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United Geand Lodge.

his practice . After a very careful investigation ( and there was no hasty legislation , as Bro . Stebbing stated ) , they had come to the conclusion that ifc was illegal . In 1817 the question came before the Grand Lodge , when the President of the Board stated ifc in much the same terms as he did then , and it iA * as

held that compounding for the quarterage to the Grand Lodge Avas illegal , unless there was a regular subscription to another lodge . That was the law then , aud ifc Avas the laAv now ; and the Board of General Purposes would not have discharged ids duty to the Grand Lodge if it had failed to make a report and state their opinion upon it .

The Grand Eegistrar said the Grand Lodge had Avandered from the subject before it . The Board of General Purposes merely declared what the law was ; bufc they did not propose to make any new law upon the subject . As to the matter referred to by Bro . Stebbing , with regard to the marriage with a deceased wife's sister , that had been contrary to the law of

England for all time ; but in 1835 the Government submitted to what had been clone in the past ancl declared such marriages to be legal , but illegal for the future . In the same way Grand Lodge coull declare what had been done was legal , but Avould not be so for the future . The only Avish of the Board was , to declare what is the law , and that Grand Lodge had confirmed .

The amendment was hardly in order , ancl he suggested that the proper course would be to carry the resolution proposed by the Board of General Purposes rather than have new legislation upon ifc . Bro . Latham , J . G . D ., trusted that the report Avould go back to the Board of General Purposes , to carry out Avhat he

believed to be a useful principle in Freemasonry , ivhich ivas compounding for subscriptions ivhen the member could not be present . He believed the principle of composition ought to be

encouraged , rather than discouraged . Bro . Symonds , P . G . Assist . Dir . of Cers ., said he could not vote for these practices being declared illegal . If the law was not clear and distinct , the Board of General Purposes should bring up a recommendation to make it clear . If there Avas any doubt as to the interpretation of the law , then let the Board

introduce words to make it clear . The G . Master did not think the amendment would have the object in view , and he agreed Avitb the G . Registrar thafc this Avas no amendment of the law . Bro . Havers , P . G . W ., said that composition might be desirable in some cases , but very mischievous in some parts of the country

Avhere a man could compound for 10 s . for the rest of his life . He might thus come and take his seat in Grand Lodge for all time , and himself anil children become recipients of their Charities , but it was a very different thing ivith the Universities of Oxford or Cambridge . The Board of General Purposes had laid down the law , and it ivould not do to send it back to them

and say , " We do not accept your opinion that that is the law . " If tbey declared that night , and confirmed it at the next Grand Lodge it would be as much law as any other part of the " Book of Constitutions . " He saw no objection to the report , but thought it ivould be better to refer ifc back to the Board of General Purposes to consider ivhat alterations should be made

in the laws , or how far the compositions could be allowed . Bro . Spiers said they had sent their by-laws to the Grand Secretary for approval , and having acted upon them for fourteen years they ivere now told that they had acted illegally in what they had done . After a few words from Bro . Horsley , The G . Master put Bro . Stebbings' motion , Avhich was negatived by a large majority .

Bro . Havers then moved a further amendment— " That the report be adopted , and that it be referred to the Board of General Purposes to consider and report to the Grand Lodge whether and , and if so , Avbat alterations ifc may be desirable to make in reference to permitting members to compound for their dues . " This was seconded and put , and agreed to .

It being now past eleven o'clock , under the regulations no new matter could be commenced , so that all the rest of the business on the paper was deferred until the next meeting . The Grand Lodge was then closed with solemn prayer , and broke up at half-past eleven o ' clock . The following are the important subjects not disposed of , and will bave to be considered at the next quarterly communication : —

The annual report of the Royal Masonic Benevolent Institutiau for Aged Freemasons , and the Widows of Freemason ? , will be laid before the Grand Lodge , and the following proposed alteration of the laws , which was agreed to at the annual general meeting of the Institution , held on Friday , the 15 th May , will be submitted for the approval of Grand Lodge , viz .: — " In the

event of any annuitant , male or female , residing in the Asylum becoming insane , subject to fits , or otherwise incapable of taking care of himself or herself , it shall be lawful for the Committee of Management to make such arrangement as they deem advisable for his or her removal and maintenance , not exceeding the amount of his or her annuity , or to withhold or suspend his or her annuity , if the Committee think fit to do so . "

PEOPOSED MOTIONS . By Bro . Henry G . Warren , P . M . Grand Steward ' s Lodge : 1 . To add to Eule 9 , page 21— " All brethren , being members of Grand Lodge , may have such papers of business and notices of special Grand Lodge meetings forwarded to them by post on registering their addresses and paying a fee of 5 s . per annum in

advance . " 2 . To repeal clause 4 , page 30 , of the " Book of Constitutions . "

