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The Sloane Ms., 3,329., Art. 29.

As the true age of the MS . is now simply a matter of history and archieology , and should only be treated as such , I have written to a person well qualified to express an opinion on the subject , and shall hope next week to send you a further communication on the Art . 293329 MS . Sloane

, I am , dear Sir and Brother , Fraternally yours , A : F . A . WOODFORD , P . G . C . Swillington Kectory , Leeds , August 30 th , 1871 .

The Initiation Fee.

THE INITIATION FEE .

ISO THE EDITOR OP THE FREEMASONS * MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIRROR . Dear Sir and Brother ,- —I have no doubt the letter of "A AVestern AA ' arden , " in your issue of the 26 th inst ., will cause many to exclaim " Can such thiugs really be ? " And yet , perhaps , after all , it need not be much wondered at , seeing tho facility with which , now-a-days , a warrant is obtained for a new lodge . Your correspondent suggests , as a remedy , an increase in the initiation feethinking therebto prevent those joining

, y our Ancient Order who are only led to do so by the indirect ( if not at times direct ) solicitation of friends , or from some mercenary motives alone . But I doubt the efficacy of that remedy for so serious a complaint . It might possibly , for a few months only , postpone the initiation of the needy ; but I believe it would , at the same time , have a tendency to deter those from joining , who were desirous of so doing from honourable motives . The remedI would suggest is this : ' Let the authorities be

y more strict , aye , very , very much more strict , in granting warrants—let them refuse all applications for holding new lodges in public-houses , making it a stipulation ( without any exception ) that for the future no warrant shall be granted for lioldicg a lodgo except at a bond fide private room ; and that from the present time no lodge shall tiereafter lie removed to a public-house , coffee-house , or by whatever similar name the place is known "

Have you , sir , never heard of a publican getting a few brethren together , and , after talking about the matter , in goes a petition for a lodge to be held at his , house , the authorities seeming only too willing to grant the application ? Or of a brother who , for the sake , perhaps , of the profits on the paraphernalia , has gone and done ditto ? Or of two or three very ambitious ( and sometimes very young ) brethren , not getting on so fast in rank as they are desirous , doing ditto ? Well , sir , what is the consequence of

this ? These brethren have spent a certain amount of money , aud have incurred certain liabilities , which have to be met . Therefore , the natural consequence is , they must have candidates to assist them ; and if they cannot obtain quality , of course they must have the reverse . On reading the accounts of lodge meetings inserted in a certain London weekly , one might almost imagine that Masonic lodges were included in the inventory of public-houses . I

would allow no brethren a warrant till they had proved they had a filling house for it . AA'heu I have met in lodges I have several times been , shall I say disgusted , to find the lodge called from labour to refreshment for ten minutes or so , after , perhaps , sitting an hour , and doing half the work . And for what was the business adjourned ? Simply to have—a smoke and a glass . Yes , actually our solemn ceremony stayed for "gin and tobacco" —from the sublime to the contemptible . The very

holding of a lodge at a public-house has , I consider , a tendency to bring in candidates who will not reflect the greatest credit on our Order . I dare sayplenty havo heard the jokes and scoffing remarks of a bar company when a candidate has been sitting there waiting his turn to be " made a Mason . " And so long as Masonic lodges continue to bo permitted to hold their meetings at public-houses , and so long as warrants continue to bo so easily obtainedso long may we expect to hear of similar

trans-, actions to those so forcibly described by "A Western Warden . " I remain , Yours fraternally , COBlNxniAir . Islington , August 28 th . 1871 .

Masonic Sayings And Doings Abroad.

MASONIC SAYINGS AND DOINGS ABROAD .

The Grand Lodge of Indiana recently held its session , and the press congratulate the brethren upou the *¦ quick work , " the session having occupied two days . What must our America brethren think when they read that the business of the Quarterly Communication of the Grand Lodge of England is transacted in about as many hours .

