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Grand Lodge.

notified that they had refused to grant the Avarrant . He Avas sure Grand Lodge Avould receive this communication Avith the greatest satisfaction as evidencing the truly Masonie spirit which actuated the Grand Lodge of Ireland , and as tending to preserve the intimate and friendly relations which happily subsisted betiA-een the Grand Lodges of Ireland and England . ( Cheers ) .

Bro . GIEATTD , P . G . D ., said if both reports were to he taken into consideration that evening , it was impossable that they could come to any conclusion or resolution upon them , until those reports had been read . At the former Grand Lodge they had on the paper of business a report from the Colonial Board , which it became necessary to defer in consequence of the hourf and therefore he held that ifc would be most inexpedient

that both reports should be taken into consideration together , or was ifc of such importance that they should depart from fche regular order , \ nd give -precedence to the report of that day . The report of the 19 th of February was before them , hut he had nofc heard ifc read . The GEAND MASTER said it had been suggested that if they took both reports togetherit would save a great deal of time .

, The report of the Colonial Board stood in regular order , and he liad no doubt that if both reports ivere taken together , in AA-ould be a saving of time . Bro . GBEGOBT , P . G . D ., said there Avas no doubt as to the regularity of their proceedings . The notice to receive the

report of the Colonial Board , of the 19 th of February , appeared ¦ on the first page of the agenda paper . That report was not only presented , but it ivas printed in exteuso , and ought to be in the . hands of every member of Grand Lodge . The GEAND MASTEE : —It was at the last meeting of Grand Lodge . Bro . GEEGOEAT said as his lordship had pronounced thafc the report Avas printedand in the hands of members at the last

, ¦ Grand Lodge , that was sufficient noiv to make it in order to proceed wifch it . Bro . HAA'EBS , J . G . W ., begged permission to offer a feAv words in justification of the Colonial Board , and he must say thafc the report had been printed , and sent to the houses of every Grand Officer , and afc Grand Lodge , every member had been furnished ivith a copy , and if that did not give any brother a full

opportunity of making himself acquainted Avith the contents of it , he really could not tell AA'hat more the Colonial Board could do . Every Master of a lodge had also had one sent to him , and he did hope that they would adhere to the common practice , that this report should be taken as read , as it had already been printed in -extenso , and that they should , Avithout more loss of time , at once proceed fco business . Bro . EA ' ANS said he Avould move that both reports of the Colonial Board be received , adopted , and entered on the minutes . Bro . WOODS , G . D . C , seconded the motion , which ivas put and adopted .

AUDIT or THE GEAND LODGE ACCOUNTS . The report of Bvo . C . P . Harding , auditor of the Grand Lodge accounts fur the year 1881 , wus brought lAp , ivhich was received and ordered to he entered on fche minutes . This report shoAved the receipts for the Fund of General Purposes to he £ 7120 lis . ( including £ 287 8 s . % d . from the last account ) and the expenses ( including £ 2996 10 s . invested in 3

, per cent , annuities ) , £ 6557 lis . lid ., leaving a balance in hand of £ 562 19 s . Id . The receipts on account of the Fund of Benevolence ( including £ 581 8 s . Wd . from the last account ) Avas £ 4195 Is . Gd ., and the expenditure ( including investment in Consols , £ 1378 2 s . Gd . ) , £ 1063 Us . Gd .

THE BOAED or BENEA-OLENCE . The report of the Board of Benevolence for the last quarter was brought up , ivhich , after stating fche sums ivith ivhich petitioners had been relieved at three meetings of the board , made recommendations to Grand Lodge , thafc thc following further sums should be granted . £ s . a .

Bro . J . S ., of the Eoyal York Lodge ( So . 39-1 ) , Brighton 30 0 0 „ S . W ., of the Lodge of Harmony ( No . 509 ) , Budleigh Salterton 40 0 0 „ T . S ., ofthe Wellington Lodge ( No . 126 ) , Rye 30 0 0 „ S . J . T ., of the Southern Cross Lodge ( No . 1095 ) , Tarrangower , Victoria 30 0 0 The Widow of the late Bro . W . li ., of the Eoyal Athelstan Lodge ( No . 19 ) , London 30 0 0

Grand Lodge.

