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Old Antiquity.

and preserved , and that under his distinguished presidency it may long retain its high character and its distinctive system , its prestige at home and its popularity abroad . " We also append to this a leader from the Freemason with respect to the interesting article in the Times , in order to render this little reference to an interesting subject complete : — " In a very able leadermainly with respect to

, the Lodge of Antiquity , the Times , on Thursday week , gave us a very remarkable and readable ' leader ' on Freemasonry . Not that the article professed to be very antiquarian , or very profound , or even , perhaps , very critical , but it skimmed over the ground easil y and pleasantly , and laid before a very large circle of readers a well-written and philosophically-conceived essay on certain features , salient and significant , which Freemasonry presented to the mind of

the writer , and -which deserves , therefore , respectful attention , and , above all , fraternal criticism . In a great deal which the writer there affirms we agree most heartily ; in some points , however , we are compelled honestl y to dissent from his views , most conscientious , no doubt , as they are , and certainly lucidly and eloquently expressed . We quite agree with the writer that in dealing with the antiquity of Freemasonry we must always

carefulldisy tinguish between the 'legends of guilds' and the 'facts of history . ' -But then , our good friend and probably brother , wdio is so clear a writer and so keen a critic himself , falls amusingly enough into the same very error he has just so characteristicall y reproved . Whatever maj ^ he the real antiquity of Masonry , it is probably co-eval with the Masonic guilds or sodalities , and

hence , no doubt , much of the doubt and obscurity , and the incorrect assertions and exaggerated claims which have arisen aud which marked most undoubtedl y the lucubrations of many Masonic writers , ancient and modern . But , as we said , if the writer of this interesting article complains of undue acceptance of ' legends , ' why has he fallen into the same mistake b y treating the so-called Locke MS . and the alleged endorsement or transcri pt of Henry VI . as a realitywhen that so-called MS . has long been abandoned bexperts as a

, y ' pious fraud ? ' And why , above all , does he suggest the absorption of the speculative element into the operative guilds as ' possible' in the 15 th century , when it is clear from countless evidences which might be adduced that such transformation could not and did not take place until about the middle of the 17 th century ? We are not quite sure either whether we can . accept as indisputable facts one or two statements in respect of the Lodof Antiquit

ge y itself , with all-due submission to the writer . There is in existence no evidence that King Charles II . laid the foundation-stone of St . Paul ' s ; all existing available evidence declares that Sir Christopher Wren laid it himself . But it is just possible that the tradition may allude to some special ceremony at St . Paul ' s with which King Charles II . was connected , and we do not know , except for historical truth ' s sakethat it matters much one or the other . The

, way gavel was undoubtedly given to the Lodge by Bro . Sir Christopher Wren . The statement of the initiation of King William III . is also only a ' tradition , ' and we are not aware of any document in the possession of the Lodge of Antiquity which mentions the fact as a fact . We venture to say all this in order to point out that even in 1879 how difficult it is to separate ' tradition ' from ' history , ' and how that , as it has been said , how true it still is —•

Tradition , oh , tradition , thou of the seraph tongue , The ark which binds two ages , the ancient and the young . ' We thence learn a lesson of caution as to blaming older writers . We do not agree with the writer when he seems to contend that there is some truth after all in the favourite Ultramontane complaint that the ' French lodges were instrumental in fostering the French Revolution . ' We do not think that any evidence of such a tendency really exists , but much , very much , to the contrary may be adduced . That in some of the lodges extreme views of

