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Masonic Notes And Queries.

of summons , and hear scot and lot in all manner of reasonable contributions of and to this fellowship . Tou shall be ready at all times to he at the quarterdays and every other assembly , matter , or causes that you shall be warned or called into for the affairs of this fellowship , unless you shall have lawful and

reasonable excuse in that behalf . " It is to be observed that the forms , if searched , will afford many points of observation . 5 . The Liveryman and Master takes an oath or obligation . 6 . The "Worshi p ful Master takes an oath or

obligation . 7 . Elections are held yearly . S . Contributions are payable quarterly . 9 . The presiding officer is the Worshipful Master . 10 . The "Worshi p ful Master is installed . 11 . The W . Master is installed by his predecessor .

12 . The "W . Master must have served as a "Warden . 13 . The "Wardens are two in number , sometimes three . The " Wardens have various names—Senior , Junior , Prime , Key , or Renter Warden . 14 . "Where there are three "Wardens the Senior commonly acts as Master , there being no Master . 15 . The Wardens preside in the absence of the W . M .

16 . The Wardens with the W . M . have the custod y and charge of the properties . 17 . The Wardens are installed . 18 . The W . M . uses a hammer . 19 . The W . M . is seated in a chair . 20 . There is a clerk or Secretary , who is not

necessarily in the category of the presiding officers . 21 . There is an Upper Beadle or I . G . 22 . There is an Outer Beadle or O . G . I consider these officers to have been formerly armed with ¦ swords . 23 . There is an office of Steward . This office is

sometimes held by the youngest liveryman or Master . There was a practice of appointing several Stewards each year . 24 The W . Master and Wardens in some guilds wear chains . 25 . Those who have passed the office of W . Master

commonly possessed privileges , including that of precedence . ' 26 . In some guilds there is a poor-bos . 27 . The assembly to which the W . M . is responsible is that ofthe F . C . in some cases , and of the M . M . in others .

28 . I consider the M . M . to represent the Liveryman , who must be a master tradesman , but the Freeman may be a journeyman . The Liveryman is a F . C . appointed to preside over others . I consider the W . M . to represent the W . M . 1 " am by no means assured of the alleged noA'elty of the M . M . degree ,

and the confusion in the accounts Ave have I conceive to be partly due to the distinction I have now pointed out , and partly to the difference between the London guilds having a library and the country guilds having no library . A careful investigation of the country guilds will

explain many points of Craft administration not yet illustrated . —HYDE CLAEKE . VISITORS AND CERTIFICATES . Will any of our learned brethren clearly define

Masonic Notes And Queries.

what , in the case of a brother visiting a lodc-e without a certificate , and where there is no one competent to vouch for him , would constitute proper vouchers of his having been initiated in a regular lodge ? If it may be taken to mean the ability shown by the visitor in his examinationhoAv do they explain the

, following : — "Tou promise that no A'isitor shall be received into your lodge without due examination , and producing proper vouchers of his having been initiated in a regular lodge . "—W . S . L .

THE EIGHTS OP VISITOES . My friend Bro . Hughan appears not to understand the meaning ofthe words " general Masonic business . " The reading of minutes is particular business , and I endorse the opinion given by Bro . Haye that no brother can claim a right of visitation during such

reading . Exceptional cases must never he the test of great questions , and the broad basis of right or no right of visitation during the reading of the minutes is what the Craft have to do Avith $ ie practice , and even the law of Scotland forbids any right of visitation during the reading of minutes . Of course a

brother of such distinguished abilities as Bro . Hopkins being refused admittance is no insult to him , although it is questionable if the Guernsey Lodge have honoured themselves by such a step . But even the special case of treason to the Grand Lodge of England cannot warrant any brother in demanding

entrance while the subject is under discussion . By a law of the Grand Lodge of Scotland , any member thereof can have it cleared of visiting brethren without discussion . Our sympathy for Dr . Hopkins must not blind us to the fact that the Guernsey Lodge exercised a just and proper right of exclusion . — J . H . M . BAIENSEATHEE .

Correspondence.

CORRESPONDENCE .

The Editor is not responsible for the opinions expressed by Correspondents . THE FORTHCOMING VISIT OF BELGIANS TO WIMBLEDON . TO THE EDITOB OF THE FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE AST ) MASONIC SIIEKOE . DEAE SIR AND BROTHER—Some weeks since I

, addressed you on the subject of giving such of the Belgian visitors Avho are Masons a cordial and befitting welcome during their stay at Wimbledon , as a return for the truly fraternal greeting our English Masons received at their hands in October last . On all sides it was admitted that never were the principles

of Freemasonry more truly exemplified than on that occasion , and our Belgie friends , in the exuberance of their feelings , only found a difficulty hoAv sufficientl y to manifest them towards those whom they delighted to honour . As was truly said by Lord Mayor Phillips , Avhether within the portals of the Masonic

lodge or outside it , but one universal brotherhood of goodAvill reigned towards them amongst all classes of the Belgian people and when I last addressed you upon this subject I was in hopes that ere this some Masonic body would have taken the initiative to devise measures for receiving the Belian Freemasons

g with all the honours they deserve , and in a manner to do credit to the Craft to Avhich it is our common privilege and pride to belong . I have heard that the members of the Fitzroy Lodge , held under the