The Widow of the late Bro . T . D ., of the Lodge of Felicity ( No . 66 ) , London 30 0 0 After a feAv observations from Bro . Tomkins , The GEAND MASTEE said he would , to save long speeches , read the names of the brethren to whom these grants were recommended , and if any brother had any objection to any of them , lie could express it ivhen he read the name . The whole of these grants were unanimously agreed" to .

.. EEPOET OE THE BOAED OP GENEBAL PUEPOSES . The GEAND EEGISTEE ( Bro . Mclntyre ) , said he had now to move that the report of the Board of General Purposes , as printed on the business paper , he taken as read . The GEAND MASTEB put the motion , ivhich was unanimously agreed to . The PRESIDENT or THE BOABD or GENEEAL PUEPOSES then moved thafc the report he received and entered on the

minutes . In agreeing to the motion that the report be received and entered ou the minutes , he Avished to say that by so doing , the Grand Lodge would not be pledged to adopt the report of fche Board of General Purposes in its entirity , or any part of it , and that when the proper time arrived when it was proposed to take action upon it , any amendments could be moved to ifc ivhich were receivable under the Boole of Constitutions . The Board of General Purposesto ivhom this subject AA-as referred ,

, had appointed a sub-committee to investigate the state of the property , and to make a report to Grand Lodge , and having performed that duty , they Avere only Availing for the favourable consideration of the members . That committee had held many meetings on the subject , and the result of those meetings was the report AA'hich Avas then laid before Grand Lodge , which they noiv recommended , not for their adoption , but for their favourable consideration . Before he proceeded further he could not refrain

from expressing his surprise , he might almost say fche dismay he felt Avhen on looking over the ordinary channel of Masonie information , he saAv a letter signed hy one of the committee of General Purposes , in Avhich he stated that the report was not agreed to by the committee , that it was produced already printed , and forced doivn the throats of the committee , and adopted hy the Board of General Purposes . NOAV he , as President of the Board of General Purposes , most distinctly denied that such Avas

the case , and although the report Avas printed for the general convenience of the members of the committee , it Avas fully discussed , and many amendments were moved and alterations made in it , and the brother AA'ho had been pleased to Avrite the letter to

ivhich he had referred , was not the least eager to move amendments , although those amendments were not adopted . They then had a further long meeting to consider the report as amended , and then it was adopted . The report was again printed , and was now before the Grand Lodge . He had felt it to be only his duty to make this statement , in consequence of the attack Avhich had so improperly been made upon the committee , andin conclusionmoved that the report be received and entered

, , on the minutes . Bro . ROXBHEGH , P . G . Reg ., seconded the motion . Bro . HEEBEET LLOATD , P . G . D ., Avished the M . W . Grand Master Avould give them a special day to consider this report , as the recommendations in ifc Avere so important . It proposed to pull doivn that tavern Avith all the buildings connected ivith the Grand Secretary's office , and to lei'el the ground for building

purposes . When such propositions as these AA-ere made , they ought to have ample time to consider them . Bro . STEBBING said he rose most unwillingly to call Bro . Lloyd to order . It Avas then most inconvenient to discuss the merits of the report or the motive for its adoption . AVhen action Avas about to be taken , then Avould he the proper time to discuss its merits , and not on the motion for the reception of the report .

Bro . H . LLOATD thanked Bro . Stebbing for his observations , but he Avas wrong in supposing that he was aboufc discussing the merits of this report , for in it he found there were recommendations that their property should be offered to responsible persons on building leases . Now he said distinctly that Grand Lodge had no power to grant these leases , and as this was a matter of great importance he did hope that his lordship would appoint a special clay upon which they miht

g fully consider it . The report raised a question which involved a total alienation of their funded property , and if carried out the whole of the funds of Grand Lodge might be entirely dissipated . He suggested , in conclusion , that his lordship should propose a special day for its consideration .

