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bodied in that letter appear to us to he the most practical that have yet appeared . If uniformity of ritual is not obtainable on your side of the border , it is still more lamentably deficient in Scotland , for here , not only with respect to ritual , but also with clothing , "each one does that -which is right in his own eyes . " We cannot speak as you do of the Vlue

degrees , for here Craft Masonry assumes all the colours of the rainbow , and the materials of the apron may be either silk , satin , or lambskin . These , with other and more serious anomalies ( to which I do not wish at present to allude ) arise , as G . W . W . observes , from "the want of controlling power . ' ' Clothing

may be one of the non-essentials , but that , with other proofs of want of uniformity , has tended to make English Masons at times sarcastic on their Scotch brethren , though G . W . W . has ihe candour to say he has seen good working here . If Bros . Buchan , Scotus , Pictus , Melville , Smith ,

Lyon , aud other learned Scotch Masons , would join with Bros . Crux , Crescent , Hughan , Yarker , Hyde Clarke , and others , in devoting some of their spare time to improving the present position of the Order , it might be quite as profitable as speculating on the precise time that speculative Masonry dates from . The present honour and future prosperity of the Order are surely of more importance than guesses , however ingenious , concerning the history of the

past , especially when we know that our ancient brethren were so particular that no kind of written or printed documents should be allowed to exist that could in anv way impart a knowledge of our doings to the " pro ' fane !" Let us , then , devote ourselves to improving the

present position of the Craft ; let the three sister Grand Lodges take up the matter in earnest ; let the suggested plan , or some other to be evolved , be considered fully , discussed fairly , and , when approved of , acted on . Let us remove the reproach that at the present attaches to us allviz ., thatwhile

boast-, , ing of belonging to an Order whose branches are spread over the whole habitable globe , with brethren known to each other in every country of the earth , we yet are so ill organized that , not merely on different sides of the Tweed or Irish Channel do we work differentlybut even in the same townand

, , often even in the same lodge-room , there is a -marked distinction iu the ceremonies aud ritual . Here is a large field that wants cultivation ; here is a theme for your ablest correspondents . The cry has been started in England ; it is re echoed from Ireland , and it will meet with a response in the heart of every true

Craftsman who hails from Caledonia , as well as—Yours fraternally , A SCOTCH MASON . Glasgow , November 7 th .

OUR BROTHER BUCHAK TO THE EDITOR OP THE FllEEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MinHOR . Dear Sir and Brother , —A distinguished Mason writes as follows : — " Our Bro . Buchan has great zeal , and , what is better , he has judgment and caution . He comes to no conclusion until he has got at the facts , and until he has ascertained the nature of those facts ; and ,

moreover , he knows well how to pull each fact to pieces , and thus more surely estimate its value , " ISTow , there is in D . G . M . Manningham ' s letter , Freemasons' Magazine , Vol . 19 , page 133 , this passage : — " I conversed lately with one old brother of 90 . This brother assures me he was made a Mason

in his youth , and has constantly frequented lodges till rendered incapable by his advanced age , and never heard or knew of any other ceremonies or words than those used in general amongst us ; such forms were delivered to him , and those he has retained . " This passagealthough at one time it attracted a

, good deal of notice , has never been critically examined . Will the able Brother Buchan undertake that task ? Does the passage constitute a fact worthy of consideration ? D . G . M . Manningham ' s letter is dated July , 1757 . Must it be taken that the " one old brother of 90 " was " made a Mason ' ' in the 17 th

century ? and , if so , can the " ceremonies and words used in general amongst us , " and the " forms delivered and retained , " be understood to mean speculative Masonry ? Above is verbatim what a distinguished Mason has writtenand I now forward it to the editor of our

, periodical , to be disposed of in such way as , in his discretion , he shall see fit . Yours fraternally , A PAST PROVINCIAL GRAND MASTER .

