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Wardens And Masters.

WARDENS AND MASTERS .

TO THE EDITOR OP THE FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIRROR . DEAR SIR AND BROTHER , —Excelsior need not seek in formation , in his difficulty , from the writings of our Rev-Bro . Oliver , when he can find full conviction in the Booh of Constitutions . In the edition of 1861 , p . 75 , Art . vi ., he will find as follows : — " If no Past Master of the lodge be present ,

then the Senior Warden , or , in his absence , the Junior Warden , shall rule the lodge ; " in reading which he must remember it refers to a P . M . of the lodge , one Who has occupied by installation the Masters' Chair in that lodge , and that it does not refer to any other P . M . in the lodge . On reference to the same Constitutions , p . 23 , Art . xv ., he will findinter aliathat " all for the

-, , powers govern ment of private lodges shall be exercised by the officers by any law or constitution authorized to preside or act in the absence of any superior officer , as fully , to all intents and purposes , as if such substitute officer was specified in any law or constitution in which any powers are given or regulations prescribed for the principals , & c . " When the Wardens are appointed and invested , they are

informed that in the absence of the W . M . his duties will devolve upon them , and they would be called upon to exercise the more important functions ; that the brethren may not suffer for want of proper instruction . And when I filled the position of S . AV . in the presence of several P . M . 's in the lodge , but not of the lodge , I conferred the ceremony of F . C . on two of the members of

the lodge , and acting under the same opinion of the legality of the act , I should not have hesitated to confer the superior degree , if necessai * y , and my acts on that occasion were unanimously confirmed at the next meeting of the lodge . As to a W . M . delegating his office to a stranger , except in the Prince of Wales Lod ( No . 324 ) no W . M . has the

ge , power even to permit a stranger to occupy his chair , unless with the consent of every P . M . of the lodge , and both of the AYardens , unless such stranger should be the Prov . G . M ., and iu that case he must submit . —Constitutions , p . 46 , Art . hi . Tours fraternally , March 17 , 1862 . R . E . 5 .

The Channel Islands.

THE CHANNEL ISLANDS .

TO THE EDITOR OE TIIE EEEEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIRROR . DEAR SIR AND BROTHER , —Under the above heading in your Magazine of the 22 nd February , appears a verylong letter signed by H . H ., and according to the writers wish , I have turned to the different reports of Jersey , and find that all those wherein a disrespectful tone is conveyed touching the conduct of " an officer of high

rank , " is signed H . H . He must certainly be of a very amiable and benevolent disposition to take so much trouble to endeavour to bring his Masonic chiefs into such unenviable notoriety , and I must say I am somewhat pleased to see that he has all the fighting to himself ; as no one takes the slightest notice of his remarks , in the shape of a lbut I can assure Mr

repy , you , . Editor , I am not going to commence one , as this will bethe only letter I shall write on the subject , my object being to protest against such continual attacks , which are highly disrespectful to our Grand Master , who appoints the Provincial Grand Master , or in accordance with our principles as Masons . When a brother deliberatel " it is thought better to allow

y says matters to work round in full confidence , that the evil now felt will become more fully developed , " shews the animus of the writer ; had he expressed a hope that the evils complained of would have been speedily removed . It would have been much more honourable to himself ,

The Channel Islands.

both as a man and a Mason . He says the matter , whatever it was , has been enquired into , and a verdict given in favour of the brother " the officer of high rank , " if so , he as a Mason is bound by law to acquiesce in that decision , it is certainly not Ms province to constitute himself both judge and jury on the verdict given by our " officers of hih rank" or question the decision of our

g , Masonic tribunals after the case is disposed of , or account the judgment not being as he could wish . I would recommend him to read the decision of our Board of General Purposes marked number four in their Agenda paper , to be presented on Wednesday , and which no doubt tMs week ' s MAGAZINE will give every particular of , also the decision of the Colomal Board on the complaint

against the Prov . G . M . for South Australia ; as I think they bear exactly on his case . H . H . tells us he is from the " mother country " but does not complain of "the officer of high rank , " having decorated him with the highest honour he could give him , which I presume he has done ( signing himself P . Prov . S . G . W ., ) over the heads of those initiated in his province . I can only say

Bro . Editor , this continual stirring up of strife tends neither to elevate us in public opinion or private estimation , and unless our brother can excercise a little more charity , brotherly love , and Masonic feeling ; in my opinion it were better by far that he should retire , rather than disturb the harmony of the province . I am Dear Sir and Brother , yours fraternally , OMEGA . London , March 4 th , 1862 .

English And Irish Past Masters.

ENGLISH AND IRISH PAST MASTERS .

