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The Mark Degree In England.

THE MARK DEGREE IN ENGLAND .

{ Continued from page 58 ) . This Committee met twice ; but before its second meeting the Bon Accord Grand Lodge met on the 16 th June , and passed resolutions to this effect : —That any body of Freemasons who can prove that they have met ; and worked as a Mark Lodge before the Quartetly Communication of the Craft Grand LodgeJune , 1856 , shall

, have a right to unite with Lodges under this constitution , without number , and rank next under the Bon Accord Lodge . Also , Lodges working in England under a warrant granted by a Foreign Grand Lodge , shall have a right to form union with the Lodges under this constitution , taking rank according to the date of their respective

charters . Thus , I think , virtually withdrawing from the Committee which at its second meeting passed no resolutions , and came to a premature close . At this time , I believe , there were no Lodges under the jurisdiction of the English Grand Lodge of Mark Masters but the Bon Accord Lodge . And shortly after this Lord Leigh sent

a circular , inviting Lodges to place themselves under the authority of the Grand Lodge of England , on the presumed authority of a Report of a committee to enquire into the subject , which report never was submitted to the committee at all . To this meeting which I am speaking of , Bro . Warren and some other Brethren , members of tho Committeehad never been summoned :

, and ifc was very irregular . Ifc never received sanction , none of the Scotch Lodges ever acknowledged its authority , and up to this time none of the Scotch Lodges had joined the English Grand Mark Lodge ; but some time after this ( on the 18 th of November , 1857 ) there was an irregular procedure on the part of Bro . Gaylor , Scribe E . of Scotland . He issued two Grand

Chapter certificates , and very soon after that the English Mark Lodges went over and joined the English Grand Lodge of Mark Masters , which at that time represented sixteen Lodges . In April , 1858 , there was another Conference . A Committee was then proposed , and what they suggested was that the Scotch Lodges should not join the English Lodges ,

but that they should furm a new Grand Lodge altogether ; and since that time , September , 1858 , I have not had any communication whatever with respect , to the English Grand Mark Lodge . Bro . Binckes : I think you are not quite right as to one or two little matters . I understood myself that the Bon Accord Lodgo in England was the first Mark Lodge

which derived its warrant from a Subordinate Chapter , in Aberdeen , and that is one reason why I refused to join it- One complaint was , that three or four Brethren who had made enquiries as to the Mark Degree , were told lo apply to the Bon Accord R . A . Chapter in Aberdeen , who would give a warrant , and that they applied for a warrant .

Bro . Mackersy .- There appears to be here a confusion of dates , the proceeding of Bro . Gaylor . to which Bro . Binckes refers , had nothing whatever to do with the Bon Accord Lodge . It was connected with a Lodgo called the Old Kent ; it was an act done by the Secretary without any authority , and it was entirely repudiated by the Grand Chapter of Scotland . It appears that

some English Brethren were affiliated in absence in a Scotch Chapter through Bro . Gaylor ' s private act in 1857 , and they applied for a Mark AVarrant to work a Lodge in London to be called the Old Kent . Our Grand Chapter knew nothing of these facts , and granted the warrant , but the facts having been disclosed at the very next meeting of the Grand Chapter , the Brethren were struck off the roll ancl the warrant re-called . I do not think the warrant Avas even delivered ; but , afc any

rate ifc was ordered to be cancelled , and the Petitioners for ib were ordered to be struck off the roll of Scotch Royal Arch Masons . Bro . Binckes : Had I known this subject would have been brought ; forward , I would have come prepared with the documents which were necessary to show the real state of the case . The General Meeting was held

almost immediately after the non-confirmation of the Minutes by the Grand Craft ; Lodge in June , 1856 , and ifc was a meeting of the . Bon Accord , the Northumberland and Berwick , the Old Cumber-land ( Bath ) , and the Kent Lodges , which joined in the formation of the new Grand Lodge . Bro . Mackersy : Bro . Entwisle maintains that ; the Bon

Accord Lodge called itself a Grand Lodge , and started without any authority except his own , and thafc _ these Lodges afterwards joined ifc . You say they all jointly and severally formed a Grand Lodge , and invited others to join it . Bro . Binckes : The words of the Report are : — " Other Mark Master Masons who had taken the Degree in

various old ( time immemorial ) English Lodges , together with the members of the Bon Accord Lodge , gladly welcoming the increasing appreciation of the Mark Degree , bufc not approving tbe attempt to introduce a foreign Supreme Masonic Authority into England , resolved to constitute a Grand Lodge with jurisdiction

over the Mark Degree in this country and its dependencies , in the establishment of which they at once received the adherence of the following Lodges : " —those , viz . — as above , and others . Bro . Mackersy : Which is very much like what ; Bro . Entwisle says . Bro . Entwisle : In the establishment of your Grand

Lodge you did not consult with all the Mark Lodges in the country . Bro . Bincks : I do not contend that we did consult with all , bufc with a largo number . Bro . Entwisle : Where was the authority for your meeting and forming a Grand Lodge after a few months of your first meeting .

