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Freemasory Considered

thought . Such may be the opinion of this brother , but it is not the opinion of Masons , it is not the teaching of Masomy . In Masonry a man has no age . His mental qualities and the discharge of his Masonic duties are alone looked at . I do not know who the brother is or Avhat his age may be , but I am

sorry to have to give him this lesson , Avhich perhaps may teach him in future to consider well before he puts such absurdities on paper . The fiery brother , who like another Don Quixote bounds into the lists to hurl me from my saddle at the first career , tho "Kni ght Templar , " deserves some

small attention , with his buckler of the " Encyclopedia Metropolitana . " Let us rend his buckler before Ave filli p him . What authority has the " Encyclopaedia Metropolitana" for stating that "the Provincial Grand Master of Auvergne , Pierre d'Aumont , with two Commanders ancl five Knights , fled disguised as Masons to one of the Scottish Isles ,

where they found the Grand Commander Hamptoncourt , " & c . Now , there never ivas such an office as the Provincial Grand Mastership of Auvergne . It was a Grand Priory , presided over by a Grand Prior . I shall be obliged to "Kni ght Templar" if he will point out to me in any work upon the persecution of

the Templars , which gives an account of the Proces and the names of the Kni ghts , these names " Pierre d'Aumont , Provincial Grand Master of Auvergne , " and "Grand Commander Hamptoneourt" ( De Clifton was at the time Grand Prior of Scotland ) , or such titles among the Knights Templars as Grand

Commander or Commander . The titles were Grand Prior or Preceptor , as every tyro kuoivs . Is it not very extraordinary that all famous Masonic events happened in the islands or obscure towns of Scotland ? I Avould refer a " Knight Templar " to the works of Pissot , Grouvelle , Raynouard , Bardlet , and others , authorities with whom the inconsiderate brother is

seemingly unacquainted , ancl AVIIO are my authorities . I ask him , furthermore , to point out any work where the circumstance referred to is mentioned , that is , any A \ -ork not emanating from the spurious body . As for the Templars' connection with Aberdeen , permit me to refer " Knight Templar " to an authority , Avhich

even he must bow to—Sir James Buines , Grand Prior of the Knights Templars in India , AVIIO , in his work upon the Order , at page 71 , Avrites" The delusions on this subject , however , had taken such a hold in Germany , that they were not altogether dispelled until a deputation had actuallAusited

y Aberdeen , and found amongst the Avorthy and astonished brethren there no trace either of very ancient Templars or Freemasonry . '" I leave my brethren to judge who is ri g ht , t repeat my statement that , on the suppression of the Order , the name of Knight Templar as the designation of a member

of an Order became extinct . I shall be glad to hear of an authorit y between 1320 and 1700 who Avrites to the contrary . On this point , having studied the subject , I hold myself to be a more competent authority than " A Kni ght Templar , " whose ideas of the ancient Order have been gathered among the

deserts of our modern mockery , Avhere the writer of the article in the "Enc . Met . " " appears to have been before him . Even the name of Dr . Oliver cannot make a lie truth . I regret to see that "Kni ght Templar , " after proving himself ignorant of history ,.

Freemasory Considered

resets to' mendicity' to' cast discredit Spoil my statement . ¦ I am not self-con ' stilittcd President-General of the Masonic Literary Union . It was greatly against my wishes' that I took the office , as my f riett'ds well know , and it was the simple consideration that' the ' office Avas one which I could resign at the end of the

year that made me accept it . This " Knight " Templar ' s " ideas of truth and Masonic honour appeal to be on a par ivith his historical knowledge . I may add that , as for the Knight K -h , 1 could teach ' "Kni g ht Templar more of the degree than , judging from his present appearance in printhe is ever likely

, to know , even in spite of his too fatally confident " assertion that I know nothing of it ' . In conclusion , I suspect that Bro . Hopkins' is right in thinking it advisable not to insist upon printing " the names of such correspondents ; I would go further , and think their productions should never be'printed .

Their lucubrations really tend to show the Craft up iu an unfavourable light , and their historical fallacies can only produce contempt in the mind of the scholar . Such brethren must be perfectly well' ' aware that their - \ vi 3 d , Avandering , ancl false statements cannot be constantly answered , and if * ao' better

advocate appears for the upper degrees than these three , your sensible readers will agree ivith me that " it is a AA aste of time ancl space to trouble myself withthem . Authorities I Avant , not idle and childish assertions , devoid of common sense , as thsy are ' devoid of truth . Yours fraternally , A . 0 . HAXS :

Hampton Court.

HAMPTON COURT .

TO THE EDITOR OF THE FREEMASONS * MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIRROR . DEAR SIR AND BROTHER . —What authority is there for the statement of " A Knight Templar . " at page 4 G 9 of the- Freemasons' Magazine , that what he calls the P . G . M . of Auvergne Avith two Commanders ancl five knights fled disguised as Masons to one of the Scottish Isles ? What does he mean by Masons

•—operative or I \ ancl A . ? If the latter ; how Avere they disguised ? If operative , what connection had operative Avith F . and A . Masonry ? How came the Grand Commander Hamptoneourt- and other members of the Order in one of the isles ? What is "Hamptoneourt ? " Is it French or English ?• What

connection had it with Hampton Court , and Avas the Grand Commander carried to the latter place in a van ? What authority is there for their removal to Aberdeen , how did they maintain themselves , and Avhy did the Rcniau Catholic authorities allow the excommunicated to harbour in the small toivn of

Aberdeen ? Plow could the Order spread under theveil of Freemasonry , and Avhat kind of Freemasonry ? Operative Freemasonry , for Avhich we have- some kind of evidence , or Free aud Accepted Freemasonry , for Avhich Ave have no evidence ? What became of the Continental Templars , so derived ?

Aberdeen was a very unlikely place for grand dignitaries of the Templars to harbour iu . The ecclesiastics were in force , and the Knights of St .. John AVIIO had a great stake iu the confiscated lands of the Templars , kept a sharp eye on their victims A body of Frenchmen in Aberdeen Avould havebecome known to . the French at the Scotch court intotho bargain ,. Yours fraternally , LEOENDABIUS ..

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ORATION DELIVERED AT THE CONSECRATION OF THE ELIOT LODGE, Article 1
FREEMASONRY CONSIDERED. Article 2
HISTORY OF FREEMASONRY IN CORNWALL. Article 4
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 6
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 7
FREEMASORY CONSIDERED Article 9
HAMPTON COURT. Article 10
MASONIC MEMS. Article 11
PROVINCIAL. Article 11
CHANNEL ISLANDS. Article 15
ISLE OF MAN. Article 15
Obituary. Article 15
Poetry. Article 15
"SIT LUX." Article 16
NOTES ON LITERATURE, SCIENCE, MUSIC, DRAMA, AND THE FINE ARTS. Article 16
MEETINGS OF THE SCIENTIFIC AND LEARNED SOCIETIES FOR, THE WEEK ENDING JUNE Article 17
THE WEEK. Article 17
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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Freemasory Considered

thought . Such may be the opinion of this brother , but it is not the opinion of Masons , it is not the teaching of Masomy . In Masonry a man has no age . His mental qualities and the discharge of his Masonic duties are alone looked at . I do not know who the brother is or Avhat his age may be , but I am

sorry to have to give him this lesson , Avhich perhaps may teach him in future to consider well before he puts such absurdities on paper . The fiery brother , who like another Don Quixote bounds into the lists to hurl me from my saddle at the first career , tho "Kni ght Templar , " deserves some

small attention , with his buckler of the " Encyclopedia Metropolitana . " Let us rend his buckler before Ave filli p him . What authority has the " Encyclopaedia Metropolitana" for stating that "the Provincial Grand Master of Auvergne , Pierre d'Aumont , with two Commanders ancl five Knights , fled disguised as Masons to one of the Scottish Isles ,

where they found the Grand Commander Hamptoncourt , " & c . Now , there never ivas such an office as the Provincial Grand Mastership of Auvergne . It was a Grand Priory , presided over by a Grand Prior . I shall be obliged to "Kni ght Templar" if he will point out to me in any work upon the persecution of

the Templars , which gives an account of the Proces and the names of the Kni ghts , these names " Pierre d'Aumont , Provincial Grand Master of Auvergne , " and "Grand Commander Hamptoneourt" ( De Clifton was at the time Grand Prior of Scotland ) , or such titles among the Knights Templars as Grand

Commander or Commander . The titles were Grand Prior or Preceptor , as every tyro kuoivs . Is it not very extraordinary that all famous Masonic events happened in the islands or obscure towns of Scotland ? I Avould refer a " Knight Templar " to the works of Pissot , Grouvelle , Raynouard , Bardlet , and others , authorities with whom the inconsiderate brother is

seemingly unacquainted , ancl AVIIO are my authorities . I ask him , furthermore , to point out any work where the circumstance referred to is mentioned , that is , any A \ -ork not emanating from the spurious body . As for the Templars' connection with Aberdeen , permit me to refer " Knight Templar " to an authority , Avhich

even he must bow to—Sir James Buines , Grand Prior of the Knights Templars in India , AVIIO , in his work upon the Order , at page 71 , Avrites" The delusions on this subject , however , had taken such a hold in Germany , that they were not altogether dispelled until a deputation had actuallAusited

y Aberdeen , and found amongst the Avorthy and astonished brethren there no trace either of very ancient Templars or Freemasonry . '" I leave my brethren to judge who is ri g ht , t repeat my statement that , on the suppression of the Order , the name of Knight Templar as the designation of a member

of an Order became extinct . I shall be glad to hear of an authorit y between 1320 and 1700 who Avrites to the contrary . On this point , having studied the subject , I hold myself to be a more competent authority than " A Kni ght Templar , " whose ideas of the ancient Order have been gathered among the

deserts of our modern mockery , Avhere the writer of the article in the "Enc . Met . " " appears to have been before him . Even the name of Dr . Oliver cannot make a lie truth . I regret to see that "Kni ght Templar , " after proving himself ignorant of history ,.

Freemasory Considered

resets to' mendicity' to' cast discredit Spoil my statement . ¦ I am not self-con ' stilittcd President-General of the Masonic Literary Union . It was greatly against my wishes' that I took the office , as my f riett'ds well know , and it was the simple consideration that' the ' office Avas one which I could resign at the end of the

year that made me accept it . This " Knight " Templar ' s " ideas of truth and Masonic honour appeal to be on a par ivith his historical knowledge . I may add that , as for the Knight K -h , 1 could teach ' "Kni g ht Templar more of the degree than , judging from his present appearance in printhe is ever likely

, to know , even in spite of his too fatally confident " assertion that I know nothing of it ' . In conclusion , I suspect that Bro . Hopkins' is right in thinking it advisable not to insist upon printing " the names of such correspondents ; I would go further , and think their productions should never be'printed .

Their lucubrations really tend to show the Craft up iu an unfavourable light , and their historical fallacies can only produce contempt in the mind of the scholar . Such brethren must be perfectly well' ' aware that their - \ vi 3 d , Avandering , ancl false statements cannot be constantly answered , and if * ao' better

advocate appears for the upper degrees than these three , your sensible readers will agree ivith me that " it is a AA aste of time ancl space to trouble myself withthem . Authorities I Avant , not idle and childish assertions , devoid of common sense , as thsy are ' devoid of truth . Yours fraternally , A . 0 . HAXS :

Hampton Court.

HAMPTON COURT .

TO THE EDITOR OF THE FREEMASONS * MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIRROR . DEAR SIR AND BROTHER . —What authority is there for the statement of " A Knight Templar . " at page 4 G 9 of the- Freemasons' Magazine , that what he calls the P . G . M . of Auvergne Avith two Commanders ancl five knights fled disguised as Masons to one of the Scottish Isles ? What does he mean by Masons

•—operative or I \ ancl A . ? If the latter ; how Avere they disguised ? If operative , what connection had operative Avith F . and A . Masonry ? How came the Grand Commander Hamptoneourt- and other members of the Order in one of the isles ? What is "Hamptoneourt ? " Is it French or English ?• What

connection had it with Hampton Court , and Avas the Grand Commander carried to the latter place in a van ? What authority is there for their removal to Aberdeen , how did they maintain themselves , and Avhy did the Rcniau Catholic authorities allow the excommunicated to harbour in the small toivn of

Aberdeen ? Plow could the Order spread under theveil of Freemasonry , and Avhat kind of Freemasonry ? Operative Freemasonry , for Avhich we have- some kind of evidence , or Free aud Accepted Freemasonry , for Avhich Ave have no evidence ? What became of the Continental Templars , so derived ?

Aberdeen was a very unlikely place for grand dignitaries of the Templars to harbour iu . The ecclesiastics were in force , and the Knights of St .. John AVIIO had a great stake iu the confiscated lands of the Templars , kept a sharp eye on their victims A body of Frenchmen in Aberdeen Avould havebecome known to . the French at the Scotch court intotho bargain ,. Yours fraternally , LEOENDABIUS ..

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