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Masonic Archæological Institute.

shedding light on that dark page of our history . "Apologising * for thus troubling yon , which please excuse by attributing it to my desire to see Ancient Craft in possession of a good title deed .

" I am Dear Sir and Brother , " Yours truly and fraternally , " WlTHAJI M . BrWATEE . " " P , S . —If yon have a copy ofthe Commissioners ' First Report , I invite your attention to papes 65 ,

bottom of first col . ; 76 , top of second col . ; 78 , first col . ; 95 , second col . ; 107 , bottom of first col . "

A discussion took place on the best mode the Institute could adopt to give effect to the propositions of Bro . By water . Bro . Bywater stated that one document referred to need be of interest , as it was a contract with a

¦ ' Free " Mason in connection with the building of a tomb in Wells Cathedral . This had been printed by the Town Clerk of Wells . Bro . Wigginton suggested that the AV . M . of the lodge at "AV ells , should be moved to obtain a copy from the Town Clerk for the use and consideration of the members ofthe institute .

This Bro . Bywater offered to effect . The chairman and Bro . Hyde Clark undertook to communicate with the Record Commissioners , w ith the view of carrying out the objects of Bro . Bywater . ¦ Thanks were returned to Bro . Bywater for his valuable communication .

The chief subject of the evening was a communication on a now system of Masonry among Mussulmans . It was observed that Associations and Secresy or Mystery , are two great principles of Freemasonry , and two great princi ples

influencing the human mind . They are consequently to be observed in all ages , and among all nations of mankind . In that sense the elements of Masonryare certainly to be regarded as of the greatest antiquity , and as they are widely disseminated ,

so are they to be particularly recognised among the Mussulman communities . The chief form of these mystic associations is that of tlie Orders of Dervishes . It is not unnatural that many have supposed that the exact forms of Masonry are to

be found among the Dervishes . A sketch was then given of the introduction of Freemasonry into Turkey , Persia and India . It was pointed out that while the Mussulmans acknowledge the sacred books of the Jews and Christians , they treat the

Karan as a further developement , and in adopting Freemasonry they are naturally disposed to seek its developement for members of their own community in the forms of Islam . Such a development has been founded at Constantinople , but the

members of it acknowledge universal Masonry as a title to participation and to brotherhood . Many details were given , which are not of a nature to admit of public treatment . Bro . Khan Bahadur Kazi Shahabudun Ibrahim ,

Dewan of H . H . the Rae of Kutch , entered into some details as to the principles of Islam , and the present movement in India for purifying it from superstitious practices . He stated that the persecution of the Persian Freemasons was probably

owing to their being confounded , as a secret society , with the dangerous fraternity of the Hashishiyohs . Our Indian brethren spoke fluently in English . Bro . Hyde Clarke concurred , aud gave some

account of the present condition of the Persian Freemasons . Bro . Dadabhai Naoroji , late Professor of Guzaretee in University College , referred to the great antiquity of mysteries among the old

Persians . Bro . Jamshedjee Ivanjee Gazdar concurred . Bro . Bywater referred to some points of interest in the paper , aud the general relations of Masonic signs and secrets to those of secret societies among Mussulmans and Chinese .

Bro . AA ^ iggiuton pointed out that the dimensions in height , length , and breadth of tlie Temple of the Caaba at Mecca were very peculiar , and appeared to have some relations to its reputed antiquity . They appeared to have some analogy

to those of the Tabernacle . The situation of the door was also deserving of notice . He threw out the hint for consideration , whether these relations of length and breadth could have any reference to the geometrical proportions of the globe of the

earth . The Chairman doubted this . With regard to tho connection of Freemasonry with other mystic systems , it was difficult to judge ; but this at all events could be determined , that Freemasonry

being founded on the noblesb principles and on the basis of truth , must be of the highest moral value . It could not either be doubted that it had been of practical use in many remote places . He gave an example of an English brother captured many years ago by brigands in Greece , who was -

