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Correspondence.

CORRESPONDENCE .

The Editor is not responsible for the opinions expressed by Correspondents , CANADIAiY HIGH DEGREES . TO THE EDITOR OF T . K FUEEKA . SOXS' 1 _ A . GA . ZIXE . O'l . iliSOXIC ItlnUOU . Dear Sir aud Brother , —It was with uo little

surprise that I perceived iu the October number of the EEEEMASON ' S MAGAZINE , NO . 841 , a letter signed by "An American Ereemason , " impugning my knowledge of historic truth , and referring to the " ignorance " evinced in the address delivered by me before the Prov : G . Conclave of Kni ghts Templar for

Canada ( which appeared in the pages of your journal Sept . 26 ) , also calling into question my authority for establishing the A . and A . Rite 33 ° in the Dominion . " The tone and stylo of your correspondent is so objectionable and so utterly at variance with that fraternal feeling which should exist amongst

members of our order , even though they may disagree on many points , and so different from the genuine kindness J have invariably met with amongst the Masonic Society in the United States of America , that I would not deem it worthy of notice did I not , in justice to myselffeel called upon to repudiate so

, erroneous a construction as "An American Ereemason " has put upon my remarks . Had " An American Ereemason " been conversant with the history of the Order of the Temple and Hospital in Great Britain before he so positively condemned my assertions , he

would have known that the Masonic Orders of the Temple and Hospital in England , Wales , and Dependencies of the British Crown are united , and , although the ceremonies of a reception are distinet and separate , the two orders are conferred under the same warrant or patent of authority . In the early

history of the Templars and Kni ghts of St . John a jealous feeling of each other ' s power and authority existed ancl created discord and rivalry , which prevented that union , so desirable in the Crusades , to carry out the object for which both orders were maini y instituted ; but history also tells us that

, from the time of the persecution of the Templars , that Order in Scotland became merged in the Hospitallers of St . John , and in that country King James IV . confirmed all former grants— " Sanclo flospitali de Jerusalem , et fratribus ejusdem militia Templi Salonwnis , " as recorded iu the Register of the

Great Seal of Scotland , a satisfactory proof that the Order was retained conjointly with that of the Hospital . The last Grand Preceptor of the Order of St . John in Scotland , at the period of the Reformation , surrendered to the Crown the whole possessions of the combined Templars and Hospitallers , being declared forfeited to the state .

It is not my intention to enter into any discussion with "An American Ereemason" on the subject of his letter , - but it may gratify him to know that there is no likelihood of the brethren in Canada ( in whose behalf he expresses so much anxiety ) being imposed uponas my authority for establishing the A & A

, . . Rite in the Dominion emanates from the "Supreme Grand Council of the Rite in England and Wales , & c , of which I am a member and their representative . The authority I hold , as Grand Prior of the Order of the Temple is from the Supreme Grand

Master of the Order of the Knig hts Templars , & c , in England , the two orders having no connexion whatever ; but , previous to the A . & A . Rite being revived in England in IS to ( and , indeed , until a few years later ) , the degrees of Rosa Croix and Kadosh were always conferred under Templar warrantsand had

, been for many years ; this my own diploma ancl several old by-laws of the " Observance , " " Cross of Christ , " and other encampments of London ( England ) in my possession clearly show . Tour correspondent is so far right , that my remark about the necessity of a Mason travelling on the continent of Europe being

in possession of the Rose > J < degree referred to Erance , where I do know ( or , at least did , some years ago ) , this degree is looked upon as tho " Ne plus ultra " of Ereemasonry . In taking leave of this subject , let me endeavour to impress upon " An American Ereemason" the

necessity of being fully conversant with the subject he purposes writing about , and endeavour to couch his remarks in a more courteous tone , and with less assumption of ouperior knowledge , instead of striving to create discord by an unfair review of the opinions of others , to whom lie may take exception .

Tours fraternally , W . J . B . M'LEOD MOORE , 33 ° , Grand Prior of the Order of the Temple , & c , and Representative S . G . C . of A . & A . Rite for England and "Wales iu the Dominion of Canada . 2 Sth November , 1 S 6 S .

