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Freemasonry—Past And Present.

until 1702 , as most modern writers are so anxious to persuade ns that it did , we should have been in possession of such lodge minutes as they yet have in Scotland , and the proof of its having passed

into a private association of a different character , is confirmed by such documents as we have , as well as the absence of such as we ought to have had . "

The same accomplished writer also observes that it is very unlikely that the Master Mason ' s degree is a fabrication of 1717 , and says that " there is nothing whatever to saddle such a gross imposition upon either the "Ancients" or

" Moderns " beyond the fact that mention of it has not been found in the operative lodges of Scotland , and this I consider goes for very little indeed . " We think the latter statement " goes for little indeed / 5 but certainly not the fact that the

third degree is never mentioned in the operative records of ( Scotland , a country which possesses the best collection of old Masonic Minute Boolcs known , and besides which the evidence upon which the third degree is proved to be modem , ( as a degree ) is far from being confined to that Masonic country .

We are to be privileged with reading some of the evidences a " Masonic Student" has been collecting respecting the antiquity of our Order . These will doubtless be both valuable and interesting , as few Masons are better qualified to treat

the subject , and as we may reasonably expect Bro . Hyde Clarke will also continue his important observations on the "English Guilds / 5 and on Masonry generally , we shall think with him that though " there is much that is now dark and

mysterious to be lighted up ; yet it is not unattainable in the present progress of research . ' We shall also hope that the future of the " Masonic Archasological Institute" will chronicle important advantages in that respect . At least we have the

promise of several articles or papers which augurs well for the approaching Masonic season . It is pleasant also to witness the originator of the "Notes and Queries ' department , ( viz ., Bro . Hyde Clarke ) , again contributing to that interesting and useful feature in the MAGAZINE .

Having paved our way for a few words on the History of Freemasonry , we purpose as soon as we are able to refer to the three following subjects respectively , and will promise to maintain only what has evidence to support it , condemn what is opposed to facts , and consider what appears pro-

Freemasonry—Past And Present.

bable , although not established , respecting the origin of our Order . We anticipate our thoughts will arrange themselves as follows : — 1 . Operative and Speculative Freemasonry

before A . D . 1716 . 2 . The Eevival of Freemasonry . 3 . Masonic Historians and the Facts of Freemasonry . As each division will be completed in a single

number of the FEEEHASONS 5 MAGAZINE , we shall be excused doing more than to give bare outlines of the evidences accumulated on each subject , leaving it to brethren who are more iavc-Tirabry circnmstanced than ourselves to continue the interesting investigation .

An Initiation In Paris.

AN INITIATION IN PARIS .

By LL W . L . L Hotel du Grand Orient de France is situated in the Rue Cadet ; it is a large rambling place , but architecturally far inferior to our new Hall in Great Queen-street . Many lodges meet there .

In April last I had the pleasure of visiting " Les Admirateurs de TUnivers " ( No . 4 ) , and was fortunate enough to " assist 55 at the reception of four profanes ; and think a short account of the ceremony may interest some of the readers of the

MAGAZINE . At the appointed time for the reception of visitors ( after the minutes had been read ) , I was admitted and escorted to a seat on the dais as a

S . P . R . C , The room itself was about the same size as those used by private lodges in Great Queen-street , and equally devoid of decoration . The Venerable was seated in tho east , facing the door , on either side of which was a pillar—one

bearing the letter B ., the other J . In front of these sat the Surveillants ( wardens ) . The other officers were an Orator , Secretary , Treasurer , Hospitaller , Experts ( deacons ) ,, Master of the Ceremonies , and Inner Guard . The

Apprentices and Compagnons only wore aprons , and these were of an identical pattern , of plain white leather , semi-circular , and very small . The Masters wore a broad blue sash , reversible ; the other side being black , and bearing emblems peculiar to the

degree . The officers wore collars and jewels only , and every one held a drawn sword . The greater part of the ritual was read by the Venerable .

