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The Masonic Mirror.

THE MASONIC MIRROR .

The usual quarterly communication of the Grand Lodge of England was held in the Temple on Wednesday , September 3 , at eight o ' clock . Bro . Lewis , Prov . G . M . for Sumatra , being the oldest Prov . G . M . present , officiated as R . W . G . M ., in the absence of the Bight Hon . Bro . the Earl of Zetland , supported by the Hon . Bro . G . C . Anderson , Prov . G . M . for the Bahamas , as D . G . M . ; Bro . B . B . Cahbell , Prov . G . M . for Norfolk , as S . W . ; Bro . Tooke , J . W . ; the Hon .

GRAND LODGE . Quabterly Communication-, September 3 , 1856

Bro . Dutton , M . P ., Prov . G . M . for Gloucestershire ; Bro . Bagshaw , Prov . G . M for Essex ; Bro . Col . Burlton , P . Prov . G . M . for Bengal ; Bro . the Bev . S . J . W . Hayes , P . G . Chap .: the Bev . Edward Moore and J , E . Cox , G . Chaps . ; Bro . W . H . White , G . Sec . ; Bro . H . L . Crohn , G . Sec . G-erman Correspondence ; Bro . Walmisly , G . S . B . ; R . W . Jennings , G . D . C ; T . Chapman , Assist . G . D . C . ; Bros . Hervey , Parkinson , F . Patterson , White , Potter , P . G . Ds . ; Bros . Le Veau , Patten , Biggs , P . G . S . Bs ., & c . & c .

THE MINUTES . The Grand Secretary read the minutes , with which was incorporated a revised report of the speech of the M . W . Grand Master , which extended to a considerable length . On the question of the confirmation of the minutes being put , Bro . H . G . Warren , P . M ., No . 202 , said , that before this question was put , he

wished to call the attention of the Brethren to the fact that the G-. Sec . had incorporated in the minutes a long speech of the M . W . G . M . on the last occasion . That speech was no part of the minutes , and they ought not to be asked to confirm it along with the minutes , more especially as it obtained matter with which many of them disagreed , whereas all the other speeches , taking different views , were passed over . He had had some experience in the meetings of public companies and other associations , and he could only say that it was out of all order and precedent to insert such a speech in anything to be called minutes . Minutes ought only to record the resolutions come to by Grand Lodge . ( Hear , hear . ) It was

very wrong to put them in the position of either confirming the G . M . s speech along with the minutes , or of rejecting the minutes altogether—( hear , hear ); and he should therefore move , as an amendment , that the minutes be confirmed only so far as they related to the resolutions come to by Grand Lodge . ( Loud applause . ) $£ Here followed a scene such as has rarely , if ever , been witnessed within the solemn and ceremonial precincts of the Supreme G rand Lodge of England . Bro . Warren was uproariously applauded ; but the R . W . Grand Master , interrupting him in his observations , said he would not put the motion . It was irregular and disrespectful to the M . W . the Grand Master .

Bro . Warren maintained he was perfectly in order ; no speech could form a portion of the minutes . He had no intention of behaving disrespectfully towards the Grand Master , to whom he felt Grand Lodge were much indebted for having had his speech printed , but it could not form part of the minutes . The E . W . Grand Master : You must put your amendment in writing before I can hear vou . Bro . Warren proceeded to the Secretary ' s table to do so , and a scene of great confusion ensued , in the course of which Bro . Jennings and other Brethren appeared to be offering suggestions to the Grand Master .