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OLD ANTIQUITY. Article 1
IN MEMORIAM: Article 7
FREEMASONRY IN KELSO. Article 8
SARAH BERNHARDT. Article 13
TRYING TO CHANGE A SOVEREIGN. Article 14
SINGULAR CEREMONY IN MAKING ALNWICK FREEMEN. Article 24
ACROSTIC. Article 25
BEATRICE. Article 26
HISTORICAL LUCUBRATIONS. Article 28
VIXEN.* Article 30
AN OLD MASONIC CHAIR AND ITS HISTORICAL ASSOCIATIONS. Article 31
A HUNDRED YEARS FROM NOW. Article 33
A HUNDRED YEARS FROM NOW. Article 35
ON OLD ENGLISH BIBLES. Article 36
MY INITIATION INTO THE ABYSSINIAN MYSTERIES. Article 41
THE BUDDING SPRING. Article 43
THE DIDOT SALE. Article 44
THE POWER OF SONG. Article 47
NOTES ON LITERATURE, SCIENCE, AND ART. Article 48
THE FANCY FAIR. Article 50
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Old Antiquity.

and preserved , and that under his distinguished presidency it may long retain its high character and its distinctive system , its prestige at home and its popularity abroad . " We also append to this a leader from the Freemason with respect to the interesting article in the Times , in order to render this little reference to an interesting subject complete : — " In a very able leadermainly with respect to

, the Lodge of Antiquity , the Times , on Thursday week , gave us a very remarkable and readable ' leader ' on Freemasonry . Not that the article professed to be very antiquarian , or very profound , or even , perhaps , very critical , but it skimmed over the ground easil y and pleasantly , and laid before a very large circle of readers a well-written and philosophically-conceived essay on certain features , salient and significant , which Freemasonry presented to the mind of

the writer , and -which deserves , therefore , respectful attention , and , above all , fraternal criticism . In a great deal which the writer there affirms we agree most heartily ; in some points , however , we are compelled honestl y to dissent from his views , most conscientious , no doubt , as they are , and certainly lucidly and eloquently expressed . We quite agree with the writer that in dealing with the antiquity of Freemasonry we must always

carefulldisy tinguish between the 'legends of guilds' and the 'facts of history . ' -But then , our good friend and probably brother , wdio is so clear a writer and so keen a critic himself , falls amusingly enough into the same very error he has just so characteristicall y reproved . Whatever maj ^ he the real antiquity of Masonry , it is probably co-eval with the Masonic guilds or sodalities , and

hence , no doubt , much of the doubt and obscurity , and the incorrect assertions and exaggerated claims which have arisen aud which marked most undoubtedl y the lucubrations of many Masonic writers , ancient and modern . But , as we said , if the writer of this interesting article complains of undue acceptance of ' legends , ' why has he fallen into the same mistake b y treating the so-called Locke MS . and the alleged endorsement or transcri pt of Henry VI . as a realitywhen that so-called MS . has long been abandoned bexperts as a

, y ' pious fraud ? ' And why , above all , does he suggest the absorption of the speculative element into the operative guilds as ' possible' in the 15 th century , when it is clear from countless evidences which might be adduced that such transformation could not and did not take place until about the middle of the 17 th century ? We are not quite sure either whether we can . accept as indisputable facts one or two statements in respect of the Lodof Antiquit

ge y itself , with all-due submission to the writer . There is in existence no evidence that King Charles II . laid the foundation-stone of St . Paul ' s ; all existing available evidence declares that Sir Christopher Wren laid it himself . But it is just possible that the tradition may allude to some special ceremony at St . Paul ' s with which King Charles II . was connected , and we do not know , except for historical truth ' s sakethat it matters much one or the other . The

, way gavel was undoubtedly given to the Lodge by Bro . Sir Christopher Wren . The statement of the initiation of King William III . is also only a ' tradition , ' and we are not aware of any document in the possession of the Lodge of Antiquity which mentions the fact as a fact . We venture to say all this in order to point out that even in 1879 how difficult it is to separate ' tradition ' from ' history , ' and how that , as it has been said , how true it still is —•

Tradition , oh , tradition , thou of the seraph tongue , The ark which binds two ages , the ancient and the young . ' We thence learn a lesson of caution as to blaming older writers . We do not agree with the writer when he seems to contend that there is some truth after all in the favourite Ultramontane complaint that the ' French lodges were instrumental in fostering the French Revolution . ' We do not think that any evidence of such a tendency really exists , but much , very much , to the contrary may be adduced . That in some of the lodges extreme views of

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