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FREEMASONRY—PAST AND PRESENT. Article 1
AN INITIATION IN PARIS. Article 2
OLD FREEMASONRY BEFORE GRAND LODGE. Article 3
MASONIC DISCIPLINE AND THE RITUAL.—XXII. Article 5
LODGE MINUTES, ETC.—No. 8. Article 6
HISTORY OF VOTING BY BALLOT. Article 7
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 9
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 11
MASONIC SERMON. Article 11
ARCHIVES OF THE GRAND LODGE OF HOLLAND. Article 11
Untitled Article 12
MASONIC MEMS. Article 12
ROYAL MASONIC INSTITUTION FOR BOYS. Article 12
METROPOLITAN. Article 12
PROVINCIAL. Article 15
CHANNEL ISLANDS. Article 17
SCOTLAND. Article 17
IRELAND. Article 17
ROYAL ARCH. Article 17
MARK MASONRY. Article 18
REVIEWS. Article 18
PRESENTATION TO BRO. COLLEY, HOUSE SURGEON OF THE YARMOUTH HOSPITAL. Article 19
LIST OF LODGE, &c., MEETINGS FOR WEEK ENDING 30TH OCTOBER, 1869. Article 20
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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Freemasonry—Past And Present.

until 1702 , as most modern writers are so anxious to persuade ns that it did , we should have been in possession of such lodge minutes as they yet have in Scotland , and the proof of its having passed

into a private association of a different character , is confirmed by such documents as we have , as well as the absence of such as we ought to have had . "

The same accomplished writer also observes that it is very unlikely that the Master Mason ' s degree is a fabrication of 1717 , and says that " there is nothing whatever to saddle such a gross imposition upon either the "Ancients" or

" Moderns " beyond the fact that mention of it has not been found in the operative lodges of Scotland , and this I consider goes for very little indeed . " We think the latter statement " goes for little indeed / 5 but certainly not the fact that the

third degree is never mentioned in the operative records of ( Scotland , a country which possesses the best collection of old Masonic Minute Boolcs known , and besides which the evidence upon which the third degree is proved to be modem , ( as a degree ) is far from being confined to that Masonic country .

We are to be privileged with reading some of the evidences a " Masonic Student" has been collecting respecting the antiquity of our Order . These will doubtless be both valuable and interesting , as few Masons are better qualified to treat

the subject , and as we may reasonably expect Bro . Hyde Clarke will also continue his important observations on the "English Guilds / 5 and on Masonry generally , we shall think with him that though " there is much that is now dark and

mysterious to be lighted up ; yet it is not unattainable in the present progress of research . ' We shall also hope that the future of the " Masonic Archasological Institute" will chronicle important advantages in that respect . At least we have the

promise of several articles or papers which augurs well for the approaching Masonic season . It is pleasant also to witness the originator of the "Notes and Queries ' department , ( viz ., Bro . Hyde Clarke ) , again contributing to that interesting and useful feature in the MAGAZINE .

Having paved our way for a few words on the History of Freemasonry , we purpose as soon as we are able to refer to the three following subjects respectively , and will promise to maintain only what has evidence to support it , condemn what is opposed to facts , and consider what appears pro-

Freemasonry—Past And Present.

bable , although not established , respecting the origin of our Order . We anticipate our thoughts will arrange themselves as follows : — 1 . Operative and Speculative Freemasonry

before A . D . 1716 . 2 . The Eevival of Freemasonry . 3 . Masonic Historians and the Facts of Freemasonry . As each division will be completed in a single

number of the FEEEHASONS 5 MAGAZINE , we shall be excused doing more than to give bare outlines of the evidences accumulated on each subject , leaving it to brethren who are more iavc-Tirabry circnmstanced than ourselves to continue the interesting investigation .

An Initiation In Paris.

AN INITIATION IN PARIS .

By LL W . L . L Hotel du Grand Orient de France is situated in the Rue Cadet ; it is a large rambling place , but architecturally far inferior to our new Hall in Great Queen-street . Many lodges meet there .

In April last I had the pleasure of visiting " Les Admirateurs de TUnivers " ( No . 4 ) , and was fortunate enough to " assist 55 at the reception of four profanes ; and think a short account of the ceremony may interest some of the readers of the

MAGAZINE . At the appointed time for the reception of visitors ( after the minutes had been read ) , I was admitted and escorted to a seat on the dais as a

S . P . R . C , The room itself was about the same size as those used by private lodges in Great Queen-street , and equally devoid of decoration . The Venerable was seated in tho east , facing the door , on either side of which was a pillar—one

bearing the letter B ., the other J . In front of these sat the Surveillants ( wardens ) . The other officers were an Orator , Secretary , Treasurer , Hospitaller , Experts ( deacons ) ,, Master of the Ceremonies , and Inner Guard . The

Apprentices and Compagnons only wore aprons , and these were of an identical pattern , of plain white leather , semi-circular , and very small . The Masters wore a broad blue sash , reversible ; the other side being black , and bearing emblems peculiar to the

degree . The officers wore collars and jewels only , and every one held a drawn sword . The greater part of the ritual was read by the Venerable .

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