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FREEMASONRY IN FRANCE. Article 1
THE GRAND LODGE OF THE THREE GLOBES ,BERLIN. Article 3
HISTORY OF FREEMASONRY IN WORCESTERSHIRE. Article 4
MASONIC JOTTINGS.—No. 24. Article 7
MASONIC ARCHÆOLOGICAL INSTITUTE. Article 7
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 9
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 11
MASONIC LITERATURE AND THE FREEMASONS. Article 12
MARK LODGES. Article 12
MASONIC SAYINGS AND DOINGS ABROAD. Article 12
Untitled Article 14
MASONIC MEMS. Article 14
Craft Masonry. Article 14
INDIA. Article 16
ROYAL ARCH. Article 18
ANCIENT AND ACCEPTED RITE. Article 19
REVIEWS Article 19
Obituary. Article 19
SCIENTIFIC MEETINGS FOR THE WEEK. Article 20
LIST OF LODGE, MEETINGS, &c, FOR WEEK ENDING 23RD, JUNE 1870. Article 20
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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Masonic Archæological Institute.

shedding light on that dark page of our history . "Apologising * for thus troubling yon , which please excuse by attributing it to my desire to see Ancient Craft in possession of a good title deed .

" I am Dear Sir and Brother , " Yours truly and fraternally , " WlTHAJI M . BrWATEE . " " P , S . —If yon have a copy ofthe Commissioners ' First Report , I invite your attention to papes 65 ,

bottom of first col . ; 76 , top of second col . ; 78 , first col . ; 95 , second col . ; 107 , bottom of first col . "

A discussion took place on the best mode the Institute could adopt to give effect to the propositions of Bro . By water . Bro . Bywater stated that one document referred to need be of interest , as it was a contract with a

¦ ' Free " Mason in connection with the building of a tomb in Wells Cathedral . This had been printed by the Town Clerk of Wells . Bro . Wigginton suggested that the AV . M . of the lodge at "AV ells , should be moved to obtain a copy from the Town Clerk for the use and consideration of the members ofthe institute .

This Bro . Bywater offered to effect . The chairman and Bro . Hyde Clark undertook to communicate with the Record Commissioners , w ith the view of carrying out the objects of Bro . Bywater . ¦ Thanks were returned to Bro . Bywater for his valuable communication .

The chief subject of the evening was a communication on a now system of Masonry among Mussulmans . It was observed that Associations and Secresy or Mystery , are two great principles of Freemasonry , and two great princi ples

influencing the human mind . They are consequently to be observed in all ages , and among all nations of mankind . In that sense the elements of Masonryare certainly to be regarded as of the greatest antiquity , and as they are widely disseminated ,

so are they to be particularly recognised among the Mussulman communities . The chief form of these mystic associations is that of tlie Orders of Dervishes . It is not unnatural that many have supposed that the exact forms of Masonry are to

be found among the Dervishes . A sketch was then given of the introduction of Freemasonry into Turkey , Persia and India . It was pointed out that while the Mussulmans acknowledge the sacred books of the Jews and Christians , they treat the

Karan as a further developement , and in adopting Freemasonry they are naturally disposed to seek its developement for members of their own community in the forms of Islam . Such a development has been founded at Constantinople , but the

members of it acknowledge universal Masonry as a title to participation and to brotherhood . Many details were given , which are not of a nature to admit of public treatment . Bro . Khan Bahadur Kazi Shahabudun Ibrahim ,

Dewan of H . H . the Rae of Kutch , entered into some details as to the principles of Islam , and the present movement in India for purifying it from superstitious practices . He stated that the persecution of the Persian Freemasons was probably

owing to their being confounded , as a secret society , with the dangerous fraternity of the Hashishiyohs . Our Indian brethren spoke fluently in English . Bro . Hyde Clarke concurred , aud gave some

account of the present condition of the Persian Freemasons . Bro . Dadabhai Naoroji , late Professor of Guzaretee in University College , referred to the great antiquity of mysteries among the old

Persians . Bro . Jamshedjee Ivanjee Gazdar concurred . Bro . Bywater referred to some points of interest in the paper , aud the general relations of Masonic signs and secrets to those of secret societies among Mussulmans and Chinese .

Bro . AA ^ iggiuton pointed out that the dimensions in height , length , and breadth of tlie Temple of the Caaba at Mecca were very peculiar , and appeared to have some relations to its reputed antiquity . They appeared to have some analogy

to those of the Tabernacle . The situation of the door was also deserving of notice . He threw out the hint for consideration , whether these relations of length and breadth could have any reference to the geometrical proportions of the globe of the

earth . The Chairman doubted this . With regard to tho connection of Freemasonry with other mystic systems , it was difficult to judge ; but this at all events could be determined , that Freemasonry

being founded on the noblesb principles and on the basis of truth , must be of the highest moral value . It could not either be doubted that it had been of practical use in many remote places . He gave an example of an English brother captured many years ago by brigands in Greece , who was -

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