TO THE EDITOE OE THE FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIEEOK DEAR SIR AND BROTHER , —Having read your excellent answer to a correspondent in this week's MAGAZINE , relative to P . M . from the Grand Lodge of Ireland . I presume he will not again by inuendo trouble you in my case , and as I now have the satisfaction of publicly stating for his information and others , that I had the

honour of being duly elected , installed , and served as W . M . for two consecutive years , 1839 and 1840 , in St . Andrews Lodge ( No . 25 ) I . C , which has been proved to the entire satisfaction of excellent Masters and Past Masters in Deptford and Greenwich . I wish you would therefore kindly inform me , Sir , if in the absence of the immediate P . M . of Lodge 1173 , of which I am now S . D .,

and a member since its formation , I am entitled to do his duty , being the senior P . M . in the lodge . I am Sir and Brother , yours fraternally , JOHN W . WEIR , P . M . No . 25 , 1 . C . Deptford , March 8 th , 1862 . [ The correspondent did not refer to Bro . Weir at all nor any lodge with which he is connectod . We do not consider that a P . M . of an Irish lodge can claim the right of performing ceremonies in English lodges , though he may by courtesy be allowed to do so . ]

Royal Masonic Institution For Boys.

ROYAL MASONIC INSTITUTION FOR BOYS .

TO THE EDITOE OB THE IRESMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIBEOE . DEAR _ SIR AND BROTHER , —I find that the publication of the lists of contributions at the late Festival , in the manner referred to in my letter to you last week , would encroach so considerably on your space that I have preferred having them printed for circulation in a separate form . Apologising for the trouble I have uselessly

occasioned you , I am , Dear Sir and Brother , yours , fraternally obliged , FREDERICK BINCKES , Secretary . 16 A , Great Queen-street , W . C , March 19 , 1862 .

“The Freemasons' Monthly Magazine: 1862-03-22, Page 13” Masonic Periodicals Online, Library and Museum of Freemasonry, 30 June 2025, django:8000/periodicals/mmr/issues/mmr_22031862/page/13/.
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GRAND LODGE. Article 1
MASONIC FACTS. Article 2
ADOPTIVE MASONRY IN ITALY. Article 6
THIRTY-SIX HOURS WITH THE DEAD. Article 7
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 7
NOTES ON LITERATURE, SCIENCE, AND ART. Article 10
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 11
ANCIENT AND MODERN FREEMASONRY. Article 12
WARDENS AND MASTERS. Article 13
THE CHANNEL ISLANDS. Article 13
ENGLISH AND IRISH PAST MASTERS. Article 13
ROYAL MASONIC INSTITUTION FOR BOYS. Article 13
THE MASONIC MIRROR. Article 14
METROPOLITAN. Article 14
PROVINCIAL. Article 15
COLONIAL. Article 17
ROYAL ARCH. Article 17
KNIGHTS TEMPLAR. Article 18
Obituary. Article 18
THE WEEK. Article 18
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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Wardens And Masters.

WARDENS AND MASTERS .

TO THE EDITOR OP THE FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIRROR . DEAR SIR AND BROTHER , —Excelsior need not seek in formation , in his difficulty , from the writings of our Rev-Bro . Oliver , when he can find full conviction in the Booh of Constitutions . In the edition of 1861 , p . 75 , Art . vi ., he will find as follows : — " If no Past Master of the lodge be present ,

then the Senior Warden , or , in his absence , the Junior Warden , shall rule the lodge ; " in reading which he must remember it refers to a P . M . of the lodge , one Who has occupied by installation the Masters' Chair in that lodge , and that it does not refer to any other P . M . in the lodge . On reference to the same Constitutions , p . 23 , Art . xv ., he will findinter aliathat " all for the

-, , powers govern ment of private lodges shall be exercised by the officers by any law or constitution authorized to preside or act in the absence of any superior officer , as fully , to all intents and purposes , as if such substitute officer was specified in any law or constitution in which any powers are given or regulations prescribed for the principals , & c . " When the Wardens are appointed and invested , they are

informed that in the absence of the W . M . his duties will devolve upon them , and they would be called upon to exercise the more important functions ; that the brethren may not suffer for want of proper instruction . And when I filled the position of S . AV . in the presence of several P . M . 's in the lodge , but not of the lodge , I conferred the ceremony of F . C . on two of the members of

the lodge , and acting under the same opinion of the legality of the act , I should not have hesitated to confer the superior degree , if necessai * y , and my acts on that occasion were unanimously confirmed at the next meeting of the lodge . As to a W . M . delegating his office to a stranger , except in the Prince of Wales Lod ( No . 324 ) no W . M . has the

ge , power even to permit a stranger to occupy his chair , unless with the consent of every P . M . of the lodge , and both of the AYardens , unless such stranger should be the Prov . G . M ., and iu that case he must submit . —Constitutions , p . 46 , Art . hi . Tours fraternally , March 17 , 1862 . R . E . 5 .

