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Lodges of coloured people , pronounced by the American Grand Lodges to be clandestine . " There are some features of this report that are very singular , and would be unaccountable , but for tho fact that a Mason from Hamburgh is unknown in America , and he will continue to be a stranger in this land of charities and Masonic benevolence so long as that unwise body on the continent of Europe , which bears that name , shall persist in the support and countenance of

its subordinates in this jurisdiction . Speaking of the negro lodges , this report says : — " Their origin is unknown . The African Lodge at Boston insists upon having obtained its charter from the Grand Lodge of England ; this is , however , doubtful . According to an assertion of some of our German brethren who have , free of prejudice , visited negro lodges in New York , they could find nothing tending to prevent them to pronounce these lodges just and perfect . " In the first lacehas the Grand

p , Lodge of Hamburgh ever been appealed to by these negro lodges to recognise them ? Not at all ; Hamburgh will not so pretend . What business , then , has that body to be meddling with this matter ? More than three thousand miles away ! None whatever . Do they know of the rejection of a coloured individual by one of our lodges ? Do they know , or have they been informed of the exclusion of a single member of a " coloured lodge " from the doors of a white man's lodge ? Has it been

intimated to Hamburg that all intercourse with coloured Masons has been forbidden ? We present these questions only to show the inconsistency of the pretensions of Hamburgh . And these are the grounds upon which it goes out to the Grand Lodges of Europe with an earnest appeal for the recognition of coloured lodges in this country . And yet , strange as it may appear , there is not the slightest proof—there is not the shadow of evidence that we are obnoxious to one of these charges . And yet

Hamburgh asks the Grand Lodges of Europe to recognise these bodies when it declares their origin is unknown , and their pretensions doubtful . Some of the German brethren have visited these negro lodges in New York . We respectfully submit that the Grand Lodge of Hamburgh is mistaken in this I'articular . No German brother has ever visited one of these lodges . Such a thing cannot he done—for the moment a Mason enters the portals of such a body in New York in the character of a Mason

his panoply of " brother" departs from him . There may be , and doubtless have been , white persons , perhaps Germans , who have visited negro assemblages which were called by the negroes themselves " Masonic lodges ; " but these assemblages bear about the same affinity to a Masonic lodge that a negro clam-bake would bear to the Diet of Worms . Nona hut irregular , clandestine , or expelled Masons visit these bodies of Masons ; the Mason in good standing who should visit one of these bodies

would subject himself to expulsion , and would be expelled as soon as the subject could be brought before his lodge—not so much because the bodj- is made np of coloured men , though this would cause a suspicion of his orthodoxy , but because there is not , and never has been , a negro lodge of Masons , in the State of New York , deriving authority from a regular Grand Lodge . A moment's reflection will convince any Mason that such a body cannot be visited without a violation of the most solemn

obligations . The Grand Lodges of Europe are supposed to be without prejudice to the coloured race , ancl are therefore asked to recognise these bodies ! Extravagant credulity ! Can it be possible that Hamburgh believes the other Grand Lodges of Em-ope will recognise negro lodges and Grand Lodges solely because theiv members have dark skins ? This idea presupposes an affection for the coloured race on the part ofthe European Grand Lodges

which would trample upon Masonic obligations to be gratified . Those bodies cannot commit , nor permit their members to commit so great a crime . There must be some other evidences furnished those Grand Lodges of tho regularity of these negro lodges before they will acknowledge them ; ancl when they come to seek for this evidence it will he entirely wanting . We are , however , forestalling Bro . Von Mcusch in these remarks , and we must allow him to be heard in a matter in which

he has taken so active and honourable a part , His first official communication on the subject was made to the Grand Lodge of Saxony , at its meeting on the 17 th of October last , and is as follows : "—[ Then follow three reports made to the Grand Lodge of Saxony , by R . W . ¥ . A . Von Meusch , Representative of the Grand ' Lodge of New York near that body ; tho first at the meeting of Oct . 11 , 1 S 5 S ; the second at the meeting of January 5 , 1858 ( 1850 ?) ; and the third at the meeting of April G , lSoii .

