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Original Correspondence.

¦ National Great Priory ; an honorary member of the Mary Commandery , No . 3 6 , Philadelphia ; of the Apollo Commandery , No . 1 , Chicago , United Statesof America ; and of the Ancient Ebor Preceptory , No . 101 , York . He is a member of the 32 ° of the A . and A . Scottish Rite , and Past M . W . S . of the Hilda Chapter , Rose Croix , Whitby ( n iw transferred to York ); an lntendant General o (

Division , unattached , in the Degree of the Red Cross of Rome and Constantine , Past Prov . Treasurer Yorkshire College of Rosicrucians , a member of the Royal Order of Scotland , and honorary member of several Craft and Mark lodges . Bro . Woodall was educated at Rugby , and graduated at Oriel College , Oxford ; H . A . in 1 S 54 , and obtained the

distinction of "first-class " in Physical Science , and M . A . in 1 S 60 ! is a member of thc British Association for the Advancement of Science , and has twice served the office of Secretary of the Geological Section , and is also a F . G . S . and F . Z . S . In civic matters Bro . Woodall has attained the highest distinctions in the gift of his fellow-townsmen . He was

Mayor of Scarborough in 1 S 69-70 , and also in 1 SS 1-2 ; is an Alderman , Justice of Peace for the North Riding of Yorks , Chairman of the Scarborough Harbour Trust , Treasurer cf the Scarborough School Board , and has always been identified with all educational movements . Bro . Woodall is also an enthusiastic yachtsman , is a member of the Royal Yorkshire and Royal Thames Yacht

Clubs , and Hon . Lieut . R . N . R . No Masonic movement with which Bro . Woodall has been connected has ever been allowed to languish for want of such pecuniary assistance as he could offer , and it is entirely owing to the substantial help received from Bro . Woodall that the Masons of Scarborough have been enabled within the last few weeks to solemnly dedicate to

Freemasonry a spacious and beautiful lodge room , entirely their own , in one of the best situations in tbe town , and to which is attached a large and commodious suite of rooms , with all the appointments of a comfortable licst-class club . The success of this undertaking has already proved so great , that brethren from various parts of England are applying to be admitted to membership of the club , in

order to enjoy its privileges when they visit Scarborough in the " season . " On the dedication of the Hall and opening of thc Club he was presented wilh a life-size three-quarter length portrait of himself , in token of the appreciation in which he is held by his brethren . Such is the brief , but concise , Masonic life-history of the distinguished brother who has been nominated to the office of Grand Treasurer of the United Grand Lodgeof England .

Masonic Notes And Queries.

Masonic Notes and Queries .

471 ] RAMSAY'S ADDRESS . In answer to Bro . Speth I would say that there is , I believe , no English Masonic translation of it , unless quite late in the eighteenth century . I seem , however , to think I have seen a translation of it . There was a work professedly published in London in 1757 , containing some verses by

by Voltaire and others , in which it appears , according to the " Handbuch , " and therefore in some one of our " Companions , " & c , a translation may be found . Of course , as Bro . Speth knows , there is a grave question about the " Discours . " Though attributed to Ramsay , it is doubtful whether he delivered it at all , or whether even the address really was his . Three questions have to be answered—Was it written bv Ramsav ? When and where was it delivered . '

Was it ever delivered at all ? Since the earlier Handbuch's , & c , were written , fresh evidence has accrued , and it seems equally more than doubtful if all the hard words which have been applied to Ramsay have been in any way deserved , either as the " Fautor " of the "High Grades , " so called , or . the inventor of the " Templar" organisation . The first publication of the "Discours" in French appears to have been at Paris , in 1740 ; again in 1741 , either there or at

the Hague ; and thirdly at Frankfort , in 1742 . Something has been said of a volume published in Holland almost contemporaneously , containing verses by Voltaire and Piron , and this address , but thc fact seems dubious . As the address first appeared it was entitled " Discours d ' un Grand Mailre dans la Grande Loge , " & c . It afterwards sometimes appears as "Discours du G . Orateur dans la G . Loge , " & c . If the letter cited by Daruty as in the

Memoirs of Fleury be correct ( and it may still be m the French Archives ) in 173 G-37 , Ramsay submitted to the approval of Cardinal Fleury a " Discours" he was going to deliver the next day to the Grand I . odge . He begs it back , and implores the favour of the King and Cardinal . According to Daruty , across the original letter is written by Cardinal Fleury , " Le Roi ne le veut pas . " We hear nothing more of Ramsay , who seems to have died in 1742-3 .

