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The Masonic Mirror.

other to these two Schools : and I do not see how they can be alienated . I have supported the Charity whose cause Bro . Warren has advocated , and I am sorry to say that that Charity is not well supported ; but I do trust that the times are mending , and that it will flourish as well as the other two . The comparatively small success of the charity I can only attribute to the fact , that the Brethren are not fully aware of the claims which it has upon their sympathy . I oppose the motion of my Bro . Warren , because I think it is inimical to the interests of the Charity which I have alluded to , and I do not think it will be beneficial to the third Charity .

A Brother , whose name we did not catch , supported the motion , on the ground that any measure of an unquestionable character ought to be sanctioned by Grand Lodge , when known to be conducive to the welfare of any of their charities . The question was then put and carried . STKANGEKS AT THE BANQUETS . Bro . H . G . Warren moved , "That no person other than a member of the Craft be permitted to dine with the Brethren at any Masonic festival . " He said that his

object was to prevent gentlemen of the Musical Profession , not being members of the Order , from dining with the Brethren , as they were liable , under such circumstances , to be mistaken for members of the Craft , and therefore , the Brethren not being on their guard , they might illegitimately become possessed of some of the Secrets of the Order . ( Hear , hear . ) Bro . Binckes seconded the motion , and asked the Grand Master to decide whether it would exclude the ladies ?

Bro . Warren : Ladies are not in the habit of dining at our festivals . Bro . Smith , G . P ., thought , that if it excluded the ladies , it was decidedly objectionable . Bro . Colonel Burlton said , that while Prov . Grand Master of Bengal , he had sat down at a Masonic festival with the Bishop of Calcutta and a number of distinguished gentlemen , including the bishop ' s chaplain , who were not Masons ; but they dined with them , and preached to them , and participated in their banquets . In fact , he did not see that there was anything which constituted a necessary portion of their banquets to which strangers could not be admitted .

Bro . Warren : " Bro . Burlton , whatever his experience may be in India , appears to know nothing of the state of things which exists in England . " Bro . Burlton : " I beg your pardon , Bro . Warren . " ( Laughter . ) Bro . Warren : '' It has been laid down as a principle , that none but Masons should be present at our banquets , and , therefore , I maintain that by introducing" singers , or any one else , in fact , who is not a Mason , we violate the principle which the Grand Master has laid down . If we may have singers , why may we not have other persons ? There are many of us who could bring gentlemen

who would be ready enough to put down their one guinea , or even their ten guineas for our charities , who are , nevertheless , not members of our Order . Let us have it either one way or the other . Let us either confine ourselves to Brethren of . the Order , or admit , indiscriminately , those whom the Brethren may think proper to invite . On one occasion , Bro . Baldwin , J . G . W ., the proprietor of the Morninr / Herald sent a gentleman attached to the parliamentary corps of

that journal , in order to report the proceedings . That gentleman was not a Mason , and he was very properly , as I think , refused admission . " ( Loud cries of lc Hear ! " ) " But as I did the business for him , the Charity sustained no loss . " ( Cries of " Hear ! " and laughter . )

A short discussion ensued , in which a Brother suggested , that as the strangers were not in Masonic clothing , that ought to be sufficient to put the Brethren on their guard . Some of the Brethren , however , contended , that it was not sufficient , and that no gentleman who was not a Mason should be admitted on such occasions , because there was a great probability that , in the freedom of conversation which was carried on amongst the Brethren , such strangers might become illegitimately possessed of the secrets of their Order ; and that , with reference to the ladies , the same objection could not be urged , because they were placed in the