By Bro . tbe Rev . Robert J . Simpson , G . Chap .: 3 . That ; the following brethren constitute a Committee to carry out the resolutions passed at the last Grand Lodge in reference to the celebration of the twenty-fifth anniversary of the Most Worshipful Grand Master ' s accession to office as Grand Master of England : —Deputy Grand Master ; all Provincial

Grand Masters ex officio ; Lord Eliot , P . G . W . ; J . Haver ? , P . G . W . ; Eev . R . J . Simpson , G . Chap . ; S . Tomkins , G . Treas . ; M . J . Mclntyre , G . Reg . ; J . LI . Evans , President of Board of General Purposes ; A . W . Woods , G . Dir . of Cers . ; Hervey , Savage , Head , and G . Cox , P . G . D ' s . ; Symonds , P . G . Assist . Dir . of Cers . ; Young , P . G . S . B . ; J . Smith , P . G . Purst . ; Mason ,

P . G . S . B . ; Sharps , LL . D ., P : G . S . ; B . Baker , P . G . S . ; E . Cox , Bermock , P . G . S . ; Adlard ; Rev . Sir J . Hayes , P . G . Chap . Berks ; Cope , P . G . S . B . Cheshire ; Deighfcon , P . G . D . and Evans , Cambridge ; Powell , Bristol ; S . Leith Tomkins , P . G . S . ; Metham , P . G . D . Devonshire ; Coombs , Dorset ; Crosby , Durham ; Meggy Essex ; Newmarcb , Gloster ; Stebbing , P . G . D . Hunts ; Hyde

Pullen , P . G . S . B . Isle of Wight ; R . Callender , Bust Lancashire ; Kelly , Leicester ; Rev . C . Martin , Norfolk ; Dr . Goldsbro , ' North Wales ; Inns , Northampton ; R . Alien , Nottingham ; Earl Percy and Spiers , P . G . S . B . Oxford ; Bridges , P . G . S . B . Somerset ; David Williams , South Wales ; Dorling , Suffolk ; Morrison , Surrey ; G . E . Poeock , P . G . S . B . Sussex ; C . E . Winnington , Warwick ; E . Buslier , P . G . S . B . Westmoreland ; Sir D . Gooch , P . G . S . B . ; Dr . Bell , Yorkshire , N . andE . ; Bentley

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EARS OF WHEAT FROM A CORNUCOPIA. Article 4
THE KNIGHTS TEMPLARS. Article 7
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 9
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 10
DR. ROB. MORRIS AND FREEMASONRY AT DAMASCUS. Article 10
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CHANNEL ISLANDS. Article 18
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MEETINGS OF THE LEARNED SOCIETIES FOR THE WEEK ENDING JUNE 20TH, 1868. Article 20
METROPOLITAN LODGE MEETINGS, ETC., FOR THE WEEK ENDING JUNE 20TH, 1868. Article 20
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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United Geand Lodge.

his practice . After a very careful investigation ( and there was no hasty legislation , as Bro . Stebbing stated ) , they had come to the conclusion that ifc was illegal . In 1817 the question came before the Grand Lodge , when the President of the Board stated ifc in much the same terms as he did then , and it iA * as

held that compounding for the quarterage to the Grand Lodge Avas illegal , unless there was a regular subscription to another lodge . That was the law then , aud ifc Avas the laAv now ; and the Board of General Purposes would not have discharged ids duty to the Grand Lodge if it had failed to make a report and state their opinion upon it .

The Grand Eegistrar said the Grand Lodge had Avandered from the subject before it . The Board of General Purposes merely declared what the law was ; bufc they did not propose to make any new law upon the subject . As to the matter referred to by Bro . Stebbing , with regard to the marriage with a deceased wife's sister , that had been contrary to the law of

England for all time ; but in 1835 the Government submitted to what had been clone in the past ancl declared such marriages to be legal , but illegal for the future . In the same way Grand Lodge coull declare what had been done was legal , but Avould not be so for the future . The only Avish of the Board was , to declare what is the law , and that Grand Lodge had confirmed .

The amendment was hardly in order , ancl he suggested that the proper course would be to carry the resolution proposed by the Board of General Purposes rather than have new legislation upon ifc . Bro . Latham , J . G . D ., trusted that the report Avould go back to the Board of General Purposes , to carry out Avhat he

believed to be a useful principle in Freemasonry , ivhich ivas compounding for subscriptions ivhen the member could not be present . He believed the principle of composition ought to be

encouraged , rather than discouraged . Bro . Symonds , P . G . Assist . Dir . of Cers ., said he could not vote for these practices being declared illegal . If the law was not clear and distinct , the Board of General Purposes should bring up a recommendation to make it clear . If there Avas any doubt as to the interpretation of the law , then let the Board

introduce words to make it clear . The G . Master did not think the amendment would have the object in view , and he agreed Avitb the G . Registrar thafc this Avas no amendment of the law . Bro . Havers , P . G . W ., said that composition might be desirable in some cases , but very mischievous in some parts of the country

