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The Antiquity Of Masonic Degrees.

THE ANTIQUITY OF MASONIC DEGREES .

LONDON , SATURDAY , FEBRUARY li , 1863 .

( From a Correspondent ?) The great length to which my remarks have already extended in the pages of THE MAGAZINE would seem , of necessity , in itself silently to protest against any protracted abuse of so valuable a privilege . Indeed , these hastand unstudied observations would now

y have finally been brought to a close , had not THE MAGAZINE of February 1 th contained , in the correspondence , another letter from " Delta . " It is impossible not to be somewhat startled with the amusing complacency with which that letter begins ; for when we ransack the past numbers of THE

MAGAZINE in order to ascertain the proof which " must indeed be evident to any impartial reader , " we find , DO doubt , the maximum of assertion , but we can only stumble upon the minimum of proof ; indeed , we may fairly say that proof is altogether Avanting . Not one scintilla of satisfactory witness , not one iota of historical evidence available to the enquirer , available even to Masons , has "Delta" yet offered to

us , beyond his own mere ipse dixit , either in respect of the superior antiquity of the Templar degree , or in respect of that still more extraordinary statement he hazards to-day , " that speculative Masonic ceremonies though equivalent , were yet distinct , separate , and entirely different from those of the operative Ereemasons . " Nowhad I been disposed to

, answer to "Delta , " and indulge alone in assertion or asseveration , simply to express my own firm conviction , or to enforce a favourite theory , I could soon have filled , with unhesitating eagerness , a much larger space then I even did . But wishing to bring the above matter to a simple and easy issue , namely , that

of credible evidence of historical accuracy alone— -all the remarks I have already troubled you with were carefully supported by the valuable and cogent authority of distinct , of straightforward , of unimpeachable , testimony' —testimony , too , alien from our Masonic body , and uninfluenced by Masonic prepossessions . Take for instance the evidence of Dr . Plat ; what can be more destructible than that of " Delta ' s " whole

theory r Yet of this competent witness , this serious antagonist , " Delta " does not condescend to take the slightest notice . And so in other particulars needless now to re- capitulate . Is it not , then , rather too hard that "Delta " should after all unhesitatingly assert that all those are partial readersnot impartialwho do not accept his

, , rough statements as indubitable proofs and historical facts ? Is it not , indeed , worse than childish to ignore the authority of credible witnesses , in order to advance the questionable importance and more than doubtful antiquity of some pet degree ? To cover the hopelessness of an untenable position ,

by the determined obtrusion of an unreasoning hypothesis , nothing has already tended so much to discredit Masonic historians , and to impede Masonic enquiry , as the random assertions of imaginative writers , and the unsupported dicta of an assumed infallibility . Let me then protest once more , in the pages of the MAGAZINE , against "Delta's "theory and " Delta ' s " assertion , as derogatory , most derogatory ,

The Antiquity Of Masonic Degrees.

to the dignity , the value , the very reality of our three most ancient degrees , Apprentice , Eellow- Craft , Master Mason . Let me conclude , Avith the assertion , supported as I have sought to support it , by clear and incontestible inferences , that no impartial student can compare

carefully together operative charges and speculative traditions , the usages of the one , the ceremonies of the other , the history of the past and the evidence of the present , without feeling convinced of the superior antiquity of our three Craft degrees , without being completely satisfied in his own mind that operative and speculative Masonry are indeed the same . "R liOK .

New Materials For The Life Of John Flaxman, R.A.

NEW MATERIALS FOR THE LIFE OF JOHN FLAXMAN , R . A .

