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Ancient Masonic Lodges, No. Iv.

ANCIENT MASONIC LODGES , NO . IV .

BY BRO . W . J . HUGHAN . In continuing onr sketches of old Lodges whose origin and existence date

before the institution of the first Grand Lodge in the world , we now desire to refer our readers to the St . Andrew ' s Lodge , Banff , now No . 52 on the Eoll of the Grand Lodge of Scotland , and

to which a date is ascribed of 1736 . Its records , however preserved , commence in 1 * 703 . These records refer to

older documents , which are now , alas , unknown , but evidently the lodge itself has existed for a very long period . Banff holds a peculiarly prominent position in Scotland , from the fact that

the resident members of the Masonic body have been connected with the workings of the Masonic Knights Templars and other degrees , including the lioyal Arch and the Mark Master , for upwards of a century . Before A . D

. 1720 only two degrees are ever mentioned , the Fellow Craft ( the second ) being questionable even then as to its being a degree after all—but only a grade . Of course the offi . ee of Master Mason was recognised , but never as a

degree , before the influence of the Eevivalists of A . D . 1717 was felt in the North . In the other lodge held in the town , called "St . John ' s Operative , " No . 92 , warranted A . D . 1764 , the Eoyal Arch has flourished since A . D . 1765 ,

and it is believed to have been one of the earliest working chapters in the world , and certainly none so far as we know possess minute books of the degree before it . We intend referring to this lodge againbut on returning to

, " St . Andrew ' s" we find that it remained true to pure and unadulterated Craft Masonry until A . D . 1787 . Not like " Mother Kilwinning and the Lodge of Edinburgh" though , which from the

earliest period to the present year have never given more than three , degrees , including the choice of the Mark . Under the old system , before modern Freimasonry arose as a Phcenix " wos ? - its ashes , the distinction was always

carefully drawn between " operative " . and " geometrical" Masons . The latter consisted of gentlemen who had to pay some fifty per cent , more in duns , in consequence of not being operatives , or craftsmen . It is nonsense to talk of

the Craft being only operative before A . D . 1717 , and that none but bona fide workmen were admitted into its ranks ! There is scarcely a record before the " Eevival" but what will prove the fact of the Masonic Craft being speculative ,

as well as operative . We have ( through the kindness of Bro . Stenhouse Bairnsfather , P . M ., whose accuracy may be relied on ) been favoured with a mvmber of excerpts from the minutes of this ancient lodge . One of the earliest of these commences December 27 , 1708 , in which , it is

stated that" In presence of Alexr . Mill , Mr . for the ensuing year , and Alexr . Forsyth , Warden for the said year , Patric Leslye , Johne Anderson , Andrew Eussall , James Bennet , Laclan Jemison , James

Faith , and Alexr . Forsyth , yunger , the foresaid number being Masons , heave resolved to pay in four sh . Scots each of them and the rest of the traid , to a box which is to be paid for tha use , commencing from [ part torn out ] at the

end of everie year , and the box delivered to Alexr . Forsyth , elder , with two pound fortein shil Scots , and an bond for four pound fors'd and James Alexr . and Juhn Murhid vests ther yearlie contrabntion ; and the meeting

ordaus al the members concerned to cess the meetings under the payment of four sh . Scots , and ordains the monie in the box ye bond to be lent out upon intrest from Candlmes next headvice . " According to usage , the senior Warden of the lodge was permitted to act as Master in the absence of the regular officer . It was resolved that—

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Untitled Article 1
Monthly Masonic Summary. Article 2
ANCIENT MASONIC LODGES, NO. IV. Article 3
THE OLD MASONIC POEM. Article 9
THE NEW MORALITY. Article 10
MONSIEUR LE BARON. Article 11
THE MAIDEN'S LAST FAREWELL. Article 14
CRICKETALIA. Article 15
THE CHEQUERED FLOOR-CLOTH. Article 16
Untitled Article 17
LIGHT FOR THE BLIND. Article 17
Untitled Ad 18
THE NIGHTINGALE. Article 21
TAKING IT FOR GRANTED. Article 22
DISPERSION OF LANGUAGE. Article 27
MOTHER KEMP ON READING MASONS. Article 28
AN ELEPHANT HUNT IN SIAM. Article 30
BETTER THINGS. Article 31
RIP VAN WINKLE LODGE, No. 1001. Article 31
THE SILVER LINING. Article 33
BRO. EMRA HOLMES ON CHARLES DICKENS. Article 34
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Ancient Masonic Lodges, No. Iv.

