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The Masonic Mirror.

The R . W . the Grand Master ( angrily ) : " I am ruling here , and I don't want advice from * anybody ! " ( Oh ] oh ! and loud expressions of indignant disapprobation . ) The Bev . Bro . G . B . Portal moved that the Lodge do now adjourn . This led to a scene of indescribable excitement and confusion , in the midst of which there were loud cries of " Motion ! " " Motion ! " from all parts of the room .

The Grand Master declared he would not put such a motion ; and said , " Those of you who wish it , will be permitted to retire , and we will carry on the business of the Lodge without you . " It will easily be conceived that such language as this , and the vehement tone in which it was uttered , was not greatly calculated to allay the excited feeling which had before been exhibited . There were , in fact , loud and angry expressions of disapprobation in all parts of the room . Order having been partially restored ,

Bro . Warren proceeded with his observations . . The record of minutes , as read , he repeated , was a very proper document for circulation amongst the Brethren to inform them as to what had been done and what were the opinions of the Grand Master . He concluded by moving , " That the minutes be confirmed only so far as they related to motions made and carried , the speech of the Grand Master being no legitimate part thereof . " Bro . Binckes seconded the motion .

The Grand Master then called upon the Grand Secretary to explain how it was the speech came to be in the minutes . Bro . White said this was not the first time such an occurrence had taken place . He had not acted on his own mere feeling in the matter . The Grand Master had before him the shorthand-writer ' s report of his speech , and having revised it , he returned it to him ( Bro . White ) for the purpose of putting it in the minutes . ( Loud cries of " Divide ! " " Divide ! " )

Bro . Warren said he did not object to the speech as a mere matter of record , but he did object to being called upon to confirm it along with the minutes . The S . G . W ., Bro . Bond Cabbell , contended that they were not asked to confirm the speech of the Grand Master , which was a mere matter of record , as part of the proceedings of the Grand Lodge on the occasion referred to . Confirmation did

not apply to it . The effect of Bro . Warren ' s motion would be , to expunge that speech from the minutes . No Brother ought to make a proposition of that kind . They were only asked to confirm what had been read as an accurate account of what had taken place in ?* rand Lodge ; they were not asked to confirm the sentiments contained in the speech . ( Loud cries of " Divide ! " " Divide ! " )

Bro . Harris , of No . 1 , said he had never addressed the Grand Lodge , and had not intended to do so on that occasion ; but he must confess that rather than see the independent sentiments of the Brethren thus ridden roughshod over by ever so vvorthy a Brother in the chair representing the Grand Master of Masons , he would walk out of that room and denude himself once and for ever of his Masonic clothing and Masonic functions . ( Applause . ) He had never before lifted up his

voice m that Grand Lodge , and he would not have done so then but for the conduct of the then representative of the Grand Master , who had interrupted and arbitrarily put down every Brother . ( Hear , hear ! and loud cries of " Oh ! " and " Question ! " ) He would speak to the question ; the question was , whether the Brethren would submit to that kind of thing ? ( Hear , hear ! and loud applause . )

The Grand Master ( warmly ) : " We are on the question of the confirmation or non-confirmation of the minutes . " Bro . Harris : " Well , then , I will speak to that question . " The Grand Master ( energetically using his gavel ) : " Brother , I have called you to order once , and— "

Bro . Harris : " No , you have not . " ( Hear ! and loud laughter . ) The Grand Master ( emphatically ) : " I have ; and I beg to inform you , that if I have to call you to order more than twice , I shall exercise my authority in requesting you to withdraw from the Lodge . " ( Hear , hear . ) Bro . Harris ; " Well , you have only called me to order once , yet— " ( Laughter . ) Bro . Harris attempted to proceed , but was literally " put down " by some of

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MASONIC PHILOSOPHY. Article 1
COMMON DESCENT OF OUR RACE. Article 9
PENCILLINGS FROM THE SKETCH-BOOK OF A MADRAS OFFICER. Article 10
AN INCIDENT. Article 22
THE NOAH'S ARK. Article 23
REVIEWS OF NEW BOOKS. Article 24
FINE ARTS. Article 25
CAUTIOUS SECRECY. Article 25
THE FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND THE CRAFT. Article 26
THE GRAND MASTER OF WORCESTERSHIRE AND THE FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE. Article 27
VISIT OF THE FEMALE CHILDREN TO THE CRYSTAL PALACE. Article 28
MYSTERY. Article 28
THE MASONIC MIRROR. Article 29
METROPOLITAN. Article 37
PROVINCIAL. Article 38
WORCESTERSHIRE. Article 57
ROYAL ARCH. Article 58
MARK MASONRY. Article 60
SCOTLAND, Article 60
IRELAND. Article 65
INDIA. Article 65
SUMMARY OF NEWS FOR SEPTEMBER. Article 68
Obituary. Article 71
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The Masonic Mirror.

