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countryBrethren ought to have ample opportunity of being made acquainted with the - subjects proposed for discussion in Grand Lodge . ( Hear , hear . ) This being done , they could discuss those questions in their Lodges , and depute some wellqualified Brother to come to town , and give utterance to their opinions . Five

weeks were not too long a period to carry these arrangements into effect . ( Hear , hear . ) The advantages derived by the country Brethren from such an arrangement a , s that which was now proposed , would be far more than an equivalent for any inconvenience which could be experienced by the London Brethren . He concludedby declaring that Bro . Boxburgh ' s objections must fall to the ground .

Bro . Aria thought that the information should be communicated to the London and country Lodges contemporaneously . Bro . Savage thought this was a serious matter , and they should not divide upon it without due deliberation . He thought that there was much weight in the objections urged by Bro . Roxburgh . For five weeks they would be tied up , however

important the nature of the questions they might wish to bring before Grand Lodge . ( Hear hear . ) He could not support the amend ment either , because it implied the principle that the Board of Benevolence must make their reports to the Board of Masters , which is not required by the Book of Constitutions . The Board of Masters was closed long before these recommendations were come to , and therefore , how could they be reported ? ( Hear , hear . )

Bro . Havers thought that the Board of General Purposes should reconsider the question , and send it back to Grand Lodge in a form in which it would he likely to be agreed to . Bro . Gregory , while fully acquiescing in the importance of communicating to the country Brethren the business which it was intended to bring on in Grand Lodge , thought the present motion would involve them in a serious difficulty .

Bro . Benson alluded to the " tinkering " with the laws and constitutions of Masonry , to which reference had been made , and said that the only difference between the Grand Registrar ' s " tinkering" and the " tinkering " ¦ of other Brethren was , that the Grand Registrar had taken a piece of tin or some better metal than other Brethren were " tinkering" with . ( Laughter . ) What could be easier than to alter two or three words in section 8 , page 26 ? He himself

submitted that it was quite out of place for Grand Lodge to throw aside , on the motion of any individual Brother , the report of the Board of General Purposes , which ought to be adopted ; and if Grand Lodge was to lay down a law against u tinkering , " let the Grand ^ Registrar and Bro . Boxburgh fight that matter out together . ( Hear , hear , and laughter . ) The question being put , the amendment was declared to be carried .

11 BP 0 RT OE THE COLONIAL BOARD . On the motion of the Bev . Bro , Westall , the following report was taken as read : — To the United Grand Lodge of Ancient Free and Accepted Masons of England . The Colonial Board beg to present the following Report upon the M . W . Grand Master ' s communication relative to Colonial Lodges and Brethren : —

1 st . The M . W . Grand Master states , that " representations have been made to him by memorials and otherwise from Lodges and Brethren in Rome of the colonies , as to the great inconvenience experienced by them , owing to the inevitable do lay in obtaining Grand Lodge certificates , which occupies in some cases twelve months ; and further , some thinking that the interests of the Graft in such colonies would be greatly promoted , if power were given to them to nominate at stated periods their own Prov . Grand Masters , subject to the approval of the M . W . Grand Master . "

2 nd . The M . W . Grand Master further states , " that he has taken these several matters into his consideration , and after the most mature deliberation , is of opinion that some remedies ought to be applied to meet the alleged inconveniences . " 3 rd . The M . W . Grand Master is of opinion that the same measure of relief Should apply to all District Grand Lodges without distinction .

