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The Masonic Mirror.

question ! ' ) Whether right or wrong , I say that there is an inherent right in every representative assembly , and we claim it because Grand Lodge should be inherently supreme . and we demand the acknowledgment of that supremacy as our safeguard against intrigue , and our guarantee for the preservation of our liberties and our " ( the remainder of the sentence was drowned in applause and cries of " Order , order . " )

Bro . H . G , "Warren : " We have nothing before us but the motion of our worthy Bro . Col . Burlton , on which I shall move an amendment , and I shall do so in a few words . I disagree with the noble lord in his application of the practice of the House of Commons to the practice of Grand Lodge ; and I know something of the House of Commons from my experience in the gallery . I feel strongly on this subject ; as we have already decided the question which is now before us , I think it is only a waste of time to go over the ground again , and I shall therefore now move that this Grand Lodge be closed . " ( Loud cheers , laughter , and cries of " Gh , oh ! " from the dais . )

Bro . Binckes seconded the motion amidst loud cheers and uproarious demonstrations of angry feeling , on the dais . The Grand Master : i ( I must appeal to the Grand Lodge to support me . ( Applause . ) I do trust the Grand Lodge is not becoming a mere debating club . I do hope that resolutions will not be brought forward which have neither sense nor meaning ; such as the proposition that the Grand Lodge be now closed . ( Hear , hear . ) Why the fact is , the Grand Lodge cannot be closed except by the Grand Master . I am sorry to have heard the observations which have fallen from my noble friend and Brother who has just addressed Grand Lodge respecting his

not finding favour with the Grand Master . I can assure my noble friend and Brother , that there is no member of Grand Lodge for whom I entertain a higher respect . ( Cheers . ) I have known him from his infancy , and I have been intimate with his family all my life , and not one word would I say to him which would give him offence . But I must administer the law , according to the oath I have taken , to the best of my judgment and ability , and I regret that such remarks should have fallen from the noble lord . I was for twenty-five years a member of the House of Commons , and therefore I can neither bow to the opinion of the noble lord nor to that of the worthy gentleman who says he has occupied a place in the gallery . " ( Laughter . )

Bro . the Earl of Carnavon said : " Most Worshipful Sir , I beg to disclaim on my part all intentional discourtesy . You have said that you have a duty to perform to the hest of your ability ; and believe me that I should not have expressed the views to which I have given utterance upon the present occasion , had I not felt that if I did not express my opinion I should be a traitor to the cause I have at heart . " Bro . Burton Cooper wished to bring the unhappy discussions to a close , he said ; but his observations were received with cries of " Question" and a variety of

demonstrations of impatience . " The Brethren , " he said , " must have heard with , delight and satisfaction the interchange of friendly sentiments between the Grand Master and the Earl of Carnavon . ( Hear , hear . ) I have no intention to take up your time , but you will allow me , perhaps , to say that I also have very strong opinions on this question of | the power of adjournment , and" Bro . 'Portal : " I rise to order . " ( Rear , hear , and laughter . ) Bro . Purton Cooper : " My opinion on the subject is" ( Order , order . )

Bro . Bagshaw : " There are many Brethren with strong opinions who feel deeply on this subject , and would like to have it decided by Grand Lodge . " A Brother whose name we could not learn , but who was said to be a Prov . ( I rand Oliiccr for Hampshire , said he wished to make a few observations ; and as he considered that the ( hand Master had decided quite right , he could not be regarded as rising with any vexatious motive . He thought it would be impossible for the Grand Lodge to proceed with the resolution which wa « before it till the point as to the power of adjournment was decided .

The Brother was about to give his reasons for so thinking , when he was called to order by the Grand Master , who begged the Brethren to proceed to the business of the evening . The Brother said it was very desirable that Grand Lodge should

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THE MASONIC MIRROR. Article 16
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The Masonic Mirror.

question ! ' ) Whether right or wrong , I say that there is an inherent right in every representative assembly , and we claim it because Grand Lodge should be inherently supreme . and we demand the acknowledgment of that supremacy as our safeguard against intrigue , and our guarantee for the preservation of our liberties and our " ( the remainder of the sentence was drowned in applause and cries of " Order , order . " )

Bro . H . G , "Warren : " We have nothing before us but the motion of our worthy Bro . Col . Burlton , on which I shall move an amendment , and I shall do so in a few words . I disagree with the noble lord in his application of the practice of the House of Commons to the practice of Grand Lodge ; and I know something of the House of Commons from my experience in the gallery . I feel strongly on this subject ; as we have already decided the question which is now before us , I think it is only a waste of time to go over the ground again , and I shall therefore now move that this Grand Lodge be closed . " ( Loud cheers , laughter , and cries of " Gh , oh ! " from the dais . )

Bro . Binckes seconded the motion amidst loud cheers and uproarious demonstrations of angry feeling , on the dais . The Grand Master : i ( I must appeal to the Grand Lodge to support me . ( Applause . ) I do trust the Grand Lodge is not becoming a mere debating club . I do hope that resolutions will not be brought forward which have neither sense nor meaning ; such as the proposition that the Grand Lodge be now closed . ( Hear , hear . ) Why the fact is , the Grand Lodge cannot be closed except by the Grand Master . I am sorry to have heard the observations which have fallen from my noble friend and Brother who has just addressed Grand Lodge respecting his

not finding favour with the Grand Master . I can assure my noble friend and Brother , that there is no member of Grand Lodge for whom I entertain a higher respect . ( Cheers . ) I have known him from his infancy , and I have been intimate with his family all my life , and not one word would I say to him which would give him offence . But I must administer the law , according to the oath I have taken , to the best of my judgment and ability , and I regret that such remarks should have fallen from the noble lord . I was for twenty-five years a member of the House of Commons , and therefore I can neither bow to the opinion of the noble lord nor to that of the worthy gentleman who says he has occupied a place in the gallery . " ( Laughter . )

Bro . the Earl of Carnavon said : " Most Worshipful Sir , I beg to disclaim on my part all intentional discourtesy . You have said that you have a duty to perform to the hest of your ability ; and believe me that I should not have expressed the views to which I have given utterance upon the present occasion , had I not felt that if I did not express my opinion I should be a traitor to the cause I have at heart . " Bro . Burton Cooper wished to bring the unhappy discussions to a close , he said ; but his observations were received with cries of " Question" and a variety of

demonstrations of impatience . " The Brethren , " he said , " must have heard with , delight and satisfaction the interchange of friendly sentiments between the Grand Master and the Earl of Carnavon . ( Hear , hear . ) I have no intention to take up your time , but you will allow me , perhaps , to say that I also have very strong opinions on this question of | the power of adjournment , and" Bro . 'Portal : " I rise to order . " ( Rear , hear , and laughter . ) Bro . Purton Cooper : " My opinion on the subject is" ( Order , order . )

Bro . Bagshaw : " There are many Brethren with strong opinions who feel deeply on this subject , and would like to have it decided by Grand Lodge . " A Brother whose name we could not learn , but who was said to be a Prov . ( I rand Oliiccr for Hampshire , said he wished to make a few observations ; and as he considered that the ( hand Master had decided quite right , he could not be regarded as rising with any vexatious motive . He thought it would be impossible for the Grand Lodge to proceed with the resolution which wa « before it till the point as to the power of adjournment was decided .

The Brother was about to give his reasons for so thinking , when he was called to order by the Grand Master , who begged the Brethren to proceed to the business of the evening . The Brother said it was very desirable that Grand Lodge should

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