The R . W . the Grand Master ( angrily ) : " I am ruling here , and I don't want advice from * anybody ! " ( Oh ] oh ! and loud expressions of indignant disapprobation . ) The Bev . Bro . G . B . Portal moved that the Lodge do now adjourn . This led to a scene of indescribable excitement and confusion , in the midst of which there were loud cries of " Motion ! " " Motion ! " from all parts of the room .

The Grand Master declared he would not put such a motion ; and said , " Those of you who wish it , will be permitted to retire , and we will carry on the business of the Lodge without you . " It will easily be conceived that such language as this , and the vehement tone in which it was uttered , was not greatly calculated to allay the excited feeling which had before been exhibited . There were , in fact , loud and angry expressions of disapprobation in all parts of the room . Order having been partially restored ,

Bro . Warren proceeded with his observations . . The record of minutes , as read , he repeated , was a very proper document for circulation amongst the Brethren to inform them as to what had been done and what were the opinions of the Grand Master . He concluded by moving , " That the minutes be confirmed only so far as they related to motions made and carried , the speech of the Grand Master being no legitimate part thereof . " Bro . Binckes seconded the motion .

The Grand Master then called upon the Grand Secretary to explain how it was the speech came to be in the minutes . Bro . White said this was not the first time such an occurrence had taken place . He had not acted on his own mere feeling in the matter . The Grand Master had before him the shorthand-writer ' s report of his speech , and having revised it , he returned it to him ( Bro . White ) for the purpose of putting it in the minutes . ( Loud cries of " Divide ! " " Divide ! " )

Bro . Warren said he did not object to the speech as a mere matter of record , but he did object to being called upon to confirm it along with the minutes . The S . G . W ., Bro . Bond Cabbell , contended that they were not asked to confirm the speech of the Grand Master , which was a mere matter of record , as part of the proceedings of the Grand Lodge on the occasion referred to . Confirmation did

not apply to it . The effect of Bro . Warren ' s motion would be , to expunge that speech from the minutes . No Brother ought to make a proposition of that kind . They were only asked to confirm what had been read as an accurate account of what had taken place in ?* rand Lodge ; they were not asked to confirm the sentiments contained in the speech . ( Loud cries of " Divide ! " " Divide ! " )

Bro . Harris , of No . 1 , said he had never addressed the Grand Lodge , and had not intended to do so on that occasion ; but he must confess that rather than see the independent sentiments of the Brethren thus ridden roughshod over by ever so vvorthy a Brother in the chair representing the Grand Master of Masons , he would walk out of that room and denude himself once and for ever of his Masonic clothing and Masonic functions . ( Applause . ) He had never before lifted up his

voice m that Grand Lodge , and he would not have done so then but for the conduct of the then representative of the Grand Master , who had interrupted and arbitrarily put down every Brother . ( Hear , hear ! and loud cries of " Oh ! " and " Question ! " ) He would speak to the question ; the question was , whether the Brethren would submit to that kind of thing ? ( Hear , hear ! and loud applause . )

The Grand Master ( warmly ) : " We are on the question of the confirmation or non-confirmation of the minutes . " Bro . Harris : " Well , then , I will speak to that question . " The Grand Master ( energetically using his gavel ) : " Brother , I have called you to order once , and— "

Bro . Harris : " No , you have not . " ( Hear ! and loud laughter . ) The Grand Master ( emphatically ) : " I have ; and I beg to inform you , that if I have to call you to order more than twice , I shall exercise my authority in requesting you to withdraw from the Lodge . " ( Hear , hear . ) Bro . Harris ; " Well , you have only called me to order once , yet— " ( Laughter . ) Bro . Harris attempted to proceed , but was literally " put down " by some of

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