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The Week.

of Clanricarde for returns of the expenses of commissioners in Ireland . There was a short conversation in reference to the Book of Common Prayer ; and , finally , there *>« rome interesting debate in reference to the business in the Court of Chancery and the appellate business of the House of Lords . 0 , 1 the 15 th inst . the Royal assent was given by commission to several

bills . Subsequently there were discussions in reference to the march of the troops from Hounslow the other day , and as to the troops in New Zealand . The Hounslow mismanagement has , it seems , been fixed on a commissariat officer , who has been removed from his post . It seems that the Reform Bill is not to pass through the House of Lords without some opposition . It was

read a first time on the 16 th inst ., and Lord Derby proposed to take the second reading on Monday next . If the debate on the second reading did not extend beyond Monday night , he should propose to take the committee on the following Friday . If the hill , however , should not be read a second time on the Monday , he should propose to take the committee on the Monday

following . Earl Grey urged that the latter day should be fixed for the committee . He did not intend to oppose tbe second reading , but he did intend to ask the House to concur in a resolution that the bill as it stands is bad , and ought not to be passed into law without amendment . He added that he had reason to believe that he should receive considerable support for this

amendment , and that there would be a good deal of discussion . Lord Derby , however , thought what he proposed would meet the requirements of the case . The other business in the House was unimportant . In the HOUSE OV Comioxs , on the 11 th inst ., Lord Stanley gave a very wise answer to a very foolish question . Sir L . Palk wished to know whether the Government intended to bring forward any motion on the subject of the execution of Maximilian . Lord Stanley replied that they did

not . In the discussion of such a motion the much wider question of the Mexican expedition must come under consideration , and the circumstances connected with it might tend very materially to modify their opinion as to the execution of Maximilian . Mr . Otway wished to know if diplomatic relations with Mexico were to be broken off . Lord Stanley pointed out that the Secretary of Legation now in Mexico was accredited to the Empire . He

had received instructions , in case of the overthrow of the Empire , not to recognise officially any other Government until directed to do so . His lordship added that it mattered nothing to the Mexicans whether we had a representative in Mexico ; but it mattered a great deal to British subjects , seeing that the representative was continually employed in making claims ou

the Mexican Government on behalf of British subjects . To withdraw him , then , would be to punish British subjects , not the Mexican Government . On the 12 th inst ., at the morning sitting , Mr . Charles Forster proposed to suspend the standing orders for the purpose of reading the London , Chatham , and Dover Arrangements Bill a third time . To this proposition

Mr . T . Hughes objected , and moved that the hill he referred back to tho committee , to insert a clause reserving tho rights and priorities of certain holders of mortgages or bonds charged or secured on tho undertaking . Mr . Basil Woodd must say , as chairman of tho committeo , that he considered tho proposition of Mr . Hughes a most extraordinary ono . Of course , under the

circumstances , Mr . Hughes ' s proposal was negatived , and Mr . Forstor's motion was agreed to . —Mr . J . S . Mill announced his intention to inquire of tho Foreign Secretary whether tho British naval officer engaged to reorganise tho Turkish navy has retired from hor Majesty ' s service ; and if not , whether his employment for such a purpose is not inconsistent with tho principle of nonintervention . This remark called forth loud and general cries of ' Hear , hear . " —Lord Stanley intimated , in reply to a question

I from Mr . Sandford , that a communication had boon mado by her Majesty ' s Government to tho Government of Portugal respecting tho proposal of that Government to sell tho South Eastern of Portugal Railway , hut a decisive answer had not boon received . —Lord R . Montagu announced that directions had been given by Government for tho preparation of an order authorising tha removal of accumulations of manure in the metropolis , under

certain conditions . —Mr . Hardy , in reply to Mr . Sarnuelson , avowed that tho members of tho Trades' Union Commission had a right to exclude or admit any person they like to tho place where they conduct their inquiry , and consequently they had . full power to turn out Mr . Conolly for speaking disparagingly of so prominent a member of their body as Mr . Roebuck . That

hon . gentleman then claimed to be heard , and avowed that he . had been all his life " an honourable man ; " that Mr . Conolly had cast an imputation upon his untarnished reputation , and » - therefore , he felt that it was impossible that he and Mr . Conolly should sit at the same time in the same apartment . To retain- , the presence amongst them of Mr . Roebuck , the

commissionershad uo alternative but to order Mr . Conolly to retire . —The . House then proceeded to consider as amended the Bill for tbe-Reform of the Representation of the People . Mr . H . Berkeley moved a clause providing that the voting should be by printed papers ; in fact , in another shape , it was a renewal of the hon . gentleman ' s proposal for the introduction of vote by ballot . A .

brief discussion took place , which ended in the motion beingrejected by 161 votes to 112 . Various other amendments were proposed . Some were adopted , and the others either withdrawn , or negatived . The consideration of the bill lasted until ten ; minutes to seven , and had not then finished . The Chancellor of the Exchequer therefore announced that he should ask . leave to proceed with the bill at the evening sitting .

