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Masonic Discipline.—Xyi.

'bassr , is the manner in which the W . M . after jsejpcsting the assistance of the brethren in his ¦ js-s-fk ,, addresses the third ofScer in the lodge . It is- the practice of some Masters to address him as Isnrjiber A . B . calling him by his surname and of

&& S 3 S to address him as brother J . W . Which . is- esrrect ? This may at first sight appear rather -MR insignificant point , but it Avill be seen that spon it really turns the exact moment at Avhich a ho & ge may be considered formed .

lb might be assumed that no officer has a right So-be- considered in his chair and to be addressed by ' ihe title of his office , until the lodge is " properly 'iSed" and the brethren " to order . " Upon these grounds , therefore , the correct address is Bro .

A , B . in the first question of the W . M . to the J . W ., Sa the- command of the J . W . to the I . G ., in the reply ® f ti-e I . G . to the J . W ., and in repetition of that j & ply by the J . W . to the W . M . In addressing his Srefc question to the S . W . the W . M . employes the

same style , but after the brethren are to order " hs prefaces the next interrogatory to the J . W . by giving him the title of his office , and the same is maintained towards all the officers during the : ? ate & proceedings of the lodge . On the other

JbaaM } , it may be argued that directly . the W . M . ihas Bsed the gavel , the brethren AVIIO occupy the chaws are ipso jure , if not ipso facto , officers , and & hst , therefore , they may be appropriately addressed by their titles . But it must be borne in mind

ihaib the lodge is not "formed " until the brethren •as ?© "to order , " and it is manifestly somewhat in-congruous to address officers by their title before hkat is accomplished . It is not intended here to lay down the law , or to presumptuously decide the

p & in * , but after mature consideration Ave give the ¦© reference ourselves to addressing the officers by ibsir surnames , with the fraternal prefix , until the isomsnt when the lodge may be said to be " ¦ formed " by the brethren appearing " to src & er . "

Some of the brethren will probably retort upon ITS , by directing our attention to the prevailing practice of addressing the officers by their titles during the banquet , after the lodge has been dosed , ancl requesting to know how Ave reconcile

'isle difference . To this Ave reply that we do not attempt to reconcile it , but , at the same time , ah-ere is a very good reason Avhy the officers may h & so addressed at the banquet , although not before Si © formation of the lodge . This reason is to be femcf- in the fact , that the time for the banquet or

Masonic Discipline.—Xyi.

" refreshment " was formerly during the holding of the lodge , and , consequently , the officers were absolutely then in office . It is true that we no longer , at least in London lodges , adjourn " from labour to refreshment and from refreshment to

labour ; " but it is not difficult to account for the retaining of the one custom , although the other may have fallen into disuse . While upon the subject of the banquet , it may be mentioned , that it would be more to the credit of Masonic

prudence , if brethren would abstain from pledging each other Masonically until the cloth is off the table and none but Masons present . It is no doubt au error on the right side , but still an error in judgment , due to that cordial fraternal feeling Avith

which every brother sits down at the social board . At a large banquet , where some sixty or seventy members of the fraternity are assembled , it is utterly impossible to secure the services of the necessary number of Masonic attendants , and it

may be relied upon that if the convives find time to interchange Masonic inuendos , those who attend upon them will find time to observe them .

The Palestine Exploration Fund.

THE PALESTINE EXPLORATION FUND .

INTERESTING DISCOVERT AT THE N . E . ANGLE , HARAM AREA . Eeport from Lieut . WARREN . 11 th June , 1869 . We have , during the last few days , succeeded

in driving a gallery up to the great block of masonry forming the north-east angle , and have found the wall to be built of great bevelled stones to a depth of at least 60 ft . below the surface , and Ave have not yet come on the rock .

In my last letter I expressed some diffidence about our being able to get across , on account of the treacherous nature of the soil , although we

Avere then only 50 ft . off . By employing a different shape of gallery frame , and keeping a non-commissioned officer continually at the head of the gallery fixing them , we have been able to surmount these difficulties , and are IIOAV likely to

make a great addition to our knowledge of the ancient topography . Already we . have made a happy commencement . We struck the Haram Wall about 18 ft . south of the north-east angle , and at a depth of about

32 ft . below the surface . We then turned north , and ran along the Haram Wall for 26 ft . without finding any angle similar to that above . At this point a slit about 18 in . wide and 4 in . hi gh was

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ANCIENT LODGES. Article 4
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 5
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 7
"ANON."—SOLOMON'S TEMPLE. Article 7
BRO. MELVILLE. Article 8
THE INAUGURATION FESTIVAL AND THE STEWARDS' JEWEL. Article 8
INAUGURATION OF THE FREEMASONS' HALL. Article 8
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MARK MASONRY, AND THE GRAND MARK LODGE OFFICIALS. Article 8
ZETLAND COMMEMORATION FUND. Article 8
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SCOTLAND. Article 17
ROYAL ARCH. Article 17
MARK MASONRY. Article 17
MASONIC FESTIVITIES. Article 18
Obituary. Article 18
SERMON. Article 18
Poetry. Article 19
MASONIC LIFEBOAT FUND. Article 19
LIST OF LODGE, &c., MEETINGS FOR WEEK ENDING 24TH JULY, 1869. Article 20
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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Masonic Discipline.—Xyi.

