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  • THE PROVINCE OF NORTHUMBERLAND AND THE CHARITIES.
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The Province Of Northumberland And The Charities.

that 624 did not know the constitution of the funds , from which I proposed to raise the money required for the annuities . As this correspondence can lead to no result on the object of the Charities , I shall not again reply to P . M . 624 , as ho can , when he requires , elicit my opinions , and address his questions within Provincial Grand Lodge . Sir ancl Brother Fraternall

I remain , Dear , yours y , JOHN BARKER , Prov . G . Treas . [ The correspondence is closed . —ED . ]

Mr. Papworth's Lecture.

MR . PAPWORTH'S LECTURE .

TO THE EDITOR OF THE FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIRROR . DEAR . SIR . AND BROTHER , —The interesting subject on which Mr . Papworth lectured , last week before the Society of British Architects , as reaported in your columnsof last Saturday , deserves the attention of every Freemason . I have for some time now been engaged on a like

investigation , and notwithstanding Mr . Papworth ' s grave doubts , and Mr . Kerr ' s confident assertions , have come to a totally opposite conclusion . I believe that ample and indubtiable proofs ate forthcoming , of the connexion existing between modern Freemasonry and the mediceval guilds . It is somewhat amusing to note both thc great

dislike to admit , any , even the slightest link betiveen the operative and speculative brotherhood , and the foregone conclusion which marks the argument of that learned gentleman . Though it is clear , upon Mr . Papworth's own admission , and Mr . Kerr's own assertions , it is the very heiht of inconsistency on their part to deny such

g probable connexion . I hope ere long to publish a lecture on the same subject , proving , I think , beyond all doubt , from the very evidences they both allude to , aud many other like facts , the continuous and unchanging identity , between the secrets and mysteries of our speculative brotherhood , and the operative and speculative brotherhood of former days .

As Mr . Kerr says , no one in his senses had such a view , I am sorry to subscribe myself one of those unfortunate persons . "Very fraternally yours , A . T . A . WOODFIELD . Swellington Leeds , January 7 th , 1862 .

Knight Templars And High Grades.

KNIGHT TEMPLARS AND HIGH GRADES .

10 THE EDITOR OF THE FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIRROR . DEAR SIR AND BRO . KNIGHT . —I notice in the Masonic Notes and Queries department of the MAGAZINE , a communication by G . G . T ., which if true , and I hope the matter will be thoroughly investigated , will render the constitution of the Supreme Council in this country illegal .

The best plan would be for the Templar and High Grade _ Masons to combine and build a hall for their own exclusive use . In common with many worthy Templars , I look upon the Supreme Council as a usurping body , who , under specious but unfounded pretexts , have deprived the Templars of their lawful birthright—the maintenance of the laws , rites , and ceremonies of the

Christian degrees of Masonry . The York rite of 25 ° , anciently practised by what is now called the Masonic Templars , having long preceded the establishment of the 33 ° with their fabulous powers from Frederick the Great ! What authority ought his representatives to exercise over England ? Let us , however , live hi unity and brotherly love , and seek ground on which we can combine ; can any brother throw out suggestions with this object hi view ? The only common ground , unless We accept as such their degree of Sovereign Commander ,

appears to be the Templar K . D . S . H ., which , in all probability , comes to us from the French Knights , and formerly constituted our highest degree of Ternplary , and which I believe is still practised by a few encampments . Let the Supreme Council , as a mark of favour or respect , recognise this degree when conferred on Knight Commanders ; iveon our partrecognising 3 ° of Ternplary

, , , viz .: Companion , Commander , ancl Grand Cross ( as is done in { France and Scotland ) , and engaging to admit none as brothers of the Temple , but such as have taken the 18 ° under their banner ; our Grand Master , who must have attained the highest degree of Ternplary , being the colleague of the Supreme Council . If the 18 ° was made a requisiteas is the case in France

, —our American brethren requiring the red cross—we could then reduce the necessary fee for installation to £ 2 2 s . Without this , I trust the Grand Conclave will oppose any alteration . The Very Eminent Sir Knt . Dr . Hinxman , who , I notice , is a contrast and pattern to many of our Prov . G . C . ' s , has given notice of his intention to move for a

committee to revise the statutes . I hope , before the time comes round , some brother will do for Ternplary what you are so ably doing for the Craft , viz ., give us comparison of the statutes of different countries , in order that we may blunder into something like uniformity . Allow me to put a few facts generally lost sight of , which should receive attention from the Knights .