At the evening sitting the consideration of the bill was resumed . Various amendments were agreed to , the most noteworthy being one moved by Mr . Lowther to strikeout of the bill the words which had been introduced at the instance of Mr . Card well , to prevent residents in the Universities of Oxford and Cambridge from voting at the eleccion of members

for the cities . This amendment was carried by 145 votes to 84 .. The whole of amendments were disposed of by half-past eleven .. On the 15 th inst . there was a good deal of animation , owing to the first order of the clay being the third reading of ' the Reform Bill . Before that could be taken , however , a large number of questions were asked , and notices of motion

given--Mr . Fawcett gave notice of a question as to tbe proposed ball to the Sultan . Sir Stafford Northcote , in reply to Colonel Sykes ,, denied that there was any truth iu the report that troops had- , been ordered from Bombay to Abysiniuia . The Government woro engaged in a correspondence which thoy hoped would bring about tho release of tho prisoners . —Colonel Knox made a com-

plaint ol tho insufficient accommodation provided for thosemembers of tho Houso who wished to soe tho Naval Review on ,, Wednesday . Ho was replied to by Mr . Cony , who , being pressed ! by Mr . B . Osborne , announced that provision had been made forluncheon for tho members who might go to soe the review . — On tho motion for tho third reading of tho Reform Bill ,

Viscount-Craubourno said ho had no intention of requiring a division on tho bill . Ho denied that tho bill , if it passed , would bo a Conservative triumph . Ho complained that all the precautions and socu- - rities which tho bill provided when originally introduced had been thrown aside at tho bidding of Liberal members , and that , almost tho wholo of the demands mado by Mr . Gladstone on tho

second reading of tho bill had boon conceded . No minister of tho . Crown had given any reasonable explanation of the motives for tho tremendous changes that had been made in tho bill . At somo <

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THE ORDER OF ST. JOHN. Article 1
ORATION DELIVERED AT THE QUARTERLY MEETING OF THE PROVINCIAL GRAND LODGE OF WEST YORKSHIRE. Article 2
CERTAYNE QUESTYONS, with ANSWERES Article 4
A GLOSSARY OF ANTIQUATED WORDS IN THE FOREGOING MANUSCRIlPT. Article 5
THE SWORD OF THE KNIGHT TEMPLAR. Article 6
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES, Article 9
Untitled Article 10
MASONIC MEMS. Article 10
PROVINCIAL. Article 10
CHANNEL ISLANDS. Article 12
AMERICA. Article 13
ROYAL ARCH. Article 15
MARK MASONRY. Article 15
KNIGHTS TEMPLAR. Article 16
MASONIC FESTIVITIES. Article 16
REVIEWS. Article 17
THE WEEK. Article 17
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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The Week.

of Clanricarde for returns of the expenses of commissioners in Ireland . There was a short conversation in reference to the Book of Common Prayer ; and , finally , there *>« rome interesting debate in reference to the business in the Court of Chancery and the appellate business of the House of Lords . 0 , 1 the 15 th inst . the Royal assent was given by commission to several

bills . Subsequently there were discussions in reference to the march of the troops from Hounslow the other day , and as to the troops in New Zealand . The Hounslow mismanagement has , it seems , been fixed on a commissariat officer , who has been removed from his post . It seems that the Reform Bill is not to pass through the House of Lords without some opposition . It was

read a first time on the 16 th inst ., and Lord Derby proposed to take the second reading on Monday next . If the debate on the second reading did not extend beyond Monday night , he should propose to take the committee on the following Friday . If the hill , however , should not be read a second time on the Monday , he should propose to take the committee on the Monday

following . Earl Grey urged that the latter day should be fixed for the committee . He did not intend to oppose tbe second reading , but he did intend to ask the House to concur in a resolution that the bill as it stands is bad , and ought not to be passed into law without amendment . He added that he had reason to believe that he should receive considerable support for this

amendment , and that there would be a good deal of discussion . Lord Derby , however , thought what he proposed would meet the requirements of the case . The other business in the House was unimportant . In the HOUSE OV Comioxs , on the 11 th inst ., Lord Stanley gave a very wise answer to a very foolish question . Sir L . Palk wished to know whether the Government intended to bring forward any motion on the subject of the execution of Maximilian . Lord Stanley replied that they did

not . In the discussion of such a motion the much wider question of the Mexican expedition must come under consideration , and the circumstances connected with it might tend very materially to modify their opinion as to the execution of Maximilian . Mr . Otway wished to know if diplomatic relations with Mexico were to be broken off . Lord Stanley pointed out that the Secretary of Legation now in Mexico was accredited to the Empire . He

had received instructions , in case of the overthrow of the Empire , not to recognise officially any other Government until directed to do so . His lordship added that it mattered nothing to the Mexicans whether we had a representative in Mexico ; but it mattered a great deal to British subjects , seeing that the representative was continually employed in making claims ou

the Mexican Government on behalf of British subjects . To withdraw him , then , would be to punish British subjects , not the Mexican Government . On the 12 th inst ., at the morning sitting , Mr . Charles Forster proposed to suspend the standing orders for the purpose of reading the London , Chatham , and Dover Arrangements Bill a third time . To this proposition