'bassr , is the manner in which the W . M . after jsejpcsting the assistance of the brethren in his ¦ js-s-fk ,, addresses the third ofScer in the lodge . It is- the practice of some Masters to address him as Isnrjiber A . B . calling him by his surname and of

&& S 3 S to address him as brother J . W . Which . is- esrrect ? This may at first sight appear rather -MR insignificant point , but it Avill be seen that spon it really turns the exact moment at Avhich a ho & ge may be considered formed .

lb might be assumed that no officer has a right So-be- considered in his chair and to be addressed by ' ihe title of his office , until the lodge is " properly 'iSed" and the brethren " to order . " Upon these grounds , therefore , the correct address is Bro .

A , B . in the first question of the W . M . to the J . W ., Sa the- command of the J . W . to the I . G ., in the reply ® f ti-e I . G . to the J . W ., and in repetition of that j & ply by the J . W . to the W . M . In addressing his Srefc question to the S . W . the W . M . employes the

same style , but after the brethren are to order " hs prefaces the next interrogatory to the J . W . by giving him the title of his office , and the same is maintained towards all the officers during the : ? ate & proceedings of the lodge . On the other

JbaaM } , it may be argued that directly . the W . M . ihas Bsed the gavel , the brethren AVIIO occupy the chaws are ipso jure , if not ipso facto , officers , and & hst , therefore , they may be appropriately addressed by their titles . But it must be borne in mind

ihaib the lodge is not "formed " until the brethren •as ?© "to order , " and it is manifestly somewhat in-congruous to address officers by their title before hkat is accomplished . It is not intended here to lay down the law , or to presumptuously decide the

p & in * , but after mature consideration Ave give the ¦© reference ourselves to addressing the officers by ibsir surnames , with the fraternal prefix , until the isomsnt when the lodge may be said to be " ¦ formed " by the brethren appearing " to src & er . "

Some of the brethren will probably retort upon ITS , by directing our attention to the prevailing practice of addressing the officers by their titles during the banquet , after the lodge has been dosed , ancl requesting to know how Ave reconcile

'isle difference . To this Ave reply that we do not attempt to reconcile it , but , at the same time , ah-ere is a very good reason Avhy the officers may h & so addressed at the banquet , although not before Si © formation of the lodge . This reason is to be femcf- in the fact , that the time for the banquet or

Masonic Discipline.—Xyi.

" refreshment " was formerly during the holding of the lodge , and , consequently , the officers were absolutely then in office . It is true that we no longer , at least in London lodges , adjourn " from labour to refreshment and from refreshment to

labour ; " but it is not difficult to account for the retaining of the one custom , although the other may have fallen into disuse . While upon the subject of the banquet , it may be mentioned , that it would be more to the credit of Masonic

prudence , if brethren would abstain from pledging each other Masonically until the cloth is off the table and none but Masons present . It is no doubt au error on the right side , but still an error in judgment , due to that cordial fraternal feeling Avith

which every brother sits down at the social board . At a large banquet , where some sixty or seventy members of the fraternity are assembled , it is utterly impossible to secure the services of the necessary number of Masonic attendants , and it

may be relied upon that if the convives find time to interchange Masonic inuendos , those who attend upon them will find time to observe them .

The Palestine Exploration Fund.

THE PALESTINE EXPLORATION FUND .

INTERESTING DISCOVERT AT THE N . E . ANGLE , HARAM AREA . Eeport from Lieut . WARREN . 11 th June , 1869 . We have , during the last few days , succeeded

in driving a gallery up to the great block of masonry forming the north-east angle , and have found the wall to be built of great bevelled stones to a depth of at least 60 ft . below the surface , and Ave have not yet come on the rock .

In my last letter I expressed some diffidence about our being able to get across , on account of the treacherous nature of the soil , although we

Avere then only 50 ft . off . By employing a different shape of gallery frame , and keeping a non-commissioned officer continually at the head of the gallery fixing them , we have been able to surmount these difficulties , and are IIOAV likely to

make a great addition to our knowledge of the ancient topography . Already we . have made a happy commencement . We struck the Haram Wall about 18 ft . south of the north-east angle , and at a depth of about

32 ft . below the surface . We then turned north , and ran along the Haram Wall for 26 ft . without finding any angle similar to that above . At this point a slit about 18 in . wide and 4 in . hi gh was

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