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The Lodge Of Glasgow St. John.

THE LODGE OF GLASGOW ST . JOHN .

By Bro . W . P . BUCHAN , P . S . W . No . 3 Ms , and Grand Steward , Grand Lodge of Scotland . ( Continued from page 463 ) . From the foregoing " Articles and Regulations " we would seem to be warranted in stating that the

year 1825 sawthe firststep taken for the adoption of Speculative Freemasonry in a formal manner by the Glasgow Freemen Operative St . John ' s Lodge . Before that date they met occasionally , and held a festival on St . John ' s Eve , at which the crystal

did not always come off scathless , as per an account I once saw , of date about 1813 or therebouts , which account for expenses incurred at lodge festival the Deacon of the Incorporation authorises the Collector to settle . Again , as per page 404 ,

we see the lodge marching at a procession in 1792 . However , generally speaking , their meetings were few and far between , and they do not appear to

have taken very kindly to Speculative Masonry . Then if their " entry '' consisted in anything * more elaborate than the mere giving of the word with a promise to keep it secret , I do not know who would conduct the ceremonies unless they were

worked by brethren of other lodges , for it is a fact that I have often wondered at , that , although amongst the brethren of Glasgow St . John ' s Lodge you may get some of the best practical operative Masons in the kingdom , yet I never

saw or heard of one of them working the three degrees ; while out of all the members in toto I can only as yet learn of three who have ever wrought the three degrees , viz ., Bro . J . B . Walker , P . M . ( Painter ) , Bro . James M'Millan , S . W . ( Smith ) ,

and one of the Past S . W . 's , who has wrought all the ceremonies . And it is within the last five years these began to work . Bro . Walker was R . W . M . during 1866 .

Such a circumstance is worth thinking over in connection with the sort of ceremony practised in the old operative lodges before 1717 . In fact , it all goes to prove what I have already stated , viz ,, that " making Masons" before 1717 was a

very simple process , and a process which when practisedby masons , was something similar to the process practised by smiths , joiners , shoemakers , painters , plumbers , * & c . And had it not been for the

concoction of Speculative Masonry by Desaguliers and Co ., we would have heard no more of Free-masonry now than we do of Free-tailorery , Free-weavery , or any other such ideas . * However , to proceed with the minutes .

" At Glasgow , the sixteenth day . of December , eighteen hundred and twenty-five . Convened—The Master , several of the Office Bearers , and a number of the members of the lodge , the whole having been warned to attend , as was verified by

the officer . A number of members paid their quarter accounts , as per . roll book . " The lodge then proceeded to the election of Office Bearers , when the following choice was . made , viz .:

—. James Scott , G . Master . James M'Guffie , Last Master . Archd . Johnstone , Deputy Master . James Torrance , S . W . Wm . Aitken , J . W .

A . Scott . Treasurer . John Hamilton , G . Steward . James Cranston , S . Steward . Robert Aitken , junior , J . Steward . George Young , Secretary .

John Watt , } Jr - Sfcmds - James Baird , Tyler . "The meeting resolve to meet for the purpose of celebrating the anniversary of St . John on the

27 th inst .., and appoint the Secretary to give notice accordingly . Farther , the Master , Treasurer , Grand Steward , and Senior Warden are appointed as a committee to provide a canopy for the Master ' s chair , the expense of which ,

however , is not to exceed five pounds sterling . " James Scott . " At Glasgow , the fifteenth day of December , 1826 . Convened . The Master , several of the Office Bearers , and a number of the members of the lodge , the whole having been warned to attend ,

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Untitled Article 1
THE RITES OF FREEMASONRY. Article 1
THE LODGE OF GLASGOW ST. JOHN. Article 3
HOW I SPENT MY FIVE WEEKS' LEAVE. Article 4
UNIFORMITY OF RITUAL. Article 6
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 9
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 10
Untitled Article 11
MASONIC MEMS. Article 11
Craft Masonry. Article 11
PROVINCIAL. Article 12
SCOTTISH CONSTITUTION. Article 14
ITALY. Article 16
ROYAL ARCH. Article 16
KNIGHTS TEMPLAR. Article 16
FENIANISM AND FREEMASONRY. Article 17
TWO HOURS AT A CHAPTER OF INSTRUCTION IN ROYAL ARCH MASONRY. Article 19
Poetry. Article 19
SCIENTIFIC MEETINGS FOR THE WEEK. Article 19
LIST OF LODGE, MEETINGS, &c., FOR WEEK ENDING 25TH DECEMBER, 1869. Article 20
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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The Lodge Of Glasgow St. John.