Doubts may then be fairly entertained as to whether the oration was delivered by Ramsay at all . The " Discours " certainly was printed in his life-time , and we may draw from that fact conclusions " pro and con . " The Due d'Antin seems to have been Grand Master in 1740 , though the French accounts are very obscure , and the first theory seems to have been that Ramsay wrote it for him , and that he , the Due d'Antin , delivered it . "The Discours , "

according to Kloss , seems to have been first published at Paris in 1740 , again in 1741 , and at Frankfort in 1742 . At No . 260 Kloss declares the "Discours" to be Ramsay ' s , and then for the first tnr ^ e printed . If the " Relation Apologetique" be written by Ramsay , published , as alleged , by O'Donoko , at Dublin , in 1738 , and burnt at Rome in 1739 , it would stengthen the _ idea that Ramsay consented to the publication of his address ,

even if he did not deliver it . Certainly the irony of a Masonic "Crux" cannot go further than that we should even have to face the question whether Ramsay wrote the address , and whether it was ever delivered . I am inclined to think that Ramsay wrote it , that it was not delivered , but published . At the same time a very great deal may be said on both sides , as usual , lt would be interesting if we could discover when the address is first openly attributed to Ramsay . MASONIC STUDENT .

lliiO . "SCOTUS" AND HAUGHFOOT LODGE . In Bro . "Scotus '" appreciative communication as to my work on "The Origin of the English Rite of Freemasonry , " he appears to consider I assume too much in

Masonic Notes And Queries.

declaring tbat tbe ceremony , if any , in 1702 at Haughfoot , on the reception of a Fellow Craft or Master Mason , was the same as on the admission of an Apprentice . The record is as follows , the parts italicised by me being to point out in part the basis for my remarks , and I may also add , on the authority of Bro . R . Sandison ( Prov . G . Sec . Peebles , & c ) , who has examined all the records , that throughout the volume there is no reference to the three

separate degrees , as we understand the term , but only to thc three grades , or positions . Of course , it may be said that no allusion to degrees does not prove there were none , which 1 admit , but the fact of there being no reference to separate Masonic Degrees , prior _ to the era of Grand Lodges , may fairly be cited by me in proof of there being

no evidence that any such ceremonies were worked prior to early last century , say 1715-20 . This is all 1 really claim : 22 Dec . 1702 ( Haughfoot ) . " Of entrie as thc Apprentice did , leaving out ( the Common Judge ) . They then whisper the word as before , and the Master Mason grips his hand in the ordinary way . " 1 thank Bro . "Scotus" for his friendly communication . W . J . HUGHAN .

Reports Of Masonic Meetings.

REPORTS OF MASONIC MEETINGS .

" = === j == x == n . a : ^ B ^ CTg ^^^^ Craft JUasourg , EUPHRATES LODGE ( No . 212 ) . —A very successful meeting of tbe above old and prosperous lodge

was held on Wednesday , tbe 17 th inst ., at Masons' Hall , Masons' -avenue , Coleman-street , E . C . Bro . Donald Glass , P . M ., W . M ., opened the lodge , and was well supported as follows * . Bros . " ( . R . Martin . ' S . W . ; XV . J . Cooper , J . W . ; H . May , P . M ., Treas . ; W . J . Bassett , S . D . ; J . Seigenberg , J . D . ; G . Walduck , I . G . ; and a goodly array of