The order of Knight Templars , or Knights of the Temple of Solomon , is a royal Order , the G . M . being its sovereign ; it cannot , therefore , have two or more G . M . ' s at one and the same time . It is alleged that our mystical Order originally possessed Masonic mysteries . However that may be , since 1313 chapters of the Order in England have continued disguisedly to exist in connection with speculative Masonry , until finally the Order has passed laws to admit none as members but those who have passed a Masonic

novitiate . Yet it by no means on that account loses its sovereign or chivalric character . No Papal suppression has been of any force ; and the Order would continue to exist entitled to all its privileges , where and whenever a sufficient number of its members could meet to conduct its affairs . It follows that if in any country there has been a succession of Grand Mastei s propei-ly

elected from the time of the martyred De Molay , the entire Order is and ought to be subject to that G . M . With the view of claiming this privilege , the French Templars show a charter of transmission , which they allege has been handed down from G . M . to G . M . along with the ritual , seals , banners , and bones of the martyred Templars ; and this bodis the onlone which

y y itself confers Masonic degrees . Of this branch Sir Sydney Smith was G . M ., the Duke of Sussex being Grand Prior of England , Earl of Durham , of Scotland , and Duke of Leinster of Ireland . After their deaths the entire Order fell for a time into abeyance , until Colonel Tynte was elected M . E . and S . G . M ., when the 18 ° and Templar K . D . S . H . were severed from ita step much

, to be regretted , as , if Masonic degrees are made necessary , it is strnogly objectionable to 0 . B ., a Templar without the Rose > J <; and I conceive that , in their rejection , the Order loses its independence , unless it claims to exercise an authority over the whole of Masonry , which it nowhere does in the statutes . Knights should be received into the Order in the

name of the G . M ., and be so informed at the time of clasping the mantle , as it is by that ceremony there reception is indicated ; and in place of the ordinary record of registry delivered to each Knight , he should receive a patent signed by the G . M ., expressive of his z-ecognition and protection of such brother as a Knt . Companion . In like manner a Knt . on his attaining the grade of a Commander , or any other higher degree in the Order , should receive a similar acknowledgment , for which the Chancellor should charge a small fee ,

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THE CHARITIES. Article 1
NEW GRAND MASTER FOR FRANCE. Article 1
FREEMASONRY IN FRANCE. Article 1
THE "SATURDAY REVIEW" AND THE "DAILY TELEGRAPH" ON FREEMASONRY. Article 4
MASONIC FACTS. Article 5
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 8
NOTES ON LITERATURE, SCIENCE, AND ART. Article 8
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 9
THE MASONIC CHARITIES. Article 10
THE PROVINCE OF NORTHUMBERLAND AND THE CHARITIES. Article 10
MR. PAPWORTH'S LECTURE. Article 11
KNIGHT TEMPLARS AND HIGH GRADES. Article 11
THE MASONIC MIRROR. Article 13
PROVINCIAL. Article 13
SCOTLAND. Article 17
CHANNEL ISLANDS. Article 18
TURKEY. Article 18
ROYAL ARCH. Article 18
Obituary. Article 18
PUBLIC AMUSEMENTS. Article 19
THE WEEK. Article 19
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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The Province Of Northumberland And The Charities.

that 624 did not know the constitution of the funds , from which I proposed to raise the money required for the annuities . As this correspondence can lead to no result on the object of the Charities , I shall not again reply to P . M . 624 , as ho can , when he requires , elicit my opinions , and address his questions within Provincial Grand Lodge . Sir ancl Brother Fraternall

I remain , Dear , yours y , JOHN BARKER , Prov . G . Treas . [ The correspondence is closed . —ED . ]

Mr. Papworth's Lecture.

MR . PAPWORTH'S LECTURE .

TO THE EDITOR OF THE FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIRROR . DEAR . SIR . AND BROTHER , —The interesting subject on which Mr . Papworth lectured , last week before the Society of British Architects , as reaported in your columnsof last Saturday , deserves the attention of every Freemason . I have for some time now been engaged on a like

investigation , and notwithstanding Mr . Papworth ' s grave doubts , and Mr . Kerr ' s confident assertions , have come to a totally opposite conclusion . I believe that ample and indubtiable proofs ate forthcoming , of the connexion existing between modern Freemasonry and the mediceval guilds . It is somewhat amusing to note both thc great

dislike to admit , any , even the slightest link betiveen the operative and speculative brotherhood , and the foregone conclusion which marks the argument of that learned gentleman . Though it is clear , upon Mr . Papworth's own admission , and Mr . Kerr's own assertions , it is the very heiht of inconsistency on their part to deny such

g probable connexion . I hope ere long to publish a lecture on the same subject , proving , I think , beyond all doubt , from the very evidences they both allude to , aud many other like facts , the continuous and unchanging identity , between the secrets and mysteries of our speculative brotherhood , and the operative and speculative brotherhood of former days .