THE LODGE OF GLASGOW ST . JOHN .

By Bro . W . P . BUCHAN , P . S . W . No . 3 Ms , and Grand Steward , Grand Lodge of Scotland . ( Continued from page 463 ) . From the foregoing " Articles and Regulations " we would seem to be warranted in stating that the

year 1825 sawthe firststep taken for the adoption of Speculative Freemasonry in a formal manner by the Glasgow Freemen Operative St . John ' s Lodge . Before that date they met occasionally , and held a festival on St . John ' s Eve , at which the crystal

did not always come off scathless , as per an account I once saw , of date about 1813 or therebouts , which account for expenses incurred at lodge festival the Deacon of the Incorporation authorises the Collector to settle . Again , as per page 404 ,

we see the lodge marching at a procession in 1792 . However , generally speaking , their meetings were few and far between , and they do not appear to

have taken very kindly to Speculative Masonry . Then if their " entry '' consisted in anything * more elaborate than the mere giving of the word with a promise to keep it secret , I do not know who would conduct the ceremonies unless they were

worked by brethren of other lodges , for it is a fact that I have often wondered at , that , although amongst the brethren of Glasgow St . John ' s Lodge you may get some of the best practical operative Masons in the kingdom , yet I never

saw or heard of one of them working the three degrees ; while out of all the members in toto I can only as yet learn of three who have ever wrought the three degrees , viz ., Bro . J . B . Walker , P . M . ( Painter ) , Bro . James M'Millan , S . W . ( Smith ) ,

and one of the Past S . W . 's , who has wrought all the ceremonies . And it is within the last five years these began to work . Bro . Walker was R . W . M . during 1866 .

Such a circumstance is worth thinking over in connection with the sort of ceremony practised in the old operative lodges before 1717 . In fact , it all goes to prove what I have already stated , viz ,, that " making Masons" before 1717 was a

very simple process , and a process which when practisedby masons , was something similar to the process practised by smiths , joiners , shoemakers , painters , plumbers , * & c . And had it not been for the

concoction of Speculative Masonry by Desaguliers and Co ., we would have heard no more of Free-masonry now than we do of Free-tailorery , Free-weavery , or any other such ideas . * However , to proceed with the minutes .

" At Glasgow , the sixteenth day . of December , eighteen hundred and twenty-five . Convened—The Master , several of the Office Bearers , and a number of the members of the lodge , the whole having been warned to attend , as was verified by

the officer . A number of members paid their quarter accounts , as per . roll book . " The lodge then proceeded to the election of Office Bearers , when the following choice was . made , viz .:

—. James Scott , G . Master . James M'Guffie , Last Master . Archd . Johnstone , Deputy Master . James Torrance , S . W . Wm . Aitken , J . W .

A . Scott . Treasurer . John Hamilton , G . Steward . James Cranston , S . Steward . Robert Aitken , junior , J . Steward . George Young , Secretary .

John Watt , } Jr - Sfcmds - James Baird , Tyler . "The meeting resolve to meet for the purpose of celebrating the anniversary of St . John on the

27 th inst .., and appoint the Secretary to give notice accordingly . Farther , the Master , Treasurer , Grand Steward , and Senior Warden are appointed as a committee to provide a canopy for the Master ' s chair , the expense of which ,

however , is not to exceed five pounds sterling . " James Scott . " At Glasgow , the fifteenth day of December , 1826 . Convened . The Master , several of the Office Bearers , and a number of the members of the lodge , the whole having been warned to attend ,

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