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MASONIC PHILOSOPHY. Article 1
« THINGS NOT GENERALLY KNOWN."* Article 6
LINES TO A NEWLY-INITIATED BROTHER. Article 11
PENCILLINGS EROM THE SKETCH-BOOK OE A MADRAS OFFICER. Article 12
REVIEWS OF NEW BOOKS. Article 20
ANNIVERSARY OF A LODGE. Article 22
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 23
THE MASONIC MIRROR. Article 36
METE0P0LITAN. Article 50
PROVINCIAL. Article 54
ROYAL ARCH. Article 72
THE ANCIENT AND ACCEPTED KITE. Article 74
KNIGHTS TEMPLAR. Article 74
MAKE MASONRY. Article 75
SCOTLAND. Article 75
COLONIAL. Article 77
INDIA. Article 79
AMERICA. Article 80
SUMMARY OF NEWS FOR OCTOBER. Article 82
OBITUARY. Article 83
NOTICE. Article 84
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The Masonic Mirror.

other to these two Schools : and I do not see how they can be alienated . I have supported the Charity whose cause Bro . Warren has advocated , and I am sorry to say that that Charity is not well supported ; but I do trust that the times are mending , and that it will flourish as well as the other two . The comparatively small success of the charity I can only attribute to the fact , that the Brethren are not fully aware of the claims which it has upon their sympathy . I oppose the motion of my Bro . Warren , because I think it is inimical to the interests of the Charity which I have alluded to , and I do not think it will be beneficial to the third Charity .

A Brother , whose name we did not catch , supported the motion , on the ground that any measure of an unquestionable character ought to be sanctioned by Grand Lodge , when known to be conducive to the welfare of any of their charities . The question was then put and carried . STKANGEKS AT THE BANQUETS . Bro . H . G . Warren moved , "That no person other than a member of the Craft be permitted to dine with the Brethren at any Masonic festival . " He said that his

object was to prevent gentlemen of the Musical Profession , not being members of the Order , from dining with the Brethren , as they were liable , under such circumstances , to be mistaken for members of the Craft , and therefore , the Brethren not being on their guard , they might illegitimately become possessed of some of the Secrets of the Order . ( Hear , hear . ) Bro . Binckes seconded the motion , and asked the Grand Master to decide whether it would exclude the ladies ?

Bro . Warren : Ladies are not in the habit of dining at our festivals . Bro . Smith , G . P ., thought , that if it excluded the ladies , it was decidedly objectionable . Bro . Colonel Burlton said , that while Prov . Grand Master of Bengal , he had sat down at a Masonic festival with the Bishop of Calcutta and a number of distinguished gentlemen , including the bishop ' s chaplain , who were not Masons ; but they dined with them , and preached to them , and participated in their banquets . In fact , he did not see that there was anything which constituted a necessary portion of their banquets to which strangers could not be admitted .

Bro . Warren : " Bro . Burlton , whatever his experience may be in India , appears to know nothing of the state of things which exists in England . " Bro . Burlton : " I beg your pardon , Bro . Warren . " ( Laughter . ) Bro . Warren : '' It has been laid down as a principle , that none but Masons should be present at our banquets , and , therefore , I maintain that by introducing" singers , or any one else , in fact , who is not a Mason , we violate the principle which the Grand Master has laid down . If we may have singers , why may we not have other persons ? There are many of us who could bring gentlemen

who would be ready enough to put down their one guinea , or even their ten guineas for our charities , who are , nevertheless , not members of our Order . Let us have it either one way or the other . Let us either confine ourselves to Brethren of . the Order , or admit , indiscriminately , those whom the Brethren may think proper to invite . On one occasion , Bro . Baldwin , J . G . W ., the proprietor of the Morninr / Herald sent a gentleman attached to the parliamentary corps of

that journal , in order to report the proceedings . That gentleman was not a Mason , and he was very properly , as I think , refused admission . " ( Loud cries of lc Hear ! " ) " But as I did the business for him , the Charity sustained no loss . " ( Cries of " Hear ! " and laughter . )

A short discussion ensued , in which a Brother suggested , that as the strangers were not in Masonic clothing , that ought to be sufficient to put the Brethren on their guard . Some of the Brethren , however , contended , that it was not sufficient , and that no gentleman who was not a Mason should be admitted on such occasions , because there was a great probability that , in the freedom of conversation which was carried on amongst the Brethren , such strangers might become illegitimately possessed of the secrets of their Order ; and that , with reference to the ladies , the same objection could not be urged , because they were placed in the

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