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Lodge Minutes, Etc.—No. 12.

"The Glasgow St . John ' s Operative Lodge claiming presidence of ours in the intended procession through , they resting their claim on a pretended 'Charter granted them by King of Scotland * Anno 1051 , but upon examining the book entitled 'History of Freemasonry" printed by

, Alexander Lawrie and Co ., 1804 , and addressed to the Earl of Dalhousie , G . M ., Ex . in c . 12 , appendix 8 , I find that all lodges not holding of the Grand Lodge are excluded from holding any intercourse with constituted lodges at any procession or meeting whatever .

"Your immediate answer to this will oblige , as it is my wish to act conformably to the authority of the Grand Lodge . "I am , & c , '' JAMES YOUNG . " Copy of letter of Sir John Stuart to Bro . James Young , R . W . M . dated Edin ., 28 th July , 1806 . —

" Sir . — Your letter was sent to me by the Grand Secretary as P . G . M . of the ward of under Lanark , which I transmitted to the Grand Master of Scotland , desiring his command s thereupon ; the first moment I receive them will inform you . In the event of his Lordship not

having ib in his power to go himself , probably he may command me there as his constituted and regular representative , in which case it is my intention to attend you . Nothing will prevent me , except any alteration to the worse of one of my children , who is very unwell . In the case I come , I will be at

Glasgow , on Thursday evening , when I would wish much the honour of seeing you , and I dare say you have no need of any assistance of instruction from me , being as you must be all prepared for the purpose already . What I can do to add to the solemnity shall not be wanting .

" I have the honour to be your most obdt ., " Jo . STUAKT . ' , To James Young Esq . R . W . M . St . Mungo ' s Glasgow . "

Copy of a letter from Mr . W . Guthrie , Grand Secretary to the Grand Lodge of Scotland , dated Edinburgh , the 28 th July , 1806 .- — " R . W . Sir and Bro —I received both your letters , and immediately enclosed the first to Sir John StewartP . G . M . over the district in which

, your lodge is classed . I requested his immediate answer , but have never got any . I also sent him the one I got to-day , as I thought he was , from the office he holds , entitled to be consulted ; but as he has returned none of them , I can no longer delay answering youand I think myself

autho-, rized to say that your attention and respect to the Grand Lodge of Scotland entitle you to their protection and approbation , and if I thought any instructions were necessary in the present case , should be happy to convey them , but as I

understand by your letter that you have a copy of a Book , published by Mr . Laurie , I refer you to it for any information you may want . You are perfectly right as to holding no intercourse with the lodge you mention , or with any one that does not regularly hold of the Grand Lodge . And as the

Lodge St . Mungo's is the oldest in Glasgowexcept Glasgow Kilwinning , which I believe is extinct — you are entitled to precedence , and I have no doubt , Sir , but under your auspices the business will be conducted in the manner the occasion merits . With best wishes for the under

taking intended to perpetuate the virtues and valour of our gallant , and ever-to-be regretted hero , as well as for the harmony of the meeting , " I remain , R . W . Sir and Bro ., yours with esteem , '' WILLIAM GUTHRIE . Gd . Secy . "To M . James Young , Junr ., R . W . M ., St . Mungo's Lodge , Glasgow . " ( To be contimied . )

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Untitled Article 1
ENGLISH GILDS.* Article 1
COVENTRY. Article 2
LODGE MINUTES, ETC.—No. 12. Article 5
MASONIC JOTTINGS.—No. 40. Article 8
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 8
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 10
MASONIC SAYINGS AND DOINGS ABROAD. Article 11
Untitled Article 12
MASONIC MEMS. Article 12
GRAND LODGE OF SCOTLAND. INSTALLATION OF BRO. H.R.H. THE PRINCE OF WALES AS GRAND PATRON OF SCOTTISH FREEMASONRY. Article 12
ROYAL MASONIC INSTITUTION FOR GIRLS. Article 13
ROYAL MASONIC BENEVOLENT INSTITUTION. Article 13
Craft Masonry. Article 14
PROVINCIAL. Article 15
ROYAL ARCH. Article 19
NEW SOUTH WALES. Article 19
Poetry. Article 20
LIST OF LODGE, MEETINGS, &c., FOR WEEK ENDING 21ST OCTOBER, 1870. Article 20
METROPOLITAN LODGES AND CHAPTERS OF INSTRUCTION. Article 20
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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Lodge Minutes, Etc.—No. 12.

"The Glasgow St . John ' s Operative Lodge claiming presidence of ours in the intended procession through , they resting their claim on a pretended 'Charter granted them by King of Scotland * Anno 1051 , but upon examining the book entitled 'History of Freemasonry" printed by

, Alexander Lawrie and Co ., 1804 , and addressed to the Earl of Dalhousie , G . M ., Ex . in c . 12 , appendix 8 , I find that all lodges not holding of the Grand Lodge are excluded from holding any intercourse with constituted lodges at any procession or meeting whatever .

"Your immediate answer to this will oblige , as it is my wish to act conformably to the authority of the Grand Lodge . "I am , & c , '' JAMES YOUNG . " Copy of letter of Sir John Stuart to Bro . James Young , R . W . M . dated Edin ., 28 th July , 1806 . —

" Sir . — Your letter was sent to me by the Grand Secretary as P . G . M . of the ward of under Lanark , which I transmitted to the Grand Master of Scotland , desiring his command s thereupon ; the first moment I receive them will inform you . In the event of his Lordship not

having ib in his power to go himself , probably he may command me there as his constituted and regular representative , in which case it is my intention to attend you . Nothing will prevent me , except any alteration to the worse of one of my children , who is very unwell . In the case I come , I will be at

Glasgow , on Thursday evening , when I would wish much the honour of seeing you , and I dare say you have no need of any assistance of instruction from me , being as you must be all prepared for the purpose already . What I can do to add to the solemnity shall not be wanting .

" I have the honour to be your most obdt ., " Jo . STUAKT . ' , To James Young Esq . R . W . M . St . Mungo ' s Glasgow . "

Copy of a letter from Mr . W . Guthrie , Grand Secretary to the Grand Lodge of Scotland , dated Edinburgh , the 28 th July , 1806 .- — " R . W . Sir and Bro —I received both your letters , and immediately enclosed the first to Sir John StewartP . G . M . over the district in which

, your lodge is classed . I requested his immediate answer , but have never got any . I also sent him the one I got to-day , as I thought he was , from the office he holds , entitled to be consulted ; but as he has returned none of them , I can no longer delay answering youand I think myself

autho-, rized to say that your attention and respect to the Grand Lodge of Scotland entitle you to their protection and approbation , and if I thought any instructions were necessary in the present case , should be happy to convey them , but as I

understand by your letter that you have a copy of a Book , published by Mr . Laurie , I refer you to it for any information you may want . You are perfectly right as to holding no intercourse with the lodge you mention , or with any one that does not regularly hold of the Grand Lodge . And as the

Lodge St . Mungo's is the oldest in Glasgowexcept Glasgow Kilwinning , which I believe is extinct — you are entitled to precedence , and I have no doubt , Sir , but under your auspices the business will be conducted in the manner the occasion merits . With best wishes for the under

taking intended to perpetuate the virtues and valour of our gallant , and ever-to-be regretted hero , as well as for the harmony of the meeting , " I remain , R . W . Sir and Bro ., yours with esteem , '' WILLIAM GUTHRIE . Gd . Secy . "To M . James Young , Junr ., R . W . M ., St . Mungo's Lodge , Glasgow . " ( To be contimied . )

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