Avhere a man could compound for 10 s . for the rest of his life . He might thus come and take his seat in Grand Lodge for all time , and himself anil children become recipients of their Charities , but it was a very different thing ivith the Universities of Oxford or Cambridge . The Board of General Purposes had laid down the law , and it ivould not do to send it back to them

and say , " We do not accept your opinion that that is the law . " If tbey declared that night , and confirmed it at the next Grand Lodge it would be as much law as any other part of the " Book of Constitutions . " He saw no objection to the report , but thought it ivould be better to refer ifc back to the Board of General Purposes to consider ivhat alterations should be made

in the laws , or how far the compositions could be allowed . Bro . Spiers said they had sent their by-laws to the Grand Secretary for approval , and having acted upon them for fourteen years they ivere now told that they had acted illegally in what they had done . After a few words from Bro . Horsley , The G . Master put Bro . Stebbings' motion , Avhich was negatived by a large majority .

Bro . Havers then moved a further amendment— " That the report be adopted , and that it be referred to the Board of General Purposes to consider and report to the Grand Lodge whether and , and if so , Avbat alterations ifc may be desirable to make in reference to permitting members to compound for their dues . " This was seconded and put , and agreed to .

It being now past eleven o'clock , under the regulations no new matter could be commenced , so that all the rest of the business on the paper was deferred until the next meeting . The Grand Lodge was then closed with solemn prayer , and broke up at half-past eleven o ' clock . The following are the important subjects not disposed of , and will bave to be considered at the next quarterly communication : —

The annual report of the Royal Masonic Benevolent Institutiau for Aged Freemasons , and the Widows of Freemason ? , will be laid before the Grand Lodge , and the following proposed alteration of the laws , which was agreed to at the annual general meeting of the Institution , held on Friday , the 15 th May , will be submitted for the approval of Grand Lodge , viz .: — " In the

event of any annuitant , male or female , residing in the Asylum becoming insane , subject to fits , or otherwise incapable of taking care of himself or herself , it shall be lawful for the Committee of Management to make such arrangement as they deem advisable for his or her removal and maintenance , not exceeding the amount of his or her annuity , or to withhold or suspend his or her annuity , if the Committee think fit to do so . "

PEOPOSED MOTIONS . By Bro . Henry G . Warren , P . M . Grand Steward ' s Lodge : 1 . To add to Eule 9 , page 21— " All brethren , being members of Grand Lodge , may have such papers of business and notices of special Grand Lodge meetings forwarded to them by post on registering their addresses and paying a fee of 5 s . per annum in

advance . " 2 . To repeal clause 4 , page 30 , of the " Book of Constitutions . "

By Bro . tbe Rev . Robert J . Simpson , G . Chap .: 3 . That ; the following brethren constitute a Committee to carry out the resolutions passed at the last Grand Lodge in reference to the celebration of the twenty-fifth anniversary of the Most Worshipful Grand Master ' s accession to office as Grand Master of England : —Deputy Grand Master ; all Provincial

Grand Masters ex officio ; Lord Eliot , P . G . W . ; J . Haver ? , P . G . W . ; Eev . R . J . Simpson , G . Chap . ; S . Tomkins , G . Treas . ; M . J . Mclntyre , G . Reg . ; J . LI . Evans , President of Board of General Purposes ; A . W . Woods , G . Dir . of Cers . ; Hervey , Savage , Head , and G . Cox , P . G . D ' s . ; Symonds , P . G . Assist . Dir . of Cers . ; Young , P . G . S . B . ; J . Smith , P . G . Purst . ; Mason ,

P . G . S . B . ; Sharps , LL . D ., P : G . S . ; B . Baker , P . G . S . ; E . Cox , Bermock , P . G . S . ; Adlard ; Rev . Sir J . Hayes , P . G . Chap . Berks ; Cope , P . G . S . B . Cheshire ; Deighfcon , P . G . D . and Evans , Cambridge ; Powell , Bristol ; S . Leith Tomkins , P . G . S . ; Metham , P . G . D . Devonshire ; Coombs , Dorset ; Crosby , Durham ; Meggy Essex ; Newmarcb , Gloster ; Stebbing , P . G . D . Hunts ; Hyde

Pullen , P . G . S . B . Isle of Wight ; R . Callender , Bust Lancashire ; Kelly , Leicester ; Rev . C . Martin , Norfolk ; Dr . Goldsbro , ' North Wales ; Inns , Northampton ; R . Alien , Nottingham ; Earl Percy and Spiers , P . G . S . B . Oxford ; Bridges , P . G . S . B . Somerset ; David Williams , South Wales ; Dorling , Suffolk ; Morrison , Surrey ; G . E . Poeock , P . G . S . B . Sussex ; C . E . Winnington , Warwick ; E . Buslier , P . G . S . B . Westmoreland ; Sir D . Gooch , P . G . S . B . ; Dr . Bell , Yorkshire , N . andE . ; Bentley

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