ANCIENT MASONIC LODGES , NO . IV .

BY BRO . W . J . HUGHAN . In continuing onr sketches of old Lodges whose origin and existence date

before the institution of the first Grand Lodge in the world , we now desire to refer our readers to the St . Andrew ' s Lodge , Banff , now No . 52 on the Eoll of the Grand Lodge of Scotland , and

to which a date is ascribed of 1736 . Its records , however preserved , commence in 1 * 703 . These records refer to

older documents , which are now , alas , unknown , but evidently the lodge itself has existed for a very long period . Banff holds a peculiarly prominent position in Scotland , from the fact that

the resident members of the Masonic body have been connected with the workings of the Masonic Knights Templars and other degrees , including the lioyal Arch and the Mark Master , for upwards of a century . Before A . D

. 1720 only two degrees are ever mentioned , the Fellow Craft ( the second ) being questionable even then as to its being a degree after all—but only a grade . Of course the offi . ee of Master Mason was recognised , but never as a

degree , before the influence of the Eevivalists of A . D . 1717 was felt in the North . In the other lodge held in the town , called "St . John ' s Operative , " No . 92 , warranted A . D . 1764 , the Eoyal Arch has flourished since A . D . 1765 ,

and it is believed to have been one of the earliest working chapters in the world , and certainly none so far as we know possess minute books of the degree before it . We intend referring to this lodge againbut on returning to

, " St . Andrew ' s" we find that it remained true to pure and unadulterated Craft Masonry until A . D . 1787 . Not like " Mother Kilwinning and the Lodge of Edinburgh" though , which from the

earliest period to the present year have never given more than three , degrees , including the choice of the Mark . Under the old system , before modern Freimasonry arose as a Phcenix " wos ? - its ashes , the distinction was always

carefully drawn between " operative " . and " geometrical" Masons . The latter consisted of gentlemen who had to pay some fifty per cent , more in duns , in consequence of not being operatives , or craftsmen . It is nonsense to talk of

the Craft being only operative before A . D . 1717 , and that none but bona fide workmen were admitted into its ranks ! There is scarcely a record before the " Eevival" but what will prove the fact of the Masonic Craft being speculative ,

as well as operative . We have ( through the kindness of Bro . Stenhouse Bairnsfather , P . M ., whose accuracy may be relied on ) been favoured with a mvmber of excerpts from the minutes of this ancient lodge . One of the earliest of these commences December 27 , 1708 , in which , it is

stated that" In presence of Alexr . Mill , Mr . for the ensuing year , and Alexr . Forsyth , Warden for the said year , Patric Leslye , Johne Anderson , Andrew Eussall , James Bennet , Laclan Jemison , James

Faith , and Alexr . Forsyth , yunger , the foresaid number being Masons , heave resolved to pay in four sh . Scots each of them and the rest of the traid , to a box which is to be paid for tha use , commencing from [ part torn out ] at the

end of everie year , and the box delivered to Alexr . Forsyth , elder , with two pound fortein shil Scots , and an bond for four pound fors'd and James Alexr . and Juhn Murhid vests ther yearlie contrabntion ; and the meeting

ordaus al the members concerned to cess the meetings under the payment of four sh . Scots , and ordains the monie in the box ye bond to be lent out upon intrest from Candlmes next headvice . " According to usage , the senior Warden of the lodge was permitted to act as Master in the absence of the regular officer . It was resolved that—

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