TO TUB EDITOR OF THE FREE :. ASOHS' HAGAZISE A > 'D MASONIC HIKltOB . Dear Sir and Brother , — -Since writing to you on the 28 th ult ., relative to the remarks of " An American Ereemason " on my address to the Knights Templars of Canada , I find , on comparing the orig inal address with your copy , that you omitted to publish the

following paragraph : — "I last year stated that it was probable the A . & A . Rite would he introduced into Canada by me . Since then I have been in communication with the Supreme Grand Council , 33 ° , for England and Wales , who claim jurisdiction over all dependencies of the British

Crown , and having been honoured by being elected an active member of the Supreme Grand Council , and appointed their representative for Canada , I have acted upon my authority , & c . ' ' This " omission" no doubt led " An American Ereemason " to suppose I had introduced the Rite

on the authority merely of my being head of the Templar Order in Canada , and its being introduced in an address to Templars . The announcement was made to them as it was by Knights Templar solely . I had been requested to introduce the rite into Canada some years ago , when I obtained the 33 ° in

the Hnited States . The insertion of this letter will oblige . Tours fraternally , W . J . B . M'LEOD MOORE , S . G . C . 33 ° , A . & A . Rite , and Grand Prior Knight Templar & cfor Canada .

, , Dominion of Canada , December 7 th , 1 S 6 S . [ We feel much indebted to Colonel M'Leod Moore for the above communications , which put the question in its proper light . The communication of " An

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ADDRESS TO OUR READERS. Article 3
INDEX. Article 5
MASONIC PERSECUTION.—I. Article 9
GRAND LODGE OF IOWA.—I. Article 10
MASONIC DISCIPLINE.—V. Article 11
THE KNIGHTS TEMPLARS. Article 13
CHAPTER XII. Article 14
CHIPS OF FOREIGN ASHLER. Article 16
MASONIC NOTES AND QUERIES. Article 17
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 19
ANTIQUITY OF CHRISTMAS GAMES. Article 20
MASONIC MEMS. Article 21
METROPOLITAN. Article 21
PROVINCIAL. Article 22
SCOTLAND. Article 24
CHANNEL ISLANDS. Article 25
MARK MASONRY. Article 25
KNIGHTS TEMPLAR. Article 25
RED CROSS OF ROME AND CONSTANTINE. Article 25
MASONIC LIFEBOAT FUND. Article 25
MASONIC FESTIVITIES. Article 26
REVIEWS. Article 27
FUNERAL OF THE LATE BRO. JAMES CHALMERS WITH MASONIC HONOURS. Article 27
Obituary. Article 28
METROPOLITAN LODGE MEETINGS, ETC., FOR THE WEEK ENDING JANUARY 9TH, 1869. Article 28
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 28
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Correspondence.

CORRESPONDENCE .

The Editor is not responsible for the opinions expressed by Correspondents , CANADIAiY HIGH DEGREES . TO THE EDITOR OF T . K FUEEKA . SOXS' 1 _ A . GA . ZIXE . O'l . iliSOXIC ItlnUOU . Dear Sir aud Brother , —It was with uo little

surprise that I perceived iu the October number of the EEEEMASON ' S MAGAZINE , NO . 841 , a letter signed by "An American Ereemason , " impugning my knowledge of historic truth , and referring to the " ignorance " evinced in the address delivered by me before the Prov : G . Conclave of Kni ghts Templar for

Canada ( which appeared in the pages of your journal Sept . 26 ) , also calling into question my authority for establishing the A . and A . Rite 33 ° in the Dominion . " The tone and stylo of your correspondent is so objectionable and so utterly at variance with that fraternal feeling which should exist amongst

members of our order , even though they may disagree on many points , and so different from the genuine kindness J have invariably met with amongst the Masonic Society in the United States of America , that I would not deem it worthy of notice did I not , in justice to myselffeel called upon to repudiate so