As Mr . Kerr says , no one in his senses had such a view , I am sorry to subscribe myself one of those unfortunate persons . "Very fraternally yours , A . T . A . WOODFIELD . Swellington Leeds , January 7 th , 1862 .

Knight Templars And High Grades.

KNIGHT TEMPLARS AND HIGH GRADES .

10 THE EDITOR OF THE FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIRROR . DEAR SIR AND BRO . KNIGHT . —I notice in the Masonic Notes and Queries department of the MAGAZINE , a communication by G . G . T ., which if true , and I hope the matter will be thoroughly investigated , will render the constitution of the Supreme Council in this country illegal .

The best plan would be for the Templar and High Grade _ Masons to combine and build a hall for their own exclusive use . In common with many worthy Templars , I look upon the Supreme Council as a usurping body , who , under specious but unfounded pretexts , have deprived the Templars of their lawful birthright—the maintenance of the laws , rites , and ceremonies of the

Christian degrees of Masonry . The York rite of 25 ° , anciently practised by what is now called the Masonic Templars , having long preceded the establishment of the 33 ° with their fabulous powers from Frederick the Great ! What authority ought his representatives to exercise over England ? Let us , however , live hi unity and brotherly love , and seek ground on which we can combine ; can any brother throw out suggestions with this object hi view ? The only common ground , unless We accept as such their degree of Sovereign Commander ,

appears to be the Templar K . D . S . H ., which , in all probability , comes to us from the French Knights , and formerly constituted our highest degree of Ternplary , and which I believe is still practised by a few encampments . Let the Supreme Council , as a mark of favour or respect , recognise this degree when conferred on Knight Commanders ; iveon our partrecognising 3 ° of Ternplary

, , , viz .: Companion , Commander , ancl Grand Cross ( as is done in { France and Scotland ) , and engaging to admit none as brothers of the Temple , but such as have taken the 18 ° under their banner ; our Grand Master , who must have attained the highest degree of Ternplary , being the colleague of the Supreme Council . If the 18 ° was made a requisiteas is the case in France

, —our American brethren requiring the red cross—we could then reduce the necessary fee for installation to £ 2 2 s . Without this , I trust the Grand Conclave will oppose any alteration . The Very Eminent Sir Knt . Dr . Hinxman , who , I notice , is a contrast and pattern to many of our Prov . G . C . ' s , has given notice of his intention to move for a

committee to revise the statutes . I hope , before the time comes round , some brother will do for Ternplary what you are so ably doing for the Craft , viz ., give us comparison of the statutes of different countries , in order that we may blunder into something like uniformity . Allow me to put a few facts generally lost sight of , which should receive attention from the Knights .

The order of Knight Templars , or Knights of the Temple of Solomon , is a royal Order , the G . M . being its sovereign ; it cannot , therefore , have two or more G . M . ' s at one and the same time . It is alleged that our mystical Order originally possessed Masonic mysteries . However that may be , since 1313 chapters of the Order in England have continued disguisedly to exist in connection with speculative Masonry , until finally the Order has passed laws to admit none as members but those who have passed a Masonic

novitiate . Yet it by no means on that account loses its sovereign or chivalric character . No Papal suppression has been of any force ; and the Order would continue to exist entitled to all its privileges , where and whenever a sufficient number of its members could meet to conduct its affairs . It follows that if in any country there has been a succession of Grand Mastei s propei-ly

elected from the time of the martyred De Molay , the entire Order is and ought to be subject to that G . M . With the view of claiming this privilege , the French Templars show a charter of transmission , which they allege has been handed down from G . M . to G . M . along with the ritual , seals , banners , and bones of the martyred Templars ; and this bodis the onlone which

y y itself confers Masonic degrees . Of this branch Sir Sydney Smith was G . M ., the Duke of Sussex being Grand Prior of England , Earl of Durham , of Scotland , and Duke of Leinster of Ireland . After their deaths the entire Order fell for a time into abeyance , until Colonel Tynte was elected M . E . and S . G . M ., when the 18 ° and Templar K . D . S . H . were severed from ita step much

, to be regretted , as , if Masonic degrees are made necessary , it is strnogly objectionable to 0 . B ., a Templar without the Rose > J <; and I conceive that , in their rejection , the Order loses its independence , unless it claims to exercise an authority over the whole of Masonry , which it nowhere does in the statutes . Knights should be received into the Order in the

name of the G . M ., and be so informed at the time of clasping the mantle , as it is by that ceremony there reception is indicated ; and in place of the ordinary record of registry delivered to each Knight , he should receive a patent signed by the G . M ., expressive of his z-ecognition and protection of such brother as a Knt . Companion . In like manner a Knt . on his attaining the grade of a Commander , or any other higher degree in the Order , should receive a similar acknowledgment , for which the Chancellor should charge a small fee ,

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