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Correspondence.

CORRESPONDENCE .

The Editor is not responsible for the opinions expressed by Correspondents . LODGE AVORKING . TO THE EDITOR OF TUT . FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIRROR . DflAB SIR AXD BROTHER , —In your answer to "Beta , " of the 5 th instant , you hold that , in the absence of tho AV . M . or a P . M ., under the English Constitution , a

Warden not being an installed Master can perform the ceremonies . If I understand the Constitution rightly , it is the bounden duty of the immediate P . M . to take the chair in the absence or incompetency of the AV . M . If both be absent , then the senior P . M . of the loclge present . ( See the latter part of Rule YI . p . 72 , Constitution 1855 . )

The AVardeus can rule and superintend , or summons the lodge , but not take the chair to perform tbe ceremonies if they have not been duly installed into the Past Master ' s degree . See Rule I . p . 71 , wherein it is strictly laid down that " No Master Elect shall assume the Master ' s chair until he shall have been regularly installed . " Wardens not Past Masters cannot give the degree , but they may rule the lodge .

As regards the explanation of the working tools and dolivery of charges in the different degrees by Wardens in open lodge , are they nob a portion of the duty of the W . M . ; and only to be delivered from the chair , or by a P . M . ? There are so many new-fangled movements introduced into the working of lodges in this neighbourhood , and important matters omitted , which causes great

confusion and discussions respecting which is right and which is wrong ; and gives rise to the question , Are the ancient landmarks to bo maintained , or let it be called modern , and leave off our important word ancient ? There are many other matters of importance in the working of lodges which ought to be noticed , but I will not trouble you at present .

By your replying to the above in your next publication you will much oblige , Yours truly and fraternally , P . M . [ AVe have maturely considered all the points alluded to by our correspondent , ancl adhere to our opinion that , in the absence of tbe AA . M . or a P . M ., a AVarden may perform the duties of the chair , sitting to tho right of the pedestal . As to the delivery of addresses by the Wardens , we see no impropriety in their doing so if called on by the AV . M . to assist him . —ED . ]

Colonial Boards Of General Purposes.

COLONIAL BOARDS OF GENERAL PURPOSES .

TO THE IDITOR OF THE FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC UIKHOE . DEAR SIR AND BROTHER , —I have been asked to answer the following , extracted from a letter received by last mail , from a correspondent at Sydney , N . S . AV ., viz .: — "Would you allow me to ask of your assistance in Masonic ruling . Our District Grand Lodge has not a board constituted as clause 8 Grand Lod

Conper , ge stitutions . I gave notice in the . . District Grand Lodge for the appointment of such board , and there were a number of the brethren who thought that the clause had no reference to us , being in a colony ; and in fact , as I understood from some , the Grand Lodge rules were no guide for a District Grand Lodge . If you would please give me your opinion , or some authority to enable me to establish

the board in proper form , I shall be extremely thankful , as well as the other question . "—( Signed ) D . E . You will kindly favour me by answering the foregoing , and oblige , Yours fraternally , R . SPENCER . Masonic Depot , 26 , Great Queen-street . [ The clause referred to is only for the guidance of the

Grand Lodge of England ; and , desirable as it might be to have Boards of General Purposes in large colonial districts , the Book of Constitutions gives no authorit y for their formation . ]

The Boys' School.

THE BOYS' SCHOOL .

TO THE EDITOR OF THE FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIRROR . DEAR SIR AND BROTHER , —Allow me to call your attention to the new arrangement to be adopted at the next election to the Masonic Institution for Boys . I am sure it is a mistake to limit a subscriber to one vote , when there are eight hoys to be elected out of twenty-six applicants . I wish to vote for two of the applicants , or to make the case stronger for the eight . How can I do this ? Yours fraternally , MASONIC .

Masonic Charity.

MASONIC CHARITY .

TO THE EDITOR OF TIIE FREEMASONS * MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIRROR . DEAR SIR AND BROTHER , —The balance-sheet of Lodge-No . 600 being now public property , it must be open forany one to demand an explanation of its various items ,, or to make such remarks as its extraordinary charactermay merit . AVhen Lodge No . 600 takes " the unprecedented course of blowing its trumpet in your columns ,

and of saying to the Masonic world , " take a pattern from our model lodge—look at the array of charity we can boast of—follow our new system—add to your funds under any pretence , aud confine your favours to yourown locality "—it naturally excites a , feeling of investigation to see how far these new-fangled notions are consistent with Freemasonry , and whether instead of

Masoniccharity there is only " sounding brass , or a tinklingcymhal . " Let Lodge No . 600 explain under what known regulation it divides its funds as in Table No . 1 , and . say if it has a by-law for tbis purpose , or if a simplevote of its lodge can dispose of the whole in any way it chooses—whether , in fact , the division has any existence but on paper , and the funds could not be used for any , all , or none of the " institutions ; " in short , if

tho whole table ( excepting the sum total ) is not a myth . Again , let Lodge No . 600 explain Table No . 2 , by saying if the amounts voted for each year under theheading "institutions connected with the lodge , " are-¦ used for the purposes named , or what part of such sums has been so applied , and if the remainder goes back to > the general fund .