AUXILIARY LODGES . TO THE EDITOE OP THE PnEEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIEBOB . Dear Sir and Brother , —Iu reply to ( JI B . ^ , in the Freemasons' Magazine of last week , I can inform him that in Calcuttawhere the lodges are worked as

, well as they are in England , that we frequently gave ( press of business requiring ) the three degrees on the same evening in separate rooms , the W . M . of the lodge presiding in one room and a P . M ., with competent staff , officiating in the other ; all the brethren being present when the lodge was

opened , and all also being present when the lodge was closed , the Secretary recording on the minutes the records of the officers officiating in each room . Of course the hall was adapted for the purpose , having separate entrances , & c , to each room . I cannot understand how the propriety of such an arrangement

can be questioned . Youis fraternally , P . D . D . G . M .

PALESTINE EXPLORATION FUND . —An influential meeting was held in the large room of the Town Hall , Newark , on Monday last , for the formation of a local association in aid of the exploration of Palestine . The Eight Hon . the Speaker of the House of Commons occupied the chair , in which he was supported by the Bishop of Lincoln , Earl Manners , Mr . Hodgkinson , M . P ., Canon

Mackenzie , and the Bev . M . Miller . Besides these gentlemen the meeting was addressed by Mr . Grove , the Hon . Sec . to the Fund , and Captain CW . Wilson , E . E . The room was crowded , and the statements of the speakers were received with great demonstrations of interest . A powerful local committee was formed , and tho amount subscribed exceeded £ 60 , a large amount being annual subscriptions .

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MASONIC DISCIPLINE AND THE RITUAL.—XXIII. Article 1
GRAND CHAPTER OF CANADA. Article 3
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MASONIC CELESTIAL MYSTERIES. Article 7
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 8
CORESPONDENCE. Article 10
MASONIC MEMS. Article 12
Craft Masonry. Article 12
SCOTTISH CONSTITUTION. Article 15
CHANNEL ISLANDS. Article 16
SOUTH AUSTRALIA. Article 16
MARK MASONRY. Article 17
RELIGIOUS AND MILITARY ORDER OF THE TEMPLE. Article 17
THEATRICAL AND MUSICAL NOTES. Article 17
REVIEWS. Article 17
Obituary. Article 18
CONSTANTINIAN ORDER OF THE KNIGHTS OF ST. GEORGE. Article 18
SCIENTIFIC MEETINGS FOR THE WEEK. Article 19
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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bodied in that letter appear to us to he the most practical that have yet appeared . If uniformity of ritual is not obtainable on your side of the border , it is still more lamentably deficient in Scotland , for here , not only with respect to ritual , but also with clothing , "each one does that -which is right in his own eyes . " We cannot speak as you do of the Vlue

degrees , for here Craft Masonry assumes all the colours of the rainbow , and the materials of the apron may be either silk , satin , or lambskin . These , with other and more serious anomalies ( to which I do not wish at present to allude ) arise , as G . W . W . observes , from "the want of controlling power . ' ' Clothing

may be one of the non-essentials , but that , with other proofs of want of uniformity , has tended to make English Masons at times sarcastic on their Scotch brethren , though G . W . W . has ihe candour to say he has seen good working here . If Bros . Buchan , Scotus , Pictus , Melville , Smith ,

Lyon , aud other learned Scotch Masons , would join with Bros . Crux , Crescent , Hughan , Yarker , Hyde Clarke , and others , in devoting some of their spare time to improving the present position of the Order , it might be quite as profitable as speculating on the precise time that speculative Masonry dates from . The present honour and future prosperity of the Order are surely of more importance than guesses , however ingenious , concerning the history of the

past , especially when we know that our ancient brethren were so particular that no kind of written or printed documents should be allowed to exist that could in anv way impart a knowledge of our doings to the " pro ' fane !" Let us , then , devote ourselves to improving the

present position of the Craft ; let the three sister Grand Lodges take up the matter in earnest ; let the suggested plan , or some other to be evolved , be considered fully , discussed fairly , and , when approved of , acted on . Let us remove the reproach that at the present attaches to us allviz ., thatwhile

boast-, , ing of belonging to an Order whose branches are spread over the whole habitable globe , with brethren known to each other in every country of the earth , we yet are so ill organized that , not merely on different sides of the Tweed or Irish Channel do we work differentlybut even in the same townand