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HISTORY OF FREEMASONRY IN CORNWALL. Article 1
THE NEMESIS: A TALE OF THE DAYS OF TRAJAN. Article 3
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 5
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 7
GRAND CONCLAVE. Article 8
RIGHTS OF VISITORS. Article 9
THE RIGHTS OF .'VISITORS. Article 9
MASONIC MEM. Article 10
ROYAL MASONIC BENEVOLENT INSTITUTIEN FOR AGED FREEMASONS AND THEIR WIDOWS. Article 10
METROPOLITAN. Article 11
PROVINCIAL. Article 13
IRELAND. Article 17
TURKEY. Article 18
MEETINGS OF THE SCIENTIFIC AND LEARNED SOCIETIES FOR THE WEEK ENDING JUNE. Article 18
THE WEEK. Article 19
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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Masonic Notes And Queries.

of summons , and hear scot and lot in all manner of reasonable contributions of and to this fellowship . Tou shall be ready at all times to he at the quarterdays and every other assembly , matter , or causes that you shall be warned or called into for the affairs of this fellowship , unless you shall have lawful and

reasonable excuse in that behalf . " It is to be observed that the forms , if searched , will afford many points of observation . 5 . The Liveryman and Master takes an oath or obligation . 6 . The "Worshi p ful Master takes an oath or

obligation . 7 . Elections are held yearly . S . Contributions are payable quarterly . 9 . The presiding officer is the Worshipful Master . 10 . The "Worshi p ful Master is installed . 11 . The W . Master is installed by his predecessor .

12 . The "W . Master must have served as a "Warden . 13 . The "Wardens are two in number , sometimes three . The " Wardens have various names—Senior , Junior , Prime , Key , or Renter Warden . 14 . "Where there are three "Wardens the Senior commonly acts as Master , there being no Master . 15 . The Wardens preside in the absence of the W . M .

16 . The Wardens with the W . M . have the custod y and charge of the properties . 17 . The Wardens are installed . 18 . The W . M . uses a hammer . 19 . The W . M . is seated in a chair . 20 . There is a clerk or Secretary , who is not

necessarily in the category of the presiding officers . 21 . There is an Upper Beadle or I . G . 22 . There is an Outer Beadle or O . G . I consider these officers to have been formerly armed with ¦ swords . 23 . There is an office of Steward . This office is

sometimes held by the youngest liveryman or Master . There was a practice of appointing several Stewards each year . 24 The W . Master and Wardens in some guilds wear chains . 25 . Those who have passed the office of W . Master

commonly possessed privileges , including that of precedence . ' 26 . In some guilds there is a poor-bos . 27 . The assembly to which the W . M . is responsible is that ofthe F . C . in some cases , and of the M . M . in others .

28 . I consider the M . M . to represent the Liveryman , who must be a master tradesman , but the Freeman may be a journeyman . The Liveryman is a F . C . appointed to preside over others . I consider the W . M . to represent the W . M . 1 " am by no means assured of the alleged noA'elty of the M . M . degree ,

and the confusion in the accounts Ave have I conceive to be partly due to the distinction I have now pointed out , and partly to the difference between the London guilds having a library and the country guilds having no library . A careful investigation of the country guilds will

explain many points of Craft administration not yet illustrated . —HYDE CLAEKE . VISITORS AND CERTIFICATES . Will any of our learned brethren clearly define

Masonic Notes And Queries.

what , in the case of a brother visiting a lodc-e without a certificate , and where there is no one competent to vouch for him , would constitute proper vouchers of his having been initiated in a regular lodge ? If it may be taken to mean the ability shown by the visitor in his examinationhoAv do they explain the

, following : — "Tou promise that no A'isitor shall be received into your lodge without due examination , and producing proper vouchers of his having been initiated in a regular lodge . "—W . S . L .

THE EIGHTS OP VISITOES . My friend Bro . Hughan appears not to understand the meaning ofthe words " general Masonic business . " The reading of minutes is particular business , and I endorse the opinion given by Bro . Haye that no brother can claim a right of visitation during such

reading . Exceptional cases must never he the test of great questions , and the broad basis of right or no right of visitation during the reading of the minutes is what the Craft have to do Avith $ ie practice , and even the law of Scotland forbids any right of visitation during the reading of minutes . Of course a

brother of such distinguished abilities as Bro . Hopkins being refused admittance is no insult to him , although it is questionable if the Guernsey Lodge have honoured themselves by such a step . But even the special case of treason to the Grand Lodge of England cannot warrant any brother in demanding

entrance while the subject is under discussion . By a law of the Grand Lodge of Scotland , any member thereof can have it cleared of visiting brethren without discussion . Our sympathy for Dr . Hopkins must not blind us to the fact that the Guernsey Lodge exercised a just and proper right of exclusion . — J . H . M . BAIENSEATHEE .

Correspondence.

CORRESPONDENCE .

The Editor is not responsible for the opinions expressed by Correspondents . THE FORTHCOMING VISIT OF BELGIANS TO WIMBLEDON . TO THE EDITOB OF THE FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE AST ) MASONIC SIIEKOE . DEAE SIR AND BROTHER—Some weeks since I

, addressed you on the subject of giving such of the Belgian visitors Avho are Masons a cordial and befitting welcome during their stay at Wimbledon , as a return for the truly fraternal greeting our English Masons received at their hands in October last . On all sides it was admitted that never were the principles

of Freemasonry more truly exemplified than on that occasion , and our Belgie friends , in the exuberance of their feelings , only found a difficulty hoAv sufficientl y to manifest them towards those whom they delighted to honour . As was truly said by Lord Mayor Phillips , Avhether within the portals of the Masonic

lodge or outside it , but one universal brotherhood of goodAvill reigned towards them amongst all classes of the Belgian people and when I last addressed you upon this subject I was in hopes that ere this some Masonic body would have taken the initiative to devise measures for receiving the Belian Freemasons

g with all the honours they deserve , and in a manner to do credit to the Craft to Avhich it is our common privilege and pride to belong . I have heard that the members of the Fitzroy Lodge , held under the

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