Again , let Lodge No . 600 explain why the real Masonic-Institutions are not named in its balance-sheet—why the poor , the lame , the deaf , the blind , the widow and orphan of the general brotherhood meet with no succour or support from its funds , or why local claims should subvert Masonic obligations , or why Lodge No . 600-should not be enrolled under the Friendly Society's Act .

Again , let Lodge No . 600 explain as to its membershow many are foreign and non-resident ; what is theaverage attendance of its own members at lodge meetings ; bow often Provincial Grand Lodge has been held under its banner , and the dates ; how many of its members have held provincial office , and the dates ; also if it has a chapter , and what is its condition . Again , let Lodge No . 600 explain if any of its membersare returned as " subscribins members , " without the

payment of any subscription by such members , for the purpose of enabling them , if need be , to become recipients of the real Benevolent or Annuity Funds , and their children inmates of the schools ; and if any of its members so returned have taken advantage of that arrangement . Lodge No . 600 need not explain tho addendas to its

balance-sheet , which boasts of a sum paid in the namo of the lodge , though not out of the lodge funds , to the distressed operatives , and which looks , along with tho subscriptions to the local institutions , so like a bait to catch popularity and members that ib is better let alone . AVhen these explanations are forthcoming , we may bo able to draw such conclusions as shall lace Lodge No .

p 600 in its proper position as a Freemasons' lodge , and see what claims it has to rank as such . I am , yours truly and fraternally , INVESTIGATOR .

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THE RIGHTS OF VISITORS AND MASONIC TRIALS. Article 1
"LE MONDE MACONNIQUE" AND "THE FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE." Article 3
THE MYSTICAL PRINCIPLES OF ISLAMISM; OR, A LECTURE ON THE DERVICHES. Article 4
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 7
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 12
COLONIAL BOARDS OF GENERAL PURPOSES. Article 12
THE BOYS' SCHOOL. Article 12
MASONIC CHARITY. Article 12
THE MASONIC MIRROR. Article 13
METROPOLITAN. Article 13
PROVINCIAL. Article 13
INDIA. Article 16
PUBLIC AMUSEMENTS. Article 17
THE WEEK. Article 18
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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Correspondence.

CORRESPONDENCE .

The Editor is not responsible for the opinions expressed by Correspondents . LODGE AVORKING . TO THE EDITOR OF TUT . FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIRROR . DflAB SIR AXD BROTHER , —In your answer to "Beta , " of the 5 th instant , you hold that , in the absence of tho AV . M . or a P . M ., under the English Constitution , a

Warden not being an installed Master can perform the ceremonies . If I understand the Constitution rightly , it is the bounden duty of the immediate P . M . to take the chair in the absence or incompetency of the AV . M . If both be absent , then the senior P . M . of the loclge present . ( See the latter part of Rule YI . p . 72 , Constitution 1855 . )

The AVardeus can rule and superintend , or summons the lodge , but not take the chair to perform tbe ceremonies if they have not been duly installed into the Past Master ' s degree . See Rule I . p . 71 , wherein it is strictly laid down that " No Master Elect shall assume the Master ' s chair until he shall have been regularly installed . " Wardens not Past Masters cannot give the degree , but they may rule the lodge .

As regards the explanation of the working tools and dolivery of charges in the different degrees by Wardens in open lodge , are they nob a portion of the duty of the W . M . ; and only to be delivered from the chair , or by a P . M . ? There are so many new-fangled movements introduced into the working of lodges in this neighbourhood , and important matters omitted , which causes great

confusion and discussions respecting which is right and which is wrong ; and gives rise to the question , Are the ancient landmarks to bo maintained , or let it be called modern , and leave off our important word ancient ? There are many other matters of importance in the working of lodges which ought to be noticed , but I will not trouble you at present .

By your replying to the above in your next publication you will much oblige , Yours truly and fraternally , P . M . [ AVe have maturely considered all the points alluded to by our correspondent , ancl adhere to our opinion that , in the absence of tbe AA . M . or a P . M ., a AVarden may perform the duties of the chair , sitting to tho right of the pedestal . As to the delivery of addresses by the Wardens , we see no impropriety in their doing so if called on by the AV . M . to assist him . —ED . ]

Colonial Boards Of General Purposes.