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THE GRAND LODGE AND " THE FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE." Article 1
THE GRAND LODGE PROPERTY. Article 2
ANOTHER REGULARITY. Article 3
MASONIC FACTS . Article 4
THE LANDMARKS OF FREEMASONRY. Article 5
ARCHITECTURE OF PALESTINE FROM THE EARLIEST TIMES TO THE CRUSADES. Article 7
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 9
Untitled Article 10
MASONIC MEM. Article 10
GRAND LODGE. Article 10
METROPOLITAN. Article 14
PROVINCIAL. Article 15
ROYAL ARCH. Article 17
MARK HAS0NRY. Article 18
THE WEEK. Article 19
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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Grand Lodge.

notified that they had refused to grant the Avarrant . He Avas sure Grand Lodge Avould receive this communication Avith the greatest satisfaction as evidencing the truly Masonie spirit which actuated the Grand Lodge of Ireland , and as tending to preserve the intimate and friendly relations which happily subsisted betiA-een the Grand Lodges of Ireland and England . ( Cheers ) .

Bro . GIEATTD , P . G . D ., said if both reports were to he taken into consideration that evening , it was impossable that they could come to any conclusion or resolution upon them , until those reports had been read . At the former Grand Lodge they had on the paper of business a report from the Colonial Board , which it became necessary to defer in consequence of the hourf and therefore he held that ifc would be most inexpedient

that both reports should be taken into consideration together , or was ifc of such importance that they should depart from fche regular order , \ nd give -precedence to the report of that day . The report of the 19 th of February was before them , hut he had nofc heard ifc read . The GEAND MASTER said it had been suggested that if they took both reports togetherit would save a great deal of time .

, The report of the Colonial Board stood in regular order , and he liad no doubt that if both reports ivere taken together , in AA-ould be a saving of time . Bro . GBEGOBT , P . G . D ., said there Avas no doubt as to the regularity of their proceedings . The notice to receive the

report of the Colonial Board , of the 19 th of February , appeared ¦ on the first page of the agenda paper . That report was not only presented , but it ivas printed in exteuso , and ought to be in the . hands of every member of Grand Lodge . The GEAND MASTEE : —It was at the last meeting of Grand Lodge . Bro . GEEGOEAT said as his lordship had pronounced thafc the report Avas printedand in the hands of members at the last

, ¦ Grand Lodge , that was sufficient noiv to make it in order to proceed wifch it . Bro . HAA'EBS , J . G . W ., begged permission to offer a feAv words in justification of the Colonial Board , and he must say thafc the report had been printed , and sent to the houses of every Grand Officer , and afc Grand Lodge , every member had been furnished ivith a copy , and if that did not give any brother a full

opportunity of making himself acquainted Avith the contents of it , he really could not tell AA'hat more the Colonial Board could do . Every Master of a lodge had also had one sent to him , and he did hope that they would adhere to the common practice , that this report should be taken as read , as it had already been printed in -extenso , and that they should , Avithout more loss of time , at once proceed fco business . Bro . EA ' ANS said he Avould move that both reports of the Colonial Board be received , adopted , and entered on the minutes . Bro . WOODS , G . D . C , seconded the motion , which ivas put and adopted .

AUDIT or THE GEAND LODGE ACCOUNTS . The report of Bvo . C . P . Harding , auditor of the Grand Lodge accounts fur the year 1881 , wus brought lAp , ivhich was received and ordered to he entered on fche minutes . This report shoAved the receipts for the Fund of General Purposes to he £ 7120 lis . ( including £ 287 8 s . % d . from the last account ) and the expenses ( including £ 2996 10 s . invested in 3

, per cent , annuities ) , £ 6557 lis . lid ., leaving a balance in hand of £ 562 19 s . Id . The receipts on account of the Fund of Benevolence ( including £ 581 8 s . Wd . from the last account ) Avas £ 4195 Is . Gd ., and the expenditure ( including investment in Consols , £ 1378 2 s . Gd . ) , £ 1063 Us . Gd .

THE BOAED or BENEA-OLENCE . The report of the Board of Benevolence for the last quarter was brought up , ivhich , after stating fche sums ivith ivhich petitioners had been relieved at three meetings of the board , made recommendations to Grand Lodge , thafc thc following further sums should be granted . £ s . a .