“The Freemasons' Monthly Magazine: 1856-10-01, Page 29” Masonic Periodicals Online, Library and Museum of Freemasonry, 2 July 2025, django:8000/periodicals/mmr/issues/frm_01101856/page/29/.
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MASONIC PHILOSOPHY. Article 1
COMMON DESCENT OF OUR RACE. Article 9
PENCILLINGS FROM THE SKETCH-BOOK OF A MADRAS OFFICER. Article 10
AN INCIDENT. Article 22
THE NOAH'S ARK. Article 23
REVIEWS OF NEW BOOKS. Article 24
FINE ARTS. Article 25
CAUTIOUS SECRECY. Article 25
THE FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE AND THE CRAFT. Article 26
THE GRAND MASTER OF WORCESTERSHIRE AND THE FREEMASONS' MAGAZINE. Article 27
VISIT OF THE FEMALE CHILDREN TO THE CRYSTAL PALACE. Article 28
MYSTERY. Article 28
THE MASONIC MIRROR. Article 29
METROPOLITAN. Article 37
PROVINCIAL. Article 38
WORCESTERSHIRE. Article 57
ROYAL ARCH. Article 58
MARK MASONRY. Article 60
SCOTLAND, Article 60
IRELAND. Article 65
INDIA. Article 65
SUMMARY OF NEWS FOR SEPTEMBER. Article 68
Obituary. Article 71
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The Masonic Mirror.

THE MASONIC MIRROR .

The usual quarterly communication of the Grand Lodge of England was held in the Temple on Wednesday , September 3 , at eight o ' clock . Bro . Lewis , Prov . G . M . for Sumatra , being the oldest Prov . G . M . present , officiated as R . W . G . M ., in the absence of the Bight Hon . Bro . the Earl of Zetland , supported by the Hon . Bro . G . C . Anderson , Prov . G . M . for the Bahamas , as D . G . M . ; Bro . B . B . Cahbell , Prov . G . M . for Norfolk , as S . W . ; Bro . Tooke , J . W . ; the Hon .

GRAND LODGE . Quabterly Communication-, September 3 , 1856

Bro . Dutton , M . P ., Prov . G . M . for Gloucestershire ; Bro . Bagshaw , Prov . G . M for Essex ; Bro . Col . Burlton , P . Prov . G . M . for Bengal ; Bro . the Bev . S . J . W . Hayes , P . G . Chap .: the Bev . Edward Moore and J , E . Cox , G . Chaps . ; Bro . W . H . White , G . Sec . ; Bro . H . L . Crohn , G . Sec . G-erman Correspondence ; Bro . Walmisly , G . S . B . ; R . W . Jennings , G . D . C ; T . Chapman , Assist . G . D . C . ; Bros . Hervey , Parkinson , F . Patterson , White , Potter , P . G . Ds . ; Bros . Le Veau , Patten , Biggs , P . G . S . Bs ., & c . & c .

THE MINUTES . The Grand Secretary read the minutes , with which was incorporated a revised report of the speech of the M . W . Grand Master , which extended to a considerable length . On the question of the confirmation of the minutes being put , Bro . H . G . Warren , P . M ., No . 202 , said , that before this question was put , he

wished to call the attention of the Brethren to the fact that the G-. Sec . had incorporated in the minutes a long speech of the M . W . G . M . on the last occasion . That speech was no part of the minutes , and they ought not to be asked to confirm it along with the minutes , more especially as it obtained matter with which many of them disagreed , whereas all the other speeches , taking different views , were passed over . He had had some experience in the meetings of public companies and other associations , and he could only say that it was out of all order and precedent to insert such a speech in anything to be called minutes . Minutes ought only to record the resolutions come to by Grand Lodge . ( Hear , hear . ) It was

very wrong to put them in the position of either confirming the G . M . s speech along with the minutes , or of rejecting the minutes altogether—( hear , hear ); and he should therefore move , as an amendment , that the minutes be confirmed only so far as they related to the resolutions come to by Grand Lodge . ( Loud applause . ) $£ Here followed a scene such as has rarely , if ever , been witnessed within the solemn and ceremonial precincts of the Supreme G rand Lodge of England . Bro . Warren was uproariously applauded ; but the R . W . Grand Master , interrupting him in his observations , said he would not put the motion . It was irregular and disrespectful to the M . W . the Grand Master .

Bro . Warren maintained he was perfectly in order ; no speech could form a portion of the minutes . He had no intention of behaving disrespectfully towards the Grand Master , to whom he felt Grand Lodge were much indebted for having had his speech printed , but it could not form part of the minutes . The E . W . Grand Master : You must put your amendment in writing before I can hear vou . Bro . Warren proceeded to the Secretary ' s table to do so , and a scene of great confusion ensued , in the course of which Bro . Jennings and other Brethren appeared to be offering suggestions to the Grand Master .

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