Bro . Binckes : In conjunction with the members of other Lodges we had a right to do so . Bro . Mackersy : Bro . Entwisle says that first of all the Bon Accord declared itself a Grand Lodge and gob the adhesion of these others afterwards . Bro . Binckes : The Report quoted from was drawn from written documents in our possession and does nob

bear out that statement . In 1857 the Grand Lodge under Lord Leigh , being then a Grand Lodge , as we contend , did put itself in communication with all tho jurisdictions wherever they could be found throughout the kingdom , and four Scotch Lodges—No . 1 , St . Mark ' s ; No . 3 , ' the Thistle , No . 4 , the Arnott , and oN . 11 , Southwark , had subsequently a Conference amongst ;

themselves . Bro . Entwisle : No , they had not ; bufc they were represented at ; tho meeting convened by Lord Leigh , held on the 30 th May . Their desire was to establish a new Grand Mark Lodge by the union of all Lodges , which object , 1 believe , would have been accomplished if the Bon Accord Grand Lodge had not passed the resolutions

referred to before the Committee appointed at this meeting had made its report . Bro . Binckes : I must repeat that the Lodge mentioned had such Conference as that stated , and I will produce a Circular corroboration of my statement . * Afc that Conference they unanimously agreed to transfer their allegiance to the Grand Lodge of England . I admit that all , however , did not give effect to the agreement . Bro . Portal : Bro . Mackersy has stated as a point

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GRAND LODGE OF CANADA. Article 1
FREEMASONRY IN CONSTANTINOPLE. Article 2
THE MYSTIC BEAUTIES OF MASONRY. Article 4
MASONIC JOTTINGS, No. 78. Article 6
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 7
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 7
THE LITTLE TESTIMONIAL. Article 8
" LIBERTAS " AND BRO. YARKER. Article 8
MASONIC MEMS. Article 9
Craft Masonry. Article 9
INSTRUCTION. Article 9
PROVINCIAL. Article 9
ROYAL ARCH. Article 13
MARK MASONRY. Article 14
KNIGHTS TEMPLAR. Article 14
LAYING THE FOUNDATION STONE OF A MASONIC HALL AT SWANSEA. Article 15
THE PROVINCIAL GRAND MASTER. Article 16
LODGE OF BENEVOLENCE. Article 17
Obituary. Article 17
THE MARK DEGREE IN ENGLAND. Article 18
THE ROYAL ALBERT HALL CONCERTS. Article 20
LIST OF LODGE MEETNGS &c., FOR WEEK ENDING JULY 28TH, 1871. Article 20
METROPOLITAN LODGES AND CHAPTERS OF INSTRUCTION. Article 20
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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The Mark Degree In England.

THE MARK DEGREE IN ENGLAND .

{ Continued from page 58 ) . This Committee met twice ; but before its second meeting the Bon Accord Grand Lodge met on the 16 th June , and passed resolutions to this effect : —That any body of Freemasons who can prove that they have met ; and worked as a Mark Lodge before the Quartetly Communication of the Craft Grand LodgeJune , 1856 , shall

, have a right to unite with Lodges under this constitution , without number , and rank next under the Bon Accord Lodge . Also , Lodges working in England under a warrant granted by a Foreign Grand Lodge , shall have a right to form union with the Lodges under this constitution , taking rank according to the date of their respective

charters . Thus , I think , virtually withdrawing from the Committee which at its second meeting passed no resolutions , and came to a premature close . At this time , I believe , there were no Lodges under the jurisdiction of the English Grand Lodge of Mark Masters but the Bon Accord Lodge . And shortly after this Lord Leigh sent

a circular , inviting Lodges to place themselves under the authority of the Grand Lodge of England , on the presumed authority of a Report of a committee to enquire into the subject , which report never was submitted to the committee at all . To this meeting which I am speaking of , Bro . Warren and some other Brethren , members of tho Committeehad never been summoned :

, and ifc was very irregular . Ifc never received sanction , none of the Scotch Lodges ever acknowledged its authority , and up to this time none of the Scotch Lodges had joined the English Grand Mark Lodge ; but some time after this ( on the 18 th of November , 1857 ) there was an irregular procedure on the part of Bro . Gaylor , Scribe E . of Scotland . He issued two Grand