, , often even in the same lodge-room , there is a -marked distinction iu the ceremonies aud ritual . Here is a large field that wants cultivation ; here is a theme for your ablest correspondents . The cry has been started in England ; it is re echoed from Ireland , and it will meet with a response in the heart of every true

Craftsman who hails from Caledonia , as well as—Yours fraternally , A SCOTCH MASON . Glasgow , November 7 th .

OUR BROTHER BUCHAK TO THE EDITOR OP THE FllEEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MinHOR . Dear Sir and Brother , —A distinguished Mason writes as follows : — " Our Bro . Buchan has great zeal , and , what is better , he has judgment and caution . He comes to no conclusion until he has got at the facts , and until he has ascertained the nature of those facts ; and ,

moreover , he knows well how to pull each fact to pieces , and thus more surely estimate its value , " ISTow , there is in D . G . M . Manningham ' s letter , Freemasons' Magazine , Vol . 19 , page 133 , this passage : — " I conversed lately with one old brother of 90 . This brother assures me he was made a Mason

in his youth , and has constantly frequented lodges till rendered incapable by his advanced age , and never heard or knew of any other ceremonies or words than those used in general amongst us ; such forms were delivered to him , and those he has retained . " This passagealthough at one time it attracted a

, good deal of notice , has never been critically examined . Will the able Brother Buchan undertake that task ? Does the passage constitute a fact worthy of consideration ? D . G . M . Manningham ' s letter is dated July , 1757 . Must it be taken that the " one old brother of 90 " was " made a Mason ' ' in the 17 th

century ? and , if so , can the " ceremonies and words used in general amongst us , " and the " forms delivered and retained , " be understood to mean speculative Masonry ? Above is verbatim what a distinguished Mason has writtenand I now forward it to the editor of our

, periodical , to be disposed of in such way as , in his discretion , he shall see fit . Yours fraternally , A PAST PROVINCIAL GRAND MASTER .

AUXILIARY LODGES . TO THE EDITOE OP THE PnEEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIEBOB . Dear Sir and Brother , —Iu reply to ( JI B . ^ , in the Freemasons' Magazine of last week , I can inform him that in Calcuttawhere the lodges are worked as

, well as they are in England , that we frequently gave ( press of business requiring ) the three degrees on the same evening in separate rooms , the W . M . of the lodge presiding in one room and a P . M ., with competent staff , officiating in the other ; all the brethren being present when the lodge was

opened , and all also being present when the lodge was closed , the Secretary recording on the minutes the records of the officers officiating in each room . Of course the hall was adapted for the purpose , having separate entrances , & c , to each room . I cannot understand how the propriety of such an arrangement

can be questioned . Youis fraternally , P . D . D . G . M .

PALESTINE EXPLORATION FUND . —An influential meeting was held in the large room of the Town Hall , Newark , on Monday last , for the formation of a local association in aid of the exploration of Palestine . The Eight Hon . the Speaker of the House of Commons occupied the chair , in which he was supported by the Bishop of Lincoln , Earl Manners , Mr . Hodgkinson , M . P ., Canon

Mackenzie , and the Bev . M . Miller . Besides these gentlemen the meeting was addressed by Mr . Grove , the Hon . Sec . to the Fund , and Captain CW . Wilson , E . E . The room was crowded , and the statements of the speakers were received with great demonstrations of interest . A powerful local committee was formed , and tho amount subscribed exceeded £ 60 , a large amount being annual subscriptions .

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