Our space will not permit us to insert them entire . We therefore present the following synopsis of the line of argument adapted by him . In the first report , he states that the Grand Lodge at Hamburgh requests the Grand Lodge at Saxony to give their views upon these points : 1 . The recognition of the Grand Lodge of the negro republic of Liberia , in Africa ; and

2 . The recognition of a National Grand Lodge , ancl of Grand Lodges of coloured men in the United States , which are considered by the Grand Lodges of the latter country as irregular . Bro . Meusch premises that , under the appellation of coloured men , tho Grand Lodge of Hamburgh does not mean the American aborigines , the Indians , hut those individuals in whose veins , to use a common expression , flows African blood—negroes and miilattoes . He then , in the name of the Grand Lodge of

New York , and as the representative of that body of Masons , formally protests against the recognition of visitors from such , in tho lodges under her jurisdiction . He calls to the remembrance of the Grand Lodge , the position which the Grand Lodge of Hamburgh occupies to the Grand Lodges of the United States . That the latter have ceased all fraternal relations with the former , in consequence of her invasion of the jurisdiction of the Grand Lodge of New Yorkbthe establishment

, y of two subordinate lodges within the jurisdiction of the latter , the members of which comprise citizens of the United States , of German origin ; and that the Grand Lodge of Hamburgh persists in this invasion , and is in a state of hostility , in consequence , to the American Grand Lodges . He alleges that in the United States the free coloured men stand on the lowest rounds of the social ladder , and , generally speaking , of mental development ; and that in the non-slave-holding states they enjoy

protection ; but from higher considerations , no political ancl civil rights ancl privileges . That the Craft of Freemasonry presupposes w-ith its members not only a certain conformity of inner and outer culture , full independence in the position of life , the unimpaired possession of public rights , but also an intellectual equality , and the capacity of reciprocity of Masonic obligations . He alleges that the initiation of colored men in the American lodges would not fail , besides , to produce between the brethren

of the Northern and Southern States of the Union dissensions and discord , ancl the interests of the entire country would infallibly be heavily compromised . That it is the duty of the loyal citizen to respect and to protect the political organisation ofthe fatherland , and it would ill suit the old , venerable , and true Order of Freemasons should they , by violating the laws of the land , disturb by its actions tho order ancl peace of the country . That Masonic interests will always and everywhere he

subordinate to the welfare of the State ; and arrives at the conclusion that Masonic rights and public duty require that the Grand Lodges in the United States should not only firmly support the lav / respecting the interdiction of more than one Grand Lodge in each State , which excludes also the coloured Grand Lodges , hut also the constitutional declaration of incapacity of coloured men to he initiated into the Order . He also alleges that these negro lodges do not possess valid charters .

In his second report , Bro . Von Meusch further elaborates these views , and fully investigates the claims of Prince Hale Lodge , or Grand Lodge , whichever it may be called ; and shows that it is a spurious organisation . From his third report , we learn that the Grand Lodge of Hamburgh , has postponed the consideration of such recognition , which was to have been had in February , until her quarterly meeting in May . He also states that such German Grand Lodges as have acted on these

propositions have given only evasive answers—they recognise coloured lodges , provided they are just and perfect , that is , legitimate ; and that the Grand Lodge of Hanover has already given her vote to the effect that , she does not recognise these bodies , at this time , as just and perfect . He reiterates the views presented in his former reports , and alleges that the Grand Lodge of England , and the European Continental Grand Lodges , in general , respect tho American right and law , as well as the the

Americnn Grand Lodges on their part are wont to honour foreign rights ancl usages . Bro . King further says , in the notice of these reports , " It may not he improper to mention that , aside from the reports above copied from Bro . Meusch , we have learned through private sources , there is a disposition on the part of the Grand Lodge of Hamburgh to invite the coloured lodges to recognise her as the Mother Grand Lodge , in the quality of daughter lodges and Provincial Grand Lodges . This , of course , would avail nothing

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MOTHER KILWINNING.—No. I. Article 1
A ROMAN CATHOLIC'S NOTION OF FREEMASONRY. Article 2
BRITISH ARCHITECTS. Article 5
THE PATH OF LIFE. —AN ALLEGORY. Article 6
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 9
THE PARIS UNIVERSAL AND PERMANENT EXHIBITION. Article 12
CASES OF EMERGENCY. Article 12
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 13
THE MOUNT CALVARY ENCAMPMENT. Article 13
THE MASONIC MIRROR. Article 14
PROVINCIAL. Article 14
AUSTRALIA. Article 14
CANADA. Article 15
AMERICA. Article 16
ROYAL ARCH. Article 16
MARK MASONRY. Article 17
Poetry. Article 17
TO A YOUNG MASON WHO DECLARED HE SAW NO BEAUTY IN NATURE. Article 17
Obituary. Article 17
FREEMASONS AT LAW. Article 18
THE WEEK. Article 19
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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Masonic Notes And Queries.

