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Correspondence.

ness . Please , remember , however , that my offer only extends for two weeks following the reception of this letter . I allude to this so that no mistakes need be made which would lead to unpleasantness hereafter . I need not say to you that I am very lonely here , -and oftentimes low-spirited . It is a serious matter

for a man fifty years old to come so far and undertake so much . But my health is excellent . 1 have ¦ everything to encourage me , and I know I have your good wishes and prayers . We shall meet again next fall , when I shall have a thousand things to tell you ¦ of this grand mission , which reflects such honour upon those who got it up .

Don't fail to respond to this call at once . Direct your letters to Dr . Rob . Morris , Box 1653 , Chicago , Illinois . My son-in-law , Mr . PL J . Goodrich , who lives at Chicago , will open your letters and acknowledge the receipt of it to you , and communicate it to me immediately . Surely there are but few Masons who will refuse an appeal like thismade in the

, very homes of King Solomon , Eing Hiram , and Hiram the Artificer—made by a man who has given his lifetime to Freemasonry , and has come so far to get "more light . " Tou paid your dollar when the chances of my coming here seemed very uncertain . Now help me again ; you see I am doing my part with success .

Tours fraternally , ROB . MOEEIS . A Proposition to all Lovers of Bible Knowledge . A great many personsnot Masonslong to have

, , objects from the Holy Land . Such persons may consider the above propositions equally addressed to them . I will also make to them the tollowing additional proposals : —For 1 dol . any one ofthe following specimens : —

A piece of Spina Christi , or " Christ ' s Thorn , " out of which the " crown of thorns " was made that was pressed upon the Saviour ' s brow . This is found abundantly near Jerusalem . One of the pods of the carod ; this is the " husks " which the prodigal son did eat while feeding swine . A shell from the Sea of Galilee .

A shell from the Jordan , near where our Saviour was baptized . A pebble from the Brook Kedron . An object of some kind from Bethany , Nazareth , or Bethlehem , such as a pebble , shell , or flower . . Everything will be numberedlabelledand de

, , - scribed with a printed inscription , so that no mistakes can possibly occur . How many heads of families , Sunday-school teachers , Sunday-school scholars , and Bible readers would feel proud to possess treasures of this kind ! Never before wasths-opportunity offered ; nor will it be

ever again , after the present month . If any minister desires a slip from the cypress tree growing " by the grave of Rev . Pliny Fisk , the first missionary in the Holy Land , who died at Beyrout in 1825 , he can have it , with a copy of my poem written by his grave . The price is also one dollar . Hoping to have a remittance from yourself , and

Correspondence.

a good long list of them from your friends , I close with from the Holy Land . ROB . MOEEIS . Beyrout , Syria , April 13 , 1868 . P . S . —A few copies of this have been sent to subscribers who denoted more than one dollar ; because

having already done their own part so nobly , they are the better qualified to advise their neighbours to " go and do likewise . " Address ROB . MOEEIS , P . 0 . Box 1653 , Chicago , Illinois .

Freemasonry And Chivalry.

FREEMASONRY AND CHIVALRY .

TO THE EDITOR OFTHE FRE 8 MAS 0 NS MAGAZINE AND MASOUIC SAIRKOR . Dear Sir and Brother , —I have to thank Bro . Anthouy Oneal Haye for his courtesy in answering my inquiry as he does at page 469 of the MAGAZINE . It may be considered that few will now care about upholding the idea of any connection between the

Templars or Hospitallers and the Freemasons , or that the Freemasons are descended from the Templars . The only connection that may have existed between the Templars and the Masonic fraternities of the middle ages would be simply that of employer and employed . After the structure was finished for

which the Freemasons may have heen required , they would then go elsewhere , the " serving brethren " or workmen to the Templars being sufficient to keep things in repair or build any common affair . Freemasonry would hardly well live in a Templar encampment or tory . It found itself more at

precep home in the burgh towns , in which places it eventually merged into , or became mixed up with , the Mason corporations . On page 470 Bro . Haye alludes to an ancient lodge

which might have been fouuded by the serving brethren of the Templars at Red Abhey-stead , in the time of David I ., in a way which implies doubts in his mind of their being much in the idea . I do not know of a Freemasons' lodge iu Scotland that , pointing to any existing specimen of ancient ecclesiastical architectureruined or otherwisecan

, , say , with any hope of proving it , " We are the descendants or reprrsentatives of the Masonic fraternity which built that structure , in or about the first half of the twelfth century . " Neither do I know of any existing proof of any sort which shows that a Freemasons' lodge was established in Scotland anywhere

about , or before that date . It may not be out of place here to remark that I have been anxiously waiting for something further from " A Masonic Student , " more especially as I am not yet convinced about the non-existence of the M . M . degree before the eighteenth century , and not as yet

having had time to study it properly , I have been all the more anxious to hear what " A Masonic Student " would say in support of his ideas . I hope to have the pleasure of seeing something from him soon . Tours fraternally , PICTUS .

IF tliou art rich , try to command thy money , lest it should command thee . If thou know how to use it , it is thy servant ; if not , thou art its slave .

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THE KNIGHTS TEMPLARS. Article 14
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 19
HABITS DESIRABLE POR MASONS' SONS. Article 19
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 21
FREEMASONRY AND CHIVALRY. Article 22
MASONIC MUSIC. Article 23
MASONIC MEMS. Article 24
UNITED GRAND LODGE. Article 24
METROPOLITAN. Article 25
PROVINCIAL. Article 26
IRELAND. Article 28
MARK MASONRY. Article 28
RED CROSS OF ROME AND CONSTANTINE AND K.H.S. Article 30
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Poetry. Article 31
A MASONIC COLLOQUY. Article 31
UNVEILING THE BUST OF EDMUND PLOWDEN. Article 31
MASONIC LIFEBOAT FUND. Article 31
METROPOLITAN LODGE MEETINGS, ETC., FOR. THE WEEK ENDING JULY 11TH , 1868. Article 31
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 31
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Correspondence.

ness . Please , remember , however , that my offer only extends for two weeks following the reception of this letter . I allude to this so that no mistakes need be made which would lead to unpleasantness hereafter . I need not say to you that I am very lonely here , -and oftentimes low-spirited . It is a serious matter

for a man fifty years old to come so far and undertake so much . But my health is excellent . 1 have ¦ everything to encourage me , and I know I have your good wishes and prayers . We shall meet again next fall , when I shall have a thousand things to tell you ¦ of this grand mission , which reflects such honour upon those who got it up .

Don't fail to respond to this call at once . Direct your letters to Dr . Rob . Morris , Box 1653 , Chicago , Illinois . My son-in-law , Mr . PL J . Goodrich , who lives at Chicago , will open your letters and acknowledge the receipt of it to you , and communicate it to me immediately . Surely there are but few Masons who will refuse an appeal like thismade in the

, very homes of King Solomon , Eing Hiram , and Hiram the Artificer—made by a man who has given his lifetime to Freemasonry , and has come so far to get "more light . " Tou paid your dollar when the chances of my coming here seemed very uncertain . Now help me again ; you see I am doing my part with success .

Tours fraternally , ROB . MOEEIS . A Proposition to all Lovers of Bible Knowledge . A great many personsnot Masonslong to have

, , objects from the Holy Land . Such persons may consider the above propositions equally addressed to them . I will also make to them the tollowing additional proposals : —For 1 dol . any one ofthe following specimens : —

A piece of Spina Christi , or " Christ ' s Thorn , " out of which the " crown of thorns " was made that was pressed upon the Saviour ' s brow . This is found abundantly near Jerusalem . One of the pods of the carod ; this is the " husks " which the prodigal son did eat while feeding swine . A shell from the Sea of Galilee .

A shell from the Jordan , near where our Saviour was baptized . A pebble from the Brook Kedron . An object of some kind from Bethany , Nazareth , or Bethlehem , such as a pebble , shell , or flower . . Everything will be numberedlabelledand de

, , - scribed with a printed inscription , so that no mistakes can possibly occur . How many heads of families , Sunday-school teachers , Sunday-school scholars , and Bible readers would feel proud to possess treasures of this kind ! Never before wasths-opportunity offered ; nor will it be

ever again , after the present month . If any minister desires a slip from the cypress tree growing " by the grave of Rev . Pliny Fisk , the first missionary in the Holy Land , who died at Beyrout in 1825 , he can have it , with a copy of my poem written by his grave . The price is also one dollar . Hoping to have a remittance from yourself , and

Correspondence.

a good long list of them from your friends , I close with from the Holy Land . ROB . MOEEIS . Beyrout , Syria , April 13 , 1868 . P . S . —A few copies of this have been sent to subscribers who denoted more than one dollar ; because

having already done their own part so nobly , they are the better qualified to advise their neighbours to " go and do likewise . " Address ROB . MOEEIS , P . 0 . Box 1653 , Chicago , Illinois .

Freemasonry And Chivalry.

FREEMASONRY AND CHIVALRY .

TO THE EDITOR OFTHE FRE 8 MAS 0 NS MAGAZINE AND MASOUIC SAIRKOR . Dear Sir and Brother , —I have to thank Bro . Anthouy Oneal Haye for his courtesy in answering my inquiry as he does at page 469 of the MAGAZINE . It may be considered that few will now care about upholding the idea of any connection between the

Templars or Hospitallers and the Freemasons , or that the Freemasons are descended from the Templars . The only connection that may have existed between the Templars and the Masonic fraternities of the middle ages would be simply that of employer and employed . After the structure was finished for

which the Freemasons may have heen required , they would then go elsewhere , the " serving brethren " or workmen to the Templars being sufficient to keep things in repair or build any common affair . Freemasonry would hardly well live in a Templar encampment or tory . It found itself more at

precep home in the burgh towns , in which places it eventually merged into , or became mixed up with , the Mason corporations . On page 470 Bro . Haye alludes to an ancient lodge

which might have been fouuded by the serving brethren of the Templars at Red Abhey-stead , in the time of David I ., in a way which implies doubts in his mind of their being much in the idea . I do not know of a Freemasons' lodge iu Scotland that , pointing to any existing specimen of ancient ecclesiastical architectureruined or otherwisecan

, , say , with any hope of proving it , " We are the descendants or reprrsentatives of the Masonic fraternity which built that structure , in or about the first half of the twelfth century . " Neither do I know of any existing proof of any sort which shows that a Freemasons' lodge was established in Scotland anywhere

about , or before that date . It may not be out of place here to remark that I have been anxiously waiting for something further from " A Masonic Student , " more especially as I am not yet convinced about the non-existence of the M . M . degree before the eighteenth century , and not as yet

having had time to study it properly , I have been all the more anxious to hear what " A Masonic Student " would say in support of his ideas . I hope to have the pleasure of seeing something from him soon . Tours fraternally , PICTUS .

IF tliou art rich , try to command thy money , lest it should command thee . If thou know how to use it , it is thy servant ; if not , thou art its slave .

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