From the Builder . My father brought a full-stored mind to the life of the greatest of English sculptors—John Elaxman . He himself knew Elaxman , —had heard him deliver his lectures before the Royal Academy , —was always a curious enquirer about the of the man he

ways admired , —and sat down to his work with a determination to write a life that would live . Nor was he content with such advantages alone . He sat with the great sculptor's sister and sister-in-law ( Miss Elaxman and Miss Denman , his nearest surviving relations , ) talked unreservedly with them about our

English Phidias , and made Boswellian notes before them , which he enlarged at home . He questioned Elaxman ' s great rival in his latter life—Sir Erahcis Chantrey , —and Sir Richard Westmacott , his competitor , in the full swing of his mid-career reputation . Chantrey knew little about Elaxman ; but that little

, from so observing a man , was all to the point . What Westmacott had to tell ( or rather had not to tell , ) I have often heard my father relate with a smile , always ending in a hearty laugh at Westmacott ' s idea of the wants of biography . "I called on Westmacott , in South Audley-street , by appointment , " my father was

wont to relate , " note-book in hand . He knew the object of my visit . ' I wish I could tell you , ' said Westmacott , ' anything about Elaxman that would be of use to yoti in your work ; but I cannot . Elaxman , sir , lived as if he did not belong to the world ; his ways were not our ways . He had odd fashions ; he dressed—you know how he dressedhe dined at

; one ; wrought after dinner , which no other artist does ; drank tea at six ; and then , sir , no one ever found him in the evening parties of the rich or the noble : he was happy at home , and so he kept himself . Of all the members of the academy , the man Avhom I know least is Elaxman . ' In this " father Avas

way , my wont to observe , " Westmacott continued to talk to me about Elaxman . He answered all my questions directly and to the point . You will readily guess , " he Avould end by saying , and with a hearty laugh ( still pleasantly ringing in my ears ) " Westmacott ' s notion of the wants of biograph . I thanked him , .

y and withdreAV . I had obtained , unknown to Westmacott , the very information I wanted from him . When Chantrey was little or nothing more than a raw Derbyshire lad in London , working in clay , with slender prospects of translating his labours into marble , he Avent to the Royal Academy Exhibition ,

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TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 2
GRAND LODGE PROPERTY. Article 2
THE ANTIQUITY OF MASONIC DEGREES. Article 3
NEW MATERIALS FOR THE LIFE OF JOHN FLAXMAN, R.A. Article 3
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 5
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 8
MR. HALLIWELL NO COWAN. Article 9
THE GRAND LODGE OF SCOTLAND. Article 9
ANTIQUITY OF MASONIC DEGREES. Article 10
WHAT HAS ST. JOHN THE DIVINE TO DO WITH ENGLISH MASONRY. Article 11
NATIONAL SONG FOR THE PRINCE OF WALES. Article 11
THE MASONIC MIRROR. Article 12
METROPOLITAN. Article 12
PROVINCIAL. Article 13
INDIA. Article 18
ROYAL ARCH. Article 20
THE WEEK. Article 21
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 22
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The Antiquity Of Masonic Degrees.

THE ANTIQUITY OF MASONIC DEGREES .

LONDON , SATURDAY , FEBRUARY li , 1863 .

( From a Correspondent ?) The great length to which my remarks have already extended in the pages of THE MAGAZINE would seem , of necessity , in itself silently to protest against any protracted abuse of so valuable a privilege . Indeed , these hastand unstudied observations would now

y have finally been brought to a close , had not THE MAGAZINE of February 1 th contained , in the correspondence , another letter from " Delta . " It is impossible not to be somewhat startled with the amusing complacency with which that letter begins ; for when we ransack the past numbers of THE

MAGAZINE in order to ascertain the proof which " must indeed be evident to any impartial reader , " we find , DO doubt , the maximum of assertion , but we can only stumble upon the minimum of proof ; indeed , we may fairly say that proof is altogether Avanting . Not one scintilla of satisfactory witness , not one iota of historical evidence available to the enquirer , available even to Masons , has "Delta" yet offered to

us , beyond his own mere ipse dixit , either in respect of the superior antiquity of the Templar degree , or in respect of that still more extraordinary statement he hazards to-day , " that speculative Masonic ceremonies though equivalent , were yet distinct , separate , and entirely different from those of the operative Ereemasons . " Nowhad I been disposed to