COLONIAL BOARDS OF GENERAL PURPOSES .

TO THE IDITOR OF THE FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC UIKHOE . DEAR SIR AND BROTHER , —I have been asked to answer the following , extracted from a letter received by last mail , from a correspondent at Sydney , N . S . AV ., viz .: — "Would you allow me to ask of your assistance in Masonic ruling . Our District Grand Lodge has not a board constituted as clause 8 Grand Lod

Conper , ge stitutions . I gave notice in the . . District Grand Lodge for the appointment of such board , and there were a number of the brethren who thought that the clause had no reference to us , being in a colony ; and in fact , as I understood from some , the Grand Lodge rules were no guide for a District Grand Lodge . If you would please give me your opinion , or some authority to enable me to establish

the board in proper form , I shall be extremely thankful , as well as the other question . "—( Signed ) D . E . You will kindly favour me by answering the foregoing , and oblige , Yours fraternally , R . SPENCER . Masonic Depot , 26 , Great Queen-street . [ The clause referred to is only for the guidance of the

Grand Lodge of England ; and , desirable as it might be to have Boards of General Purposes in large colonial districts , the Book of Constitutions gives no authorit y for their formation . ]

The Boys' School.

THE BOYS' SCHOOL .

TO THE EDITOR OF THE FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIRROR . DEAR SIR AND BROTHER , —Allow me to call your attention to the new arrangement to be adopted at the next election to the Masonic Institution for Boys . I am sure it is a mistake to limit a subscriber to one vote , when there are eight hoys to be elected out of twenty-six applicants . I wish to vote for two of the applicants , or to make the case stronger for the eight . How can I do this ? Yours fraternally , MASONIC .

Masonic Charity.

MASONIC CHARITY .

TO THE EDITOR OF TIIE FREEMASONS * MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIRROR . DEAR SIR AND BROTHER , —The balance-sheet of Lodge-No . 600 being now public property , it must be open forany one to demand an explanation of its various items ,, or to make such remarks as its extraordinary charactermay merit . AVhen Lodge No . 600 takes " the unprecedented course of blowing its trumpet in your columns ,

and of saying to the Masonic world , " take a pattern from our model lodge—look at the array of charity we can boast of—follow our new system—add to your funds under any pretence , aud confine your favours to yourown locality "—it naturally excites a , feeling of investigation to see how far these new-fangled notions are consistent with Freemasonry , and whether instead of

Masoniccharity there is only " sounding brass , or a tinklingcymhal . " Let Lodge No . 600 explain under what known regulation it divides its funds as in Table No . 1 , and . say if it has a by-law for tbis purpose , or if a simplevote of its lodge can dispose of the whole in any way it chooses—whether , in fact , the division has any existence but on paper , and the funds could not be used for any , all , or none of the " institutions ; " in short , if

tho whole table ( excepting the sum total ) is not a myth . Again , let Lodge No . 600 explain Table No . 2 , by saying if the amounts voted for each year under theheading "institutions connected with the lodge , " are-¦ used for the purposes named , or what part of such sums has been so applied , and if the remainder goes back to > the general fund .

Again , let Lodge No . 600 explain why the real Masonic-Institutions are not named in its balance-sheet—why the poor , the lame , the deaf , the blind , the widow and orphan of the general brotherhood meet with no succour or support from its funds , or why local claims should subvert Masonic obligations , or why Lodge No . 600-should not be enrolled under the Friendly Society's Act .

Again , let Lodge No . 600 explain as to its membershow many are foreign and non-resident ; what is theaverage attendance of its own members at lodge meetings ; bow often Provincial Grand Lodge has been held under its banner , and the dates ; how many of its members have held provincial office , and the dates ; also if it has a chapter , and what is its condition . Again , let Lodge No . 600 explain if any of its membersare returned as " subscribins members , " without the

payment of any subscription by such members , for the purpose of enabling them , if need be , to become recipients of the real Benevolent or Annuity Funds , and their children inmates of the schools ; and if any of its members so returned have taken advantage of that arrangement . Lodge No . 600 need not explain tho addendas to its

balance-sheet , which boasts of a sum paid in the namo of the lodge , though not out of the lodge funds , to the distressed operatives , and which looks , along with tho subscriptions to the local institutions , so like a bait to catch popularity and members that ib is better let alone . AVhen these explanations are forthcoming , we may bo able to draw such conclusions as shall lace Lodge No .

p 600 in its proper position as a Freemasons' lodge , and see what claims it has to rank as such . I am , yours truly and fraternally , INVESTIGATOR .

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