The Channel Islands.

THE CHANNEL ISLANDS .

TO THE EDITOR OE TIIE EEEEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIRROR . DEAR SIR AND BROTHER , —Under the above heading in your Magazine of the 22 nd February , appears a verylong letter signed by H . H ., and according to the writers wish , I have turned to the different reports of Jersey , and find that all those wherein a disrespectful tone is conveyed touching the conduct of " an officer of high

rank , " is signed H . H . He must certainly be of a very amiable and benevolent disposition to take so much trouble to endeavour to bring his Masonic chiefs into such unenviable notoriety , and I must say I am somewhat pleased to see that he has all the fighting to himself ; as no one takes the slightest notice of his remarks , in the shape of a lbut I can assure Mr

repy , you , . Editor , I am not going to commence one , as this will bethe only letter I shall write on the subject , my object being to protest against such continual attacks , which are highly disrespectful to our Grand Master , who appoints the Provincial Grand Master , or in accordance with our principles as Masons . When a brother deliberatel " it is thought better to allow

y says matters to work round in full confidence , that the evil now felt will become more fully developed , " shews the animus of the writer ; had he expressed a hope that the evils complained of would have been speedily removed . It would have been much more honourable to himself ,

The Channel Islands.

both as a man and a Mason . He says the matter , whatever it was , has been enquired into , and a verdict given in favour of the brother " the officer of high rank , " if so , he as a Mason is bound by law to acquiesce in that decision , it is certainly not Ms province to constitute himself both judge and jury on the verdict given by our " officers of hih rank" or question the decision of our

g , Masonic tribunals after the case is disposed of , or account the judgment not being as he could wish . I would recommend him to read the decision of our Board of General Purposes marked number four in their Agenda paper , to be presented on Wednesday , and which no doubt tMs week ' s MAGAZINE will give every particular of , also the decision of the Colomal Board on the complaint

against the Prov . G . M . for South Australia ; as I think they bear exactly on his case . H . H . tells us he is from the " mother country " but does not complain of "the officer of high rank , " having decorated him with the highest honour he could give him , which I presume he has done ( signing himself P . Prov . S . G . W ., ) over the heads of those initiated in his province . I can only say

Bro . Editor , this continual stirring up of strife tends neither to elevate us in public opinion or private estimation , and unless our brother can excercise a little more charity , brotherly love , and Masonic feeling ; in my opinion it were better by far that he should retire , rather than disturb the harmony of the province . I am Dear Sir and Brother , yours fraternally , OMEGA . London , March 4 th , 1862 .

English And Irish Past Masters.

ENGLISH AND IRISH PAST MASTERS .

TO THE EDITOE OE THE FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIEEOK DEAR SIR AND BROTHER , —Having read your excellent answer to a correspondent in this week's MAGAZINE , relative to P . M . from the Grand Lodge of Ireland . I presume he will not again by inuendo trouble you in my case , and as I now have the satisfaction of publicly stating for his information and others , that I had the

honour of being duly elected , installed , and served as W . M . for two consecutive years , 1839 and 1840 , in St . Andrews Lodge ( No . 25 ) I . C , which has been proved to the entire satisfaction of excellent Masters and Past Masters in Deptford and Greenwich . I wish you would therefore kindly inform me , Sir , if in the absence of the immediate P . M . of Lodge 1173 , of which I am now S . D .,

and a member since its formation , I am entitled to do his duty , being the senior P . M . in the lodge . I am Sir and Brother , yours fraternally , JOHN W . WEIR , P . M . No . 25 , 1 . C . Deptford , March 8 th , 1862 . [ The correspondent did not refer to Bro . Weir at all nor any lodge with which he is connectod . We do not consider that a P . M . of an Irish lodge can claim the right of performing ceremonies in English lodges , though he may by courtesy be allowed to do so . ]

Royal Masonic Institution For Boys.

ROYAL MASONIC INSTITUTION FOR BOYS .

TO THE EDITOE OB THE IRESMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIBEOE . DEAR _ SIR AND BROTHER , —I find that the publication of the lists of contributions at the late Festival , in the manner referred to in my letter to you last week , would encroach so considerably on your space that I have preferred having them printed for circulation in a separate form . Apologising for the trouble I have uselessly

occasioned you , I am , Dear Sir and Brother , yours , fraternally obliged , FREDERICK BINCKES , Secretary . 16 A , Great Queen-street , W . C , March 19 , 1862 .

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