Chapter certificates , and very soon after that the English Mark Lodges went over and joined the English Grand Lodge of Mark Masters , which at that time represented sixteen Lodges . In April , 1858 , there was another Conference . A Committee was then proposed , and what they suggested was that the Scotch Lodges should not join the English Lodges ,

but that they should furm a new Grand Lodge altogether ; and since that time , September , 1858 , I have not had any communication whatever with respect , to the English Grand Mark Lodge . Bro . Binckes : I think you are not quite right as to one or two little matters . I understood myself that the Bon Accord Lodgo in England was the first Mark Lodge

which derived its warrant from a Subordinate Chapter , in Aberdeen , and that is one reason why I refused to join it- One complaint was , that three or four Brethren who had made enquiries as to the Mark Degree , were told lo apply to the Bon Accord R . A . Chapter in Aberdeen , who would give a warrant , and that they applied for a warrant .

Bro . Mackersy .- There appears to be here a confusion of dates , the proceeding of Bro . Gaylor . to which Bro . Binckes refers , had nothing whatever to do with the Bon Accord Lodge . It was connected with a Lodgo called the Old Kent ; it was an act done by the Secretary without any authority , and it was entirely repudiated by the Grand Chapter of Scotland . It appears that

some English Brethren were affiliated in absence in a Scotch Chapter through Bro . Gaylor ' s private act in 1857 , and they applied for a Mark AVarrant to work a Lodge in London to be called the Old Kent . Our Grand Chapter knew nothing of these facts , and granted the warrant , but the facts having been disclosed at the very next meeting of the Grand Chapter , the Brethren were struck off the roll ancl the warrant re-called . I do not think the warrant Avas even delivered ; but , afc any

rate ifc was ordered to be cancelled , and the Petitioners for ib were ordered to be struck off the roll of Scotch Royal Arch Masons . Bro . Binckes : Had I known this subject would have been brought ; forward , I would have come prepared with the documents which were necessary to show the real state of the case . The General Meeting was held

almost immediately after the non-confirmation of the Minutes by the Grand Craft ; Lodge in June , 1856 , and ifc was a meeting of the . Bon Accord , the Northumberland and Berwick , the Old Cumber-land ( Bath ) , and the Kent Lodges , which joined in the formation of the new Grand Lodge . Bro . Mackersy : Bro . Entwisle maintains that ; the Bon

Accord Lodge called itself a Grand Lodge , and started without any authority except his own , and thafc _ these Lodges afterwards joined ifc . You say they all jointly and severally formed a Grand Lodge , and invited others to join it . Bro . Binckes : The words of the Report are : — " Other Mark Master Masons who had taken the Degree in

various old ( time immemorial ) English Lodges , together with the members of the Bon Accord Lodge , gladly welcoming the increasing appreciation of the Mark Degree , bufc not approving tbe attempt to introduce a foreign Supreme Masonic Authority into England , resolved to constitute a Grand Lodge with jurisdiction

over the Mark Degree in this country and its dependencies , in the establishment of which they at once received the adherence of the following Lodges : " —those , viz . — as above , and others . Bro . Mackersy : Which is very much like what ; Bro . Entwisle says . Bro . Entwisle : In the establishment of your Grand

Lodge you did not consult with all the Mark Lodges in the country . Bro . Bincks : I do not contend that we did consult with all , bufc with a largo number . Bro . Entwisle : Where was the authority for your meeting and forming a Grand Lodge after a few months of your first meeting .

Bro . Binckes : In conjunction with the members of other Lodges we had a right to do so . Bro . Mackersy : Bro . Entwisle says that first of all the Bon Accord declared itself a Grand Lodge and gob the adhesion of these others afterwards . Bro . Binckes : The Report quoted from was drawn from written documents in our possession and does nob

bear out that statement . In 1857 the Grand Lodge under Lord Leigh , being then a Grand Lodge , as we contend , did put itself in communication with all tho jurisdictions wherever they could be found throughout the kingdom , and four Scotch Lodges—No . 1 , St . Mark ' s ; No . 3 , ' the Thistle , No . 4 , the Arnott , and oN . 11 , Southwark , had subsequently a Conference amongst ;

themselves . Bro . Entwisle : No , they had not ; bufc they were represented at ; tho meeting convened by Lord Leigh , held on the 30 th May . Their desire was to establish a new Grand Mark Lodge by the union of all Lodges , which object , 1 believe , would have been accomplished if the Bon Accord Grand Lodge had not passed the resolutions

referred to before the Committee appointed at this meeting had made its report . Bro . Binckes : I must repeat that the Lodge mentioned had such Conference as that stated , and I will produce a Circular corroboration of my statement . * Afc that Conference they unanimously agreed to transfer their allegiance to the Grand Lodge of England . I admit that all , however , did not give effect to the agreement . Bro . Portal : Bro . Mackersy has stated as a point

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