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ELECTION OF GRAND MASTER. Article 1
THE CANADAS. Article 2
THE EIGHT OF REPORTING IN GRAND LODGE. Article 3
NOTICE OF GRAND LODGE BUISNESS. Article 5
THE CANADIAN MOVEMENT. Article 5
THE QUARRYMAN OF ST. POINT. Article 15
REVIEWS OF NEW BOOKS. Article 16
CORRESPONDENCE. Article 18
THE MASONIC MIRROR. Article 23
METROPOLITAN. Article 40
PROVINCIAL. Article 51
ROYAL ARCH. Article 59
KNIGHTS TEMPLAR. Article 63
THE HIGH GRADES. Article 68
MARK MASONRY. Article 68
SCOTLAND. Article 69
COLONIAL Article 75
INDIA Article 79
MASONIC FESTIVITIES Article 80
SUMMARY OF NEWS FOR MARCH Article 83
MASONIC ARCHITECTURE. Article 89
Obituary. Article 90
NOTICE. Article 91
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countryBrethren ought to have ample opportunity of being made acquainted with the - subjects proposed for discussion in Grand Lodge . ( Hear , hear . ) This being done , they could discuss those questions in their Lodges , and depute some wellqualified Brother to come to town , and give utterance to their opinions . Five

weeks were not too long a period to carry these arrangements into effect . ( Hear , hear . ) The advantages derived by the country Brethren from such an arrangement a , s that which was now proposed , would be far more than an equivalent for any inconvenience which could be experienced by the London Brethren . He concludedby declaring that Bro . Boxburgh ' s objections must fall to the ground .

Bro . Aria thought that the information should be communicated to the London and country Lodges contemporaneously . Bro . Savage thought this was a serious matter , and they should not divide upon it without due deliberation . He thought that there was much weight in the objections urged by Bro . Roxburgh . For five weeks they would be tied up , however

important the nature of the questions they might wish to bring before Grand Lodge . ( Hear hear . ) He could not support the amend ment either , because it implied the principle that the Board of Benevolence must make their reports to the Board of Masters , which is not required by the Book of Constitutions . The Board of Masters was closed long before these recommendations were come to , and therefore , how could they be reported ? ( Hear , hear . )

Bro . Havers thought that the Board of General Purposes should reconsider the question , and send it back to Grand Lodge in a form in which it would he likely to be agreed to . Bro . Gregory , while fully acquiescing in the importance of communicating to the country Brethren the business which it was intended to bring on in Grand Lodge , thought the present motion would involve them in a serious difficulty .

Bro . Benson alluded to the " tinkering " with the laws and constitutions of Masonry , to which reference had been made , and said that the only difference between the Grand Registrar ' s " tinkering" and the " tinkering " ¦ of other Brethren was , that the Grand Registrar had taken a piece of tin or some better metal than other Brethren were " tinkering" with . ( Laughter . ) What could be easier than to alter two or three words in section 8 , page 26 ? He himself

submitted that it was quite out of place for Grand Lodge to throw aside , on the motion of any individual Brother , the report of the Board of General Purposes , which ought to be adopted ; and if Grand Lodge was to lay down a law against u tinkering , " let the Grand ^ Registrar and Bro . Boxburgh fight that matter out together . ( Hear , hear , and laughter . ) The question being put , the amendment was declared to be carried .

11 BP 0 RT OE THE COLONIAL BOARD . On the motion of the Bev . Bro , Westall , the following report was taken as read : — To the United Grand Lodge of Ancient Free and Accepted Masons of England . The Colonial Board beg to present the following Report upon the M . W . Grand Master ' s communication relative to Colonial Lodges and Brethren : —

1 st . The M . W . Grand Master states , that " representations have been made to him by memorials and otherwise from Lodges and Brethren in Rome of the colonies , as to the great inconvenience experienced by them , owing to the inevitable do lay in obtaining Grand Lodge certificates , which occupies in some cases twelve months ; and further , some thinking that the interests of the Graft in such colonies would be greatly promoted , if power were given to them to nominate at stated periods their own Prov . Grand Masters , subject to the approval of the M . W . Grand Master . "

2 nd . The M . W . Grand Master further states , " that he has taken these several matters into his consideration , and after the most mature deliberation , is of opinion that some remedies ought to be applied to meet the alleged inconveniences . " 3 rd . The M . W . Grand Master is of opinion that the same measure of relief Should apply to all District Grand Lodges without distinction .

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