, answer to "Delta , " and indulge alone in assertion or asseveration , simply to express my own firm conviction , or to enforce a favourite theory , I could soon have filled , with unhesitating eagerness , a much larger space then I even did . But wishing to bring the above matter to a simple and easy issue , namely , that

of credible evidence of historical accuracy alone— -all the remarks I have already troubled you with were carefully supported by the valuable and cogent authority of distinct , of straightforward , of unimpeachable , testimony' —testimony , too , alien from our Masonic body , and uninfluenced by Masonic prepossessions . Take for instance the evidence of Dr . Plat ; what can be more destructible than that of " Delta ' s " whole

theory r Yet of this competent witness , this serious antagonist , " Delta " does not condescend to take the slightest notice . And so in other particulars needless now to re- capitulate . Is it not , then , rather too hard that "Delta " should after all unhesitatingly assert that all those are partial readersnot impartialwho do not accept his

, , rough statements as indubitable proofs and historical facts ? Is it not , indeed , worse than childish to ignore the authority of credible witnesses , in order to advance the questionable importance and more than doubtful antiquity of some pet degree ? To cover the hopelessness of an untenable position ,

by the determined obtrusion of an unreasoning hypothesis , nothing has already tended so much to discredit Masonic historians , and to impede Masonic enquiry , as the random assertions of imaginative writers , and the unsupported dicta of an assumed infallibility . Let me then protest once more , in the pages of the MAGAZINE , against "Delta's "theory and " Delta ' s " assertion , as derogatory , most derogatory ,

The Antiquity Of Masonic Degrees.

to the dignity , the value , the very reality of our three most ancient degrees , Apprentice , Eellow- Craft , Master Mason . Let me conclude , Avith the assertion , supported as I have sought to support it , by clear and incontestible inferences , that no impartial student can compare

carefully together operative charges and speculative traditions , the usages of the one , the ceremonies of the other , the history of the past and the evidence of the present , without feeling convinced of the superior antiquity of our three Craft degrees , without being completely satisfied in his own mind that operative and speculative Masonry are indeed the same . "R liOK .

New Materials For The Life Of John Flaxman, R.A.

NEW MATERIALS FOR THE LIFE OF JOHN FLAXMAN , R . A .

From the Builder . My father brought a full-stored mind to the life of the greatest of English sculptors—John Elaxman . He himself knew Elaxman , —had heard him deliver his lectures before the Royal Academy , —was always a curious enquirer about the of the man he

ways admired , —and sat down to his work with a determination to write a life that would live . Nor was he content with such advantages alone . He sat with the great sculptor's sister and sister-in-law ( Miss Elaxman and Miss Denman , his nearest surviving relations , ) talked unreservedly with them about our

English Phidias , and made Boswellian notes before them , which he enlarged at home . He questioned Elaxman ' s great rival in his latter life—Sir Erahcis Chantrey , —and Sir Richard Westmacott , his competitor , in the full swing of his mid-career reputation . Chantrey knew little about Elaxman ; but that little

, from so observing a man , was all to the point . What Westmacott had to tell ( or rather had not to tell , ) I have often heard my father relate with a smile , always ending in a hearty laugh at Westmacott ' s idea of the wants of biography . "I called on Westmacott , in South Audley-street , by appointment , " my father was

wont to relate , " note-book in hand . He knew the object of my visit . ' I wish I could tell you , ' said Westmacott , ' anything about Elaxman that would be of use to yoti in your work ; but I cannot . Elaxman , sir , lived as if he did not belong to the world ; his ways were not our ways . He had odd fashions ; he dressed—you know how he dressedhe dined at

; one ; wrought after dinner , which no other artist does ; drank tea at six ; and then , sir , no one ever found him in the evening parties of the rich or the noble : he was happy at home , and so he kept himself . Of all the members of the academy , the man Avhom I know least is Elaxman . ' In this " father Avas

way , my wont to observe , " Westmacott continued to talk to me about Elaxman . He answered all my questions directly and to the point . You will readily guess , " he Avould end by saying , and with a hearty laugh ( still pleasantly ringing in my ears ) " Westmacott ' s notion of the wants of biograph . I thanked him , .

y and withdreAV . I had obtained , unknown to Westmacott , the very information I wanted from him . When Chantrey was little or nothing more than a raw Derbyshire lad in London , working in clay , with slender prospects of translating his labours into marble , he Avent to the Royal Academy Exhibition ,

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