Bro . J . S ., of the Eoyal York Lodge ( So . 39-1 ) , Brighton 30 0 0 „ S . W ., of the Lodge of Harmony ( No . 509 ) , Budleigh Salterton 40 0 0 „ T . S ., ofthe Wellington Lodge ( No . 126 ) , Rye 30 0 0 „ S . J . T ., of the Southern Cross Lodge ( No . 1095 ) , Tarrangower , Victoria 30 0 0 The Widow of the late Bro . W . li ., of the Eoyal Athelstan Lodge ( No . 19 ) , London 30 0 0

Grand Lodge.

The Widow of the late Bro . T . D ., of the Lodge of Felicity ( No . 66 ) , London 30 0 0 After a feAv observations from Bro . Tomkins , The GEAND MASTEE said he would , to save long speeches , read the names of the brethren to whom these grants were recommended , and if any brother had any objection to any of them , lie could express it ivhen he read the name . The whole of these grants were unanimously agreed" to .

.. EEPOET OE THE BOAED OP GENEBAL PUEPOSES . The GEAND EEGISTEE ( Bro . Mclntyre ) , said he had now to move that the report of the Board of General Purposes , as printed on the business paper , he taken as read . The GEAND MASTEB put the motion , ivhich was unanimously agreed to . The PRESIDENT or THE BOABD or GENEEAL PUEPOSES then moved thafc the report he received and entered on the

minutes . In agreeing to the motion that the report be received and entered ou the minutes , he Avished to say that by so doing , the Grand Lodge would not be pledged to adopt the report of fche Board of General Purposes in its entirity , or any part of it , and that when the proper time arrived when it was proposed to take action upon it , any amendments could be moved to ifc ivhich were receivable under the Boole of Constitutions . The Board of General Purposesto ivhom this subject AA-as referred ,

, had appointed a sub-committee to investigate the state of the property , and to make a report to Grand Lodge , and having performed that duty , they Avere only Availing for the favourable consideration of the members . That committee had held many meetings on the subject , and the result of those meetings was the report AA'hich Avas then laid before Grand Lodge , which they noiv recommended , not for their adoption , but for their favourable consideration . Before he proceeded further he could not refrain

from expressing his surprise , he might almost say fche dismay he felt Avhen on looking over the ordinary channel of Masonie information , he saAv a letter signed hy one of the committee of General Purposes , in Avhich he stated that the report was not agreed to by the committee , that it was produced already printed , and forced doivn the throats of the committee , and adopted hy the Board of General Purposes . NOAV he , as President of the Board of General Purposes , most distinctly denied that such Avas

the case , and although the report Avas printed for the general convenience of the members of the committee , it Avas fully discussed , and many amendments were moved and alterations made in it , and the brother AA'ho had been pleased to Avrite the letter to

ivhich he had referred , was not the least eager to move amendments , although those amendments were not adopted . They then had a further long meeting to consider the report as amended , and then it was adopted . The report was again printed , and was now before the Grand Lodge . He had felt it to be only his duty to make this statement , in consequence of the attack Avhich had so improperly been made upon the committee , andin conclusionmoved that the report be received and entered

, , on the minutes . Bro . ROXBHEGH , P . G . Reg ., seconded the motion . Bro . HEEBEET LLOATD , P . G . D ., Avished the M . W . Grand Master Avould give them a special day to consider this report , as the recommendations in ifc Avere so important . It proposed to pull doivn that tavern Avith all the buildings connected ivith the Grand Secretary's office , and to lei'el the ground for building

purposes . When such propositions as these AA-ere made , they ought to have ample time to consider them . Bro . STEBBING said he rose most unwillingly to call Bro . Lloyd to order . It Avas then most inconvenient to discuss the merits of the report or the motive for its adoption . AVhen action Avas about to be taken , then Avould he the proper time to discuss its merits , and not on the motion for the reception of the report .

Bro . H . LLOATD thanked Bro . Stebbing for his observations , but he Avas wrong in supposing that he was aboufc discussing the merits of this report , for in it he found there were recommendations that their property should be offered to responsible persons on building leases . Now he said distinctly that Grand Lodge had no power to grant these leases , and as this was a matter of great importance he did hope that his lordship would appoint a special clay upon which they miht

g fully consider it . The report raised a question which involved a total alienation of their funded property , and if carried out the whole of the funds of Grand Lodge might be entirely dissipated . He suggested , in conclusion , that his lordship should propose a special day for its consideration .

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