Lodges of coloured people , pronounced by the American Grand Lodges to be clandestine . " There are some features of this report that are very singular , and would be unaccountable , but for tho fact that a Mason from Hamburgh is unknown in America , and he will continue to be a stranger in this land of charities and Masonic benevolence so long as that unwise body on the continent of Europe , which bears that name , shall persist in the support and countenance of

its subordinates in this jurisdiction . Speaking of the negro lodges , this report says : — " Their origin is unknown . The African Lodge at Boston insists upon having obtained its charter from the Grand Lodge of England ; this is , however , doubtful . According to an assertion of some of our German brethren who have , free of prejudice , visited negro lodges in New York , they could find nothing tending to prevent them to pronounce these lodges just and perfect . " In the first lacehas the Grand

p , Lodge of Hamburgh ever been appealed to by these negro lodges to recognise them ? Not at all ; Hamburgh will not so pretend . What business , then , has that body to be meddling with this matter ? More than three thousand miles away ! None whatever . Do they know of the rejection of a coloured individual by one of our lodges ? Do they know , or have they been informed of the exclusion of a single member of a " coloured lodge " from the doors of a white man's lodge ? Has it been

intimated to Hamburg that all intercourse with coloured Masons has been forbidden ? We present these questions only to show the inconsistency of the pretensions of Hamburgh . And these are the grounds upon which it goes out to the Grand Lodges of Europe with an earnest appeal for the recognition of coloured lodges in this country . And yet , strange as it may appear , there is not the slightest proof—there is not the shadow of evidence that we are obnoxious to one of these charges . And yet

Hamburgh asks the Grand Lodges of Europe to recognise these bodies when it declares their origin is unknown , and their pretensions doubtful . Some of the German brethren have visited these negro lodges in New York . We respectfully submit that the Grand Lodge of Hamburgh is mistaken in this I'articular . No German brother has ever visited one of these lodges . Such a thing cannot he done—for the moment a Mason enters the portals of such a body in New York in the character of a Mason

his panoply of " brother" departs from him . There may be , and doubtless have been , white persons , perhaps Germans , who have visited negro assemblages which were called by the negroes themselves " Masonic lodges ; " but these assemblages bear about the same affinity to a Masonic lodge that a negro clam-bake would bear to the Diet of Worms . Nona hut irregular , clandestine , or expelled Masons visit these bodies of Masons ; the Mason in good standing who should visit one of these bodies

would subject himself to expulsion , and would be expelled as soon as the subject could be brought before his lodge—not so much because the bodj- is made np of coloured men , though this would cause a suspicion of his orthodoxy , but because there is not , and never has been , a negro lodge of Masons , in the State of New York , deriving authority from a regular Grand Lodge . A moment's reflection will convince any Mason that such a body cannot be visited without a violation of the most solemn

obligations . The Grand Lodges of Europe are supposed to be without prejudice to the coloured race , ancl are therefore asked to recognise these bodies ! Extravagant credulity ! Can it be possible that Hamburgh believes the other Grand Lodges of Em-ope will recognise negro lodges and Grand Lodges solely because theiv members have dark skins ? This idea presupposes an affection for the coloured race on the part ofthe European Grand Lodges

which would trample upon Masonic obligations to be gratified . Those bodies cannot commit , nor permit their members to commit so great a crime . There must be some other evidences furnished those Grand Lodges of tho regularity of these negro lodges before they will acknowledge them ; ancl when they come to seek for this evidence it will he entirely wanting . We are , however , forestalling Bro . Von Mcusch in these remarks , and we must allow him to be heard in a matter in which

he has taken so active and honourable a part , His first official communication on the subject was made to the Grand Lodge of Saxony , at its meeting on the 17 th of October last , and is as follows : "—[ Then follow three reports made to the Grand Lodge of Saxony , by R . W . ¥ . A . Von Meusch , Representative of the Grand ' Lodge of New York near that body ; tho first at the meeting of Oct . 11 , 1 S 5 S ; the second at the meeting of January 5 , 1858 ( 1850 ?) ; and the third at the meeting of April G , lSoii .

