thanton , of Tours , and John Langlois , of London , had the beard , as won by the Knights . They wore also the habit , and carried over their arms

the cloaks of the Order , which , on entering the hall , they threw at the feet of the Commissioners , saying , that they did not desire to wear them any longer . The Commissioners , however , commanded them to take up the cloaks , saying , that it was not to them they should deliver them up ;

but when they left their presence , they might do with them what they pleased . There came also the following Knights : —John de Bolere , of the diocese of Sens ; John de Catoloii , Arnold de Marnay , Robert de Layme , aud John de Valtrebran , all of the diocese of Langres ;

Henry de Dandes , of Laon ; Walter de Belne , ¦ of Autun ; John d'Eneze , of Beauvais ; William de Saint-Suplet , of Meaux ; Peter de

Chapter Xiv.

Manton and Gerard de Passage of Paris . They all wore the beard of the Knights , except Passage ; but none of them had the cloak . Besides these Templars , four strangers presented themselves , Radolph de Prele , jurisconsult of London ; Guichar de Moezac and John de Vassege , military officers ;

and Nicolas Simon , Esquire . These four were examined ; but , although their evidence has not come down entire to us , there can be little doubt that it was to the disadvantage of the Order . However , as far as we can . judge from what is extant , exceptingthe evidence of De PrGle , which to have contained

some heresay information concerning certain secret statutes , and without doubt criminal , which the Knight Gervaise de Beauvaise had told him about five years before , it could not have materially hurt the cause of the Order . Other evidence , however , did it damage ; for a great number of

Templars , whom the Commissioners examined declared themselves guilty . They had been interrogated at the Councils of Paris aud Rheims , had been there reconciled to the Church , declaring themselves no longer members of the Temple . Boulogne denied that their evidence was worthy

of credence , as , by their own showing , they had undergone the torture , ancl which the fear of being again subjected to made them persist in their falsehood .

Masonic Notes And Queries.

MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES .

. " MASONIC DISCIPLINE , ' 13 V CRUX . I think Masons will do well to peruse and consider the many well-written articles on this subject by Crux . A new field of inquiry is opened up as to the selection and appointment of officers , and I hope to be able shortly to give my reasons for agreeing

generally with several of the suggestions made by the writer , which would tend bo advance pure Ereemasonry . —W . J . HUGHAN . BRO . HYDE CLARKE ON THE " lIIOIIER DEOREES ' ' ANO FREEMASONRY . In carefully perusing and re-perusing the excellent

inaugural address to the Masonic Ai-chteological Institute , I have been particularly struck with Bro . Clarke ' s estimate of degrees beyond Craft Masonry . i For one so high as lie is in the " Ancient aud Accepted Rite " to state that " The several degrees and orders other than those of the simple Craft degrees neither

explain their own relations nor those of the Craftdegrees , and rather augment the perplexities of the inquirer and feed his dissatisfaction , '' must really tend to weaken the authority ancl influence of that " Rite " as also of the Chivalric Masonic Orders . I certainly think the present multiplicity of degrees ,

and the paucity of genuine Masonic research , augurs ill for the progress of tho Craft ; aud unless Masons worthy of the name really look into our position , investigate our failings , and remedy our defects , we shall soon become nominal Masons , composed of jewels , badges , and grand aprons , but really wanting in every other respect .

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