Mr . T . Hughes objected , and moved that the hill he referred back to tho committee , to insert a clause reserving tho rights and priorities of certain holders of mortgages or bonds charged or secured on tho undertaking . Mr . Basil Woodd must say , as chairman of tho committeo , that he considered tho proposition of Mr . Hughes a most extraordinary ono . Of course , under the

circumstances , Mr . Hughes ' s proposal was negatived , and Mr . Forstor's motion was agreed to . —Mr . J . S . Mill announced his intention to inquire of tho Foreign Secretary whether tho British naval officer engaged to reorganise tho Turkish navy has retired from hor Majesty ' s service ; and if not , whether his employment for such a purpose is not inconsistent with tho principle of nonintervention . This remark called forth loud and general cries of ' Hear , hear . " —Lord Stanley intimated , in reply to a question

I from Mr . Sandford , that a communication had boon mado by her Majesty ' s Government to tho Government of Portugal respecting tho proposal of that Government to sell tho South Eastern of Portugal Railway , hut a decisive answer had not boon received . —Lord R . Montagu announced that directions had been given by Government for tho preparation of an order authorising tha removal of accumulations of manure in the metropolis , under

certain conditions . —Mr . Hardy , in reply to Mr . Sarnuelson , avowed that tho members of tho Trades' Union Commission had a right to exclude or admit any person they like to tho place where they conduct their inquiry , and consequently they had . full power to turn out Mr . Conolly for speaking disparagingly of so prominent a member of their body as Mr . Roebuck . That

hon . gentleman then claimed to be heard , and avowed that he . had been all his life " an honourable man ; " that Mr . Conolly had cast an imputation upon his untarnished reputation , and » - therefore , he felt that it was impossible that he and Mr . Conolly should sit at the same time in the same apartment . To retain- , the presence amongst them of Mr . Roebuck , the

commissionershad uo alternative but to order Mr . Conolly to retire . —The . House then proceeded to consider as amended the Bill for tbe-Reform of the Representation of the People . Mr . H . Berkeley moved a clause providing that the voting should be by printed papers ; in fact , in another shape , it was a renewal of the hon . gentleman ' s proposal for the introduction of vote by ballot . A .

brief discussion took place , which ended in the motion beingrejected by 161 votes to 112 . Various other amendments were proposed . Some were adopted , and the others either withdrawn , or negatived . The consideration of the bill lasted until ten ; minutes to seven , and had not then finished . The Chancellor of the Exchequer therefore announced that he should ask . leave to proceed with the bill at the evening sitting .

At the evening sitting the consideration of the bill was resumed . Various amendments were agreed to , the most noteworthy being one moved by Mr . Lowther to strikeout of the bill the words which had been introduced at the instance of Mr . Card well , to prevent residents in the Universities of Oxford and Cambridge from voting at the eleccion of members

for the cities . This amendment was carried by 145 votes to 84 .. The whole of amendments were disposed of by half-past eleven .. On the 15 th inst . there was a good deal of animation , owing to the first order of the clay being the third reading of ' the Reform Bill . Before that could be taken , however , a large number of questions were asked , and notices of motion

given--Mr . Fawcett gave notice of a question as to tbe proposed ball to the Sultan . Sir Stafford Northcote , in reply to Colonel Sykes ,, denied that there was any truth iu the report that troops had- , been ordered from Bombay to Abysiniuia . The Government woro engaged in a correspondence which thoy hoped would bring about tho release of tho prisoners . —Colonel Knox made a com-

plaint ol tho insufficient accommodation provided for thosemembers of tho Houso who wished to soe tho Naval Review on ,, Wednesday . Ho was replied to by Mr . Cony , who , being pressed ! by Mr . B . Osborne , announced that provision had been made forluncheon for tho members who might go to soe the review . — On tho motion for tho third reading of tho Reform Bill ,

Viscount-Craubourno said ho had no intention of requiring a division on tho bill . Ho denied that tho bill , if it passed , would bo a Conservative triumph . Ho complained that all the precautions and socu- - rities which tho bill provided when originally introduced had been thrown aside at tho bidding of Liberal members , and that , almost tho wholo of the demands mado by Mr . Gladstone on tho

second reading of tho bill had boon conceded . No minister of tho . Crown had given any reasonable explanation of the motives for tho tremendous changes that had been made in tho bill . At somo <

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