M . E . Comp . Harrington , of the Grand Chapter of Canada , says : I submit also a most serious matter for the due consideration of the Grand Chapter , in our proposed authorised Eitual . The committee have attended very carefully and anxiously - , a report

is prepared , the vcork is in readiness for exemplification , and the result will be submitted to your wisdom and for your determination . And while on this topic , I have to suggest to Grand Chapter to consider the necessity and propriety of working the degrees of Eoyal and Select Masters , as practised in

the "United States of America , and known as Cryptic Masonry . These degrees would seem to be proper appendages to Grand Chapter and Eoyal Arch Masonry , and are interesting , if not necessary . He also proposes that the Grand Chapter should at once assume the government , and grant warrants for sub ordinate Councils , as a nucleus for the Grand Council .

The new Masonic Temple at Kew Orleans , to be erected on St . Charles Street , opposite Tivoli Circus it is claimed will , when finished , be equal in style and beauty to any edifice in the country . The plans have been prepared by Mr . S . B . Haggert , architect

of that city : The building is to have a frontage of one hundred and fifty feet , by eighty in depth . It i « to be three stories high , the front to he built of Missouri stone , of yelloiv colour , the balance of brick . The estimated cost of the superstructure is 250 , 000 dollars .

The General Grand Eoyal Arch Chapter of the United States of America ivill be held in the city of Baltimore , Maryland , on the 19 fch inst . A someAvhat remarkable lodge gathering was held in Birmingham , Conn ., July 1 st . The lodge was

held for the purpose of giving the aged brethren of that and the adjoining toAvns an opportunity to witness the work . Some thirty of the old brethren assembled , many of whom had passed their eightieth year , and had not Avitnessed Avork in a lodge for twenty or thirty years . These venerable Masons must have presented a noble appearance .

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MASONIC JOTTINGS, No. 84. Article 3
ANTIQUITY OF THE CRAFT. Article 4
TIME. Article 7
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 8
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 10
THE SLOANE MS., 3,329., ART. 29. Article 10
THE INITIATION FEE. Article 11
MASONIC SAYINGS AND DOINGS ABROAD. Article 11
MASONIC MEMS. Article 12
Craft Masonry. Article 12
PROVINCIAL. Article 13
MARK MASONRY. Article 13
KNIGHTS TEMPLAR. Article 15
CRYPTIC MASONRY. Article 15
"PASSION PLAYS" AT OBER-AMMAGAN. Article 15
Obituary. Article 16
REVIEWS. Article 17
NOTES ON MUSIC AND THE DRAMA. Article 18
SUMMARY OF MASONIC LAW. Article 18
Poetry. Article 20
LIST OF LODGE MEETINGS &c., FOR WEEK ENDING SEPTEMBER 8TH, 1871. Article 20
METROPOLITAN LODGES AND CHAPTERS OF INSTRUCTION. Article 20
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 20
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The Sloane Ms., 3,329., Art. 29.

As the true age of the MS . is now simply a matter of history and archieology , and should only be treated as such , I have written to a person well qualified to express an opinion on the subject , and shall hope next week to send you a further communication on the Art . 293329 MS . Sloane

, I am , dear Sir and Brother , Fraternally yours , A : F . A . WOODFORD , P . G . C . Swillington Kectory , Leeds , August 30 th , 1871 .

The Initiation Fee.

THE INITIATION FEE .

ISO THE EDITOR OP THE FREEMASONS * MAGAZINE AND MASONIC MIRROR . Dear Sir and Brother ,- —I have no doubt the letter of "A AVestern AA ' arden , " in your issue of the 26 th inst ., will cause many to exclaim " Can such thiugs really be ? " And yet , perhaps , after all , it need not be much wondered at , seeing tho facility with which , now-a-days , a warrant is obtained for a new lodge . Your correspondent suggests , as a remedy , an increase in the initiation feethinking therebto prevent those joining

, y our Ancient Order who are only led to do so by the indirect ( if not at times direct ) solicitation of friends , or from some mercenary motives alone . But I doubt the efficacy of that remedy for so serious a complaint . It might possibly , for a few months only , postpone the initiation of the needy ; but I believe it would , at the same time , have a tendency to deter those from joining , who were desirous of so doing from honourable motives . The remedI would suggest is this : ' Let the authorities be

y more strict , aye , very , very much more strict , in granting warrants—let them refuse all applications for holding new lodges in public-houses , making it a stipulation ( without any exception ) that for the future no warrant shall be granted for lioldicg a lodgo except at a bond fide private room ; and that from the present time no lodge shall tiereafter lie removed to a public-house , coffee-house , or by whatever similar name the place is known "