Our space will not permit us to insert them entire . We therefore present the following synopsis of the line of argument adapted by him . In the first report , he states that the Grand Lodge at Hamburgh requests the Grand Lodge at Saxony to give their views upon these points : 1 . The recognition of the Grand Lodge of the negro republic of Liberia , in Africa ; and

2 . The recognition of a National Grand Lodge , ancl of Grand Lodges of coloured men in the United States , which are considered by the Grand Lodges of the latter country as irregular . Bro . Meusch premises that , under the appellation of coloured men , tho Grand Lodge of Hamburgh does not mean the American aborigines , the Indians , hut those individuals in whose veins , to use a common expression , flows African blood—negroes and miilattoes . He then , in the name of the Grand Lodge of

New York , and as the representative of that body of Masons , formally protests against the recognition of visitors from such , in tho lodges under her jurisdiction . He calls to the remembrance of the Grand Lodge , the position which the Grand Lodge of Hamburgh occupies to the Grand Lodges of the United States . That the latter have ceased all fraternal relations with the former , in consequence of her invasion of the jurisdiction of the Grand Lodge of New Yorkbthe establishment

, y of two subordinate lodges within the jurisdiction of the latter , the members of which comprise citizens of the United States , of German origin ; and that the Grand Lodge of Hamburgh persists in this invasion , and is in a state of hostility , in consequence , to the American Grand Lodges . He alleges that in the United States the free coloured men stand on the lowest rounds of the social ladder , and , generally speaking , of mental development ; and that in the non-slave-holding states they enjoy

protection ; but from higher considerations , no political ancl civil rights ancl privileges . That the Craft of Freemasonry presupposes w-ith its members not only a certain conformity of inner and outer culture , full independence in the position of life , the unimpaired possession of public rights , but also an intellectual equality , and the capacity of reciprocity of Masonic obligations . He alleges that the initiation of colored men in the American lodges would not fail , besides , to produce between the brethren

of the Northern and Southern States of the Union dissensions and discord , ancl the interests of the entire country would infallibly be heavily compromised . That it is the duty of the loyal citizen to respect and to protect the political organisation ofthe fatherland , and it would ill suit the old , venerable , and true Order of Freemasons should they , by violating the laws of the land , disturb by its actions tho order ancl peace of the country . That Masonic interests will always and everywhere he

subordinate to the welfare of the State ; and arrives at the conclusion that Masonic rights and public duty require that the Grand Lodges in the United States should not only firmly support the lav / respecting the interdiction of more than one Grand Lodge in each State , which excludes also the coloured Grand Lodges , hut also the constitutional declaration of incapacity of coloured men to he initiated into the Order . He also alleges that these negro lodges do not possess valid charters .

In his second report , Bro . Von Meusch further elaborates these views , and fully investigates the claims of Prince Hale Lodge , or Grand Lodge , whichever it may be called ; and shows that it is a spurious organisation . From his third report , we learn that the Grand Lodge of Hamburgh , has postponed the consideration of such recognition , which was to have been had in February , until her quarterly meeting in May . He also states that such German Grand Lodges as have acted on these

propositions have given only evasive answers—they recognise coloured lodges , provided they are just and perfect , that is , legitimate ; and that the Grand Lodge of Hanover has already given her vote to the effect that , she does not recognise these bodies , at this time , as just and perfect . He reiterates the views presented in his former reports , and alleges that the Grand Lodge of England , and the European Continental Grand Lodges , in general , respect tho American right and law , as well as the the

Americnn Grand Lodges on their part are wont to honour foreign rights ancl usages . Bro . King further says , in the notice of these reports , " It may not he improper to mention that , aside from the reports above copied from Bro . Meusch , we have learned through private sources , there is a disposition on the part of the Grand Lodge of Hamburgh to invite the coloured lodges to recognise her as the Mother Grand Lodge , in the quality of daughter lodges and Provincial Grand Lodges . This , of course , would avail nothing

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