, erroneous a construction as "An American Ereemason " has put upon my remarks . Had " An American Ereemason " been conversant with the history of the Order of the Temple and Hospital in Great Britain before he so positively condemned my assertions , he

would have known that the Masonic Orders of the Temple and Hospital in England , Wales , and Dependencies of the British Crown are united , and , although the ceremonies of a reception are distinet and separate , the two orders are conferred under the same warrant or patent of authority . In the early

history of the Templars and Kni ghts of St . John a jealous feeling of each other ' s power and authority existed ancl created discord and rivalry , which prevented that union , so desirable in the Crusades , to carry out the object for which both orders were maini y instituted ; but history also tells us that

, from the time of the persecution of the Templars , that Order in Scotland became merged in the Hospitallers of St . John , and in that country King James IV . confirmed all former grants— " Sanclo flospitali de Jerusalem , et fratribus ejusdem militia Templi Salonwnis , " as recorded iu the Register of the

Great Seal of Scotland , a satisfactory proof that the Order was retained conjointly with that of the Hospital . The last Grand Preceptor of the Order of St . John in Scotland , at the period of the Reformation , surrendered to the Crown the whole possessions of the combined Templars and Hospitallers , being declared forfeited to the state .

It is not my intention to enter into any discussion with "An American Ereemason" on the subject of his letter , - but it may gratify him to know that there is no likelihood of the brethren in Canada ( in whose behalf he expresses so much anxiety ) being imposed uponas my authority for establishing the A & A

, . . Rite in the Dominion emanates from the "Supreme Grand Council of the Rite in England and Wales , & c , of which I am a member and their representative . The authority I hold , as Grand Prior of the Order of the Temple is from the Supreme Grand

Master of the Order of the Knig hts Templars , & c , in England , the two orders having no connexion whatever ; but , previous to the A . & A . Rite being revived in England in IS to ( and , indeed , until a few years later ) , the degrees of Rosa Croix and Kadosh were always conferred under Templar warrantsand had

, been for many years ; this my own diploma ancl several old by-laws of the " Observance , " " Cross of Christ , " and other encampments of London ( England ) in my possession clearly show . Tour correspondent is so far right , that my remark about the necessity of a Mason travelling on the continent of Europe being

in possession of the Rose > J < degree referred to Erance , where I do know ( or , at least did , some years ago ) , this degree is looked upon as tho " Ne plus ultra " of Ereemasonry . In taking leave of this subject , let me endeavour to impress upon " An American Ereemason" the

necessity of being fully conversant with the subject he purposes writing about , and endeavour to couch his remarks in a more courteous tone , and with less assumption of ouperior knowledge , instead of striving to create discord by an unfair review of the opinions of others , to whom lie may take exception .

Tours fraternally , W . J . B . M'LEOD MOORE , 33 ° , Grand Prior of the Order of the Temple , & c , and Representative S . G . C . of A . & A . Rite for England and "Wales iu the Dominion of Canada . 2 Sth November , 1 S 6 S .

TO TUB EDITOR OF THE FREE :. ASOHS' HAGAZISE A > 'D MASONIC HIKltOB . Dear Sir and Brother , — -Since writing to you on the 28 th ult ., relative to the remarks of " An American Ereemason " on my address to the Knights Templars of Canada , I find , on comparing the orig inal address with your copy , that you omitted to publish the

following paragraph : — "I last year stated that it was probable the A . & A . Rite would he introduced into Canada by me . Since then I have been in communication with the Supreme Grand Council , 33 ° , for England and Wales , who claim jurisdiction over all dependencies of the British

Crown , and having been honoured by being elected an active member of the Supreme Grand Council , and appointed their representative for Canada , I have acted upon my authority , & c . ' ' This " omission" no doubt led " An American Ereemason " to suppose I had introduced the Rite

on the authority merely of my being head of the Templar Order in Canada , and its being introduced in an address to Templars . The announcement was made to them as it was by Knights Templar solely . I had been requested to introduce the rite into Canada some years ago , when I obtained the 33 ° in

the Hnited States . The insertion of this letter will oblige . Tours fraternally , W . J . B . M'LEOD MOORE , S . G . C . 33 ° , A . & A . Rite , and Grand Prior Knight Templar & cfor Canada .

, , Dominion of Canada , December 7 th , 1 S 6 S . [ We feel much indebted to Colonel M'Leod Moore for the above communications , which put the question in its proper light . The communication of " An

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