Have you , sir , never heard of a publican getting a few brethren together , and , after talking about the matter , in goes a petition for a lodge to be held at his , house , the authorities seeming only too willing to grant the application ? Or of a brother who , for the sake , perhaps , of the profits on the paraphernalia , has gone and done ditto ? Or of two or three very ambitious ( and sometimes very young ) brethren , not getting on so fast in rank as they are desirous , doing ditto ? Well , sir , what is the consequence of

this ? These brethren have spent a certain amount of money , aud have incurred certain liabilities , which have to be met . Therefore , the natural consequence is , they must have candidates to assist them ; and if they cannot obtain quality , of course they must have the reverse . On reading the accounts of lodge meetings inserted in a certain London weekly , one might almost imagine that Masonic lodges were included in the inventory of public-houses . I

would allow no brethren a warrant till they had proved they had a filling house for it . AA'heu I have met in lodges I have several times been , shall I say disgusted , to find the lodge called from labour to refreshment for ten minutes or so , after , perhaps , sitting an hour , and doing half the work . And for what was the business adjourned ? Simply to have—a smoke and a glass . Yes , actually our solemn ceremony stayed for "gin and tobacco" —from the sublime to the contemptible . The very

holding of a lodge at a public-house has , I consider , a tendency to bring in candidates who will not reflect the greatest credit on our Order . I dare sayplenty havo heard the jokes and scoffing remarks of a bar company when a candidate has been sitting there waiting his turn to be " made a Mason . " And so long as Masonic lodges continue to bo permitted to hold their meetings at public-houses , and so long as warrants continue to bo so easily obtainedso long may we expect to hear of similar

trans-, actions to those so forcibly described by "A Western Warden . " I remain , Yours fraternally , COBlNxniAir . Islington , August 28 th . 1871 .

Masonic Sayings And Doings Abroad.

MASONIC SAYINGS AND DOINGS ABROAD .

The Grand Lodge of Indiana recently held its session , and the press congratulate the brethren upou the *¦ quick work , " the session having occupied two days . What must our America brethren think when they read that the business of the Quarterly Communication of the Grand Lodge of England is transacted in about as many hours .

M . E . Comp . Harrington , of the Grand Chapter of Canada , says : I submit also a most serious matter for the due consideration of the Grand Chapter , in our proposed authorised Eitual . The committee have attended very carefully and anxiously - , a report

is prepared , the vcork is in readiness for exemplification , and the result will be submitted to your wisdom and for your determination . And while on this topic , I have to suggest to Grand Chapter to consider the necessity and propriety of working the degrees of Eoyal and Select Masters , as practised in

the "United States of America , and known as Cryptic Masonry . These degrees would seem to be proper appendages to Grand Chapter and Eoyal Arch Masonry , and are interesting , if not necessary . He also proposes that the Grand Chapter should at once assume the government , and grant warrants for sub ordinate Councils , as a nucleus for the Grand Council .

The new Masonic Temple at Kew Orleans , to be erected on St . Charles Street , opposite Tivoli Circus it is claimed will , when finished , be equal in style and beauty to any edifice in the country . The plans have been prepared by Mr . S . B . Haggert , architect

of that city : The building is to have a frontage of one hundred and fifty feet , by eighty in depth . It i « to be three stories high , the front to he built of Missouri stone , of yelloiv colour , the balance of brick . The estimated cost of the superstructure is 250 , 000 dollars .

The General Grand Eoyal Arch Chapter of the United States of America ivill be held in the city of Baltimore , Maryland , on the 19 fch inst . A someAvhat remarkable lodge gathering was held in Birmingham , Conn ., July 1 st . The lodge was

held for the purpose of giving the aged brethren of that and the adjoining toAvns an opportunity to witness the work . Some thirty of the old brethren assembled , many of whom had passed their eightieth year , and had not Avitnessed Avork in a lodge for twenty or thirty years . These venerable Masons must have presented a noble appearance .

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