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Masonic Notes And Queries.

at Kensington , by the Rev . R . Taylor ; probably about the year 1785 . —Ex . Ex . THE BOOK Of ? CONSTITUTIONS . What other editions ( printed in the English language ) are known of tho Booh of Constitutions , besides those edited by Anderson , Entick , Noorthouck , Spratt , the imperfect one by Williams , and the Ahiman Bezon of Dermott?—Ex . Ex .

SING OLD ROSE AND BURN THE BELLOWS . In what song or poem , does it occur that Masons are spoken of as —• " They meet , a lot of queer old fellows , To sing old rose and burn the bellows . " I am not quite sure the above are the exact words , but if they are not , they are very nearly so . —Ex . Ex . BRO . BURCKHAKDT ' S PATERS .

Is it known who is in possession of the late Bro . Burckhardt ' s papers ?—AVA .- —[ We believe two brethren have each bundles of them , but are not at liberty to disclose their names , though we have been promised some important notes from them by one brother who has a large collection of them . ]

PRIESTLY ORDERS . What are the priestly orders ?—L . —[ Apply to Bro . John Purdy . He can tell you , we cannot ] . 3 IAS 0 NIC CONVERSAZIONE . Is there any method of getting up a Masonic conversazione , where , over a cup of tea and coffee , information and suggestions could be exchanged on Masonic subjects ?—Ex . Ex .

LEDGER V . WEBSTER . Before the preliminary indictment or the recent trial , Ledger v . Webster , was any effort made to remind those brethren that the ancient charges declare " Craftsmen are bound by peculiar ties to promote peace , cultivate harmony , and live in concord and brotherly love . " That they " are to avoid all ill language , to call each other by no disobliging namebut

, brother or fellow ; and to behave themselves courteously within and without the lodge . " As well as the latter one , viz .: — " All these charges you are to ohserve , and also those that shall he communicated to you in another way ; cultivating hrotherly love , the cape-stone , the cement and glory , of this antient fraternityavoiding all wranglingand quarrellingall

, , , slander and backbiting , nor permitting others to slander any honest brother , hut defending his character and doing him all good offices , as far as is consistent with your honour and safety , and no farther . And if any of them do you injury , you must apply to your own or his lodge ; and from thence you may appeal to the Grand Lodge , at the Quarterly Communication , as has been the antient laudable conduct of our forefathers in

every nation ; never taking a legal course but when' the case cannot be otherwise decided , and patiently listening to the honest and friendly advice of Master and fellows , when they would prevent your going to law with strangers , or would excite you to put a speedy period to all law suits , that so yon may find the affair of Masonry with the more alacrity and success ; hut with respect to brothers or fellows at law , the Master and brethren should kindly offer their mediation , which ought to be

thankfully submitted-to by the contending brethren ; and if that submission is impracticable , they must , however , carry on their process , or law-suit , without wrath and rancour ( not in the common way ) , saying or doing nothing which may hinder brotherly love and good offices to be renewed and continued , that all may see the benign influence of Masonry , as all true Masons have done from the beginning of the world , and will do to the end of time .

If this had been done , might not the unfortuuate spectacle of two Masons " going to law , " as it is termed , have been prevented ? Would it be improper to suggest that a Council Masonic , similar to the Connseils Pmdhomm . es of France , should be established with the view of settling any such differences that might arise for the future?—f

4-t-JAMBLICHUS . Was Jambliohus , who wrote on the mysteries of the ancients , a Mason?—C . B .

MASONS S 3 IARKS AND THE " GREEK NUMERALS . " I do not know whether or not any of my brother Masons have had their attention directed to the very strikincr resemblance which some of our ancient Masons marks and the so-called " Greek Numeral Letters" bear to each other . John Baaing , or De Basinstoke , a native of Basingstoke , in Hampshire , studied at Oxford , Paris , and

Athens ( meeting with the numerals at the latter place ) , and afterwards became Archdeacon of Leicester . Matthew Paris , says : — " This Master John , moreover , brought the Greek numeral figures into England , together with their symbols , and the knowledge of their import , and explained them , to Ms particular friends . By which figures also letters are represented ; and , what is most

remarkable , any number is represented by a single figure , which is not the case in the Roman numerals , or in ordinary arithmetic . " John de Basingstoke was a most celebrated orator , divine philosopher , and mathematician of the first half of the thirteenth century ; and Ms numerals are worthy the attention of Masons—GEORGE MAKKHASI TWEDDELL . '

HAIL OB HELE " Hele , " which is the right way of spelling the word . ' is derived from the Saxon "Helan" to hide , to cover ' hence the the word Hell , the abode of departed spirits ' or as Bailey has it , "the state of the dead . " " Hele " is also connected with the Teutonic word " herhehleu , " as Hell is also from the Teutonic "Haile . " As to the pronunciation I take it to be Hele , sounding Heel . Had it

been pronounced Hele ( Hell ) there would have been two i ' s . I can see no reason to pronounce it " Hail" as I can find no similar cases in any of the old MSS . I have consulted , on the contrary , arguing from analogy the following lines would confirm my view , that it should be pronounced hele ( Heel ) . " And take here goodes , aud here cattelle ,

Ynto the Kynges hond , every delle ; And lete hem dwelle there ful stylle , Tyl hyt he our lege Kynge ' s wylle . " —Constituaiones adtis gemetrue , I . 467 . — -H .

PRONUNCIATION OF " HELE . Your correspondent of last week will find this word in Saxon dictionaries spelt Hffllan , pronounced as Heel . Bailey gives it in two places " Heal , " to cover up , as a word used in Sussex , and "Hele , " to hide . If the first e were pronounced as a , the final e would also have to be sounded . May it not be-a corruption of the Latin Celo , to hide or cover?—KING OP CLUBS .

GRAND OFFICERS 01 ? THE ORDER OF KNIGHTS TEMPLAR . Several discussions have taken place respecting Templar Grand Officers . Yertot gives a list of the brethren present at a Chapter of Malta in the 16 th century , omitting names we find the following : —G . M ., Prior of the Church , Bailiff of the Convent , Commander or Seneschal , Marshall or Capt . General , Hospitaller , Admiral , Conservator ( formerly Draper ) , Turcopilier or

Capt . of the Guards ( a Chancellor , his Lieutenant , and a Treasurer are elsewhere mentioned ) , Grand Priors of 8 Langues , Capitular Bailiff , Lieut , of the Cap . Bail ( or Sub Priors ); Proxies of the Grand Prior , of the Cap . Bail ., of the 8 languages , of the Commanders of the Priories , Companions of the G . M . ( some 20 or 30 ) , Knts ; on entering took their places thus— g & & ° - ^ ne

Grand Officer was appointed of each Langue , England formerly having that of Tnrcopiler . The Marshall commanded all but Great Crosses—Bailiff and Priors—them Lieutenants and the Chaplains , and he had also the privilige ( as with the early Templars ) , of appointing the Std . Bearer . I would call attention to the position assigned the Hospitaller here , and in all systems except onr own . —A .

THE WORD " PREE-MASON . The word " Free-mason" occurs , for the first time , in the Statue 25 Edward I . ( 1350 ) , entitled "Le Statuts

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GRAND LODGE. Article 1
MASONIC FACTS. Article 2
ADOPTIVE MASONRY IN ITALY. Article 6
THIRTY-SIX HOURS WITH THE DEAD. Article 7
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 7
NOTES ON LITERATURE, SCIENCE, AND ART. Article 10
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 11
ANCIENT AND MODERN FREEMASONRY. Article 12
WARDENS AND MASTERS. Article 13
THE CHANNEL ISLANDS. Article 13
ENGLISH AND IRISH PAST MASTERS. Article 13
ROYAL MASONIC INSTITUTION FOR BOYS. Article 13
THE MASONIC MIRROR. Article 14
METROPOLITAN. Article 14
PROVINCIAL. Article 15
COLONIAL. Article 17
ROYAL ARCH. Article 17
KNIGHTS TEMPLAR. Article 18
Obituary. Article 18
THE WEEK. Article 18
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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Masonic Notes And Queries.

at Kensington , by the Rev . R . Taylor ; probably about the year 1785 . —Ex . Ex . THE BOOK Of ? CONSTITUTIONS . What other editions ( printed in the English language ) are known of tho Booh of Constitutions , besides those edited by Anderson , Entick , Noorthouck , Spratt , the imperfect one by Williams , and the Ahiman Bezon of Dermott?—Ex . Ex .

SING OLD ROSE AND BURN THE BELLOWS . In what song or poem , does it occur that Masons are spoken of as —• " They meet , a lot of queer old fellows , To sing old rose and burn the bellows . " I am not quite sure the above are the exact words , but if they are not , they are very nearly so . —Ex . Ex . BRO . BURCKHAKDT ' S PATERS .

Is it known who is in possession of the late Bro . Burckhardt ' s papers ?—AVA .- —[ We believe two brethren have each bundles of them , but are not at liberty to disclose their names , though we have been promised some important notes from them by one brother who has a large collection of them . ]

PRIESTLY ORDERS . What are the priestly orders ?—L . —[ Apply to Bro . John Purdy . He can tell you , we cannot ] . 3 IAS 0 NIC CONVERSAZIONE . Is there any method of getting up a Masonic conversazione , where , over a cup of tea and coffee , information and suggestions could be exchanged on Masonic subjects ?—Ex . Ex .

LEDGER V . WEBSTER . Before the preliminary indictment or the recent trial , Ledger v . Webster , was any effort made to remind those brethren that the ancient charges declare " Craftsmen are bound by peculiar ties to promote peace , cultivate harmony , and live in concord and brotherly love . " That they " are to avoid all ill language , to call each other by no disobliging namebut

, brother or fellow ; and to behave themselves courteously within and without the lodge . " As well as the latter one , viz .: — " All these charges you are to ohserve , and also those that shall he communicated to you in another way ; cultivating hrotherly love , the cape-stone , the cement and glory , of this antient fraternityavoiding all wranglingand quarrellingall

, , , slander and backbiting , nor permitting others to slander any honest brother , hut defending his character and doing him all good offices , as far as is consistent with your honour and safety , and no farther . And if any of them do you injury , you must apply to your own or his lodge ; and from thence you may appeal to the Grand Lodge , at the Quarterly Communication , as has been the antient laudable conduct of our forefathers in

every nation ; never taking a legal course but when' the case cannot be otherwise decided , and patiently listening to the honest and friendly advice of Master and fellows , when they would prevent your going to law with strangers , or would excite you to put a speedy period to all law suits , that so yon may find the affair of Masonry with the more alacrity and success ; hut with respect to brothers or fellows at law , the Master and brethren should kindly offer their mediation , which ought to be

thankfully submitted-to by the contending brethren ; and if that submission is impracticable , they must , however , carry on their process , or law-suit , without wrath and rancour ( not in the common way ) , saying or doing nothing which may hinder brotherly love and good offices to be renewed and continued , that all may see the benign influence of Masonry , as all true Masons have done from the beginning of the world , and will do to the end of time .

If this had been done , might not the unfortuuate spectacle of two Masons " going to law , " as it is termed , have been prevented ? Would it be improper to suggest that a Council Masonic , similar to the Connseils Pmdhomm . es of France , should be established with the view of settling any such differences that might arise for the future?—f

4-t-JAMBLICHUS . Was Jambliohus , who wrote on the mysteries of the ancients , a Mason?—C . B .

MASONS S 3 IARKS AND THE " GREEK NUMERALS . " I do not know whether or not any of my brother Masons have had their attention directed to the very strikincr resemblance which some of our ancient Masons marks and the so-called " Greek Numeral Letters" bear to each other . John Baaing , or De Basinstoke , a native of Basingstoke , in Hampshire , studied at Oxford , Paris , and

Athens ( meeting with the numerals at the latter place ) , and afterwards became Archdeacon of Leicester . Matthew Paris , says : — " This Master John , moreover , brought the Greek numeral figures into England , together with their symbols , and the knowledge of their import , and explained them , to Ms particular friends . By which figures also letters are represented ; and , what is most

remarkable , any number is represented by a single figure , which is not the case in the Roman numerals , or in ordinary arithmetic . " John de Basingstoke was a most celebrated orator , divine philosopher , and mathematician of the first half of the thirteenth century ; and Ms numerals are worthy the attention of Masons—GEORGE MAKKHASI TWEDDELL . '

HAIL OB HELE " Hele , " which is the right way of spelling the word . ' is derived from the Saxon "Helan" to hide , to cover ' hence the the word Hell , the abode of departed spirits ' or as Bailey has it , "the state of the dead . " " Hele " is also connected with the Teutonic word " herhehleu , " as Hell is also from the Teutonic "Haile . " As to the pronunciation I take it to be Hele , sounding Heel . Had it

been pronounced Hele ( Hell ) there would have been two i ' s . I can see no reason to pronounce it " Hail" as I can find no similar cases in any of the old MSS . I have consulted , on the contrary , arguing from analogy the following lines would confirm my view , that it should be pronounced hele ( Heel ) . " And take here goodes , aud here cattelle ,

Ynto the Kynges hond , every delle ; And lete hem dwelle there ful stylle , Tyl hyt he our lege Kynge ' s wylle . " —Constituaiones adtis gemetrue , I . 467 . — -H .

PRONUNCIATION OF " HELE . Your correspondent of last week will find this word in Saxon dictionaries spelt Hffllan , pronounced as Heel . Bailey gives it in two places " Heal , " to cover up , as a word used in Sussex , and "Hele , " to hide . If the first e were pronounced as a , the final e would also have to be sounded . May it not be-a corruption of the Latin Celo , to hide or cover?—KING OP CLUBS .

GRAND OFFICERS 01 ? THE ORDER OF KNIGHTS TEMPLAR . Several discussions have taken place respecting Templar Grand Officers . Yertot gives a list of the brethren present at a Chapter of Malta in the 16 th century , omitting names we find the following : —G . M ., Prior of the Church , Bailiff of the Convent , Commander or Seneschal , Marshall or Capt . General , Hospitaller , Admiral , Conservator ( formerly Draper ) , Turcopilier or

Capt . of the Guards ( a Chancellor , his Lieutenant , and a Treasurer are elsewhere mentioned ) , Grand Priors of 8 Langues , Capitular Bailiff , Lieut , of the Cap . Bail ( or Sub Priors ); Proxies of the Grand Prior , of the Cap . Bail ., of the 8 languages , of the Commanders of the Priories , Companions of the G . M . ( some 20 or 30 ) , Knts ; on entering took their places thus— g & & ° - ^ ne

Grand Officer was appointed of each Langue , England formerly having that of Tnrcopiler . The Marshall commanded all but Great Crosses—Bailiff and Priors—them Lieutenants and the Chaplains , and he had also the privilige ( as with the early Templars ) , of appointing the Std . Bearer . I would call attention to the position assigned the Hospitaller here , and in all systems except onr own . —A .

THE WORD " PREE-MASON . The word " Free-mason" occurs , for the first time , in the Statue 25 Edward I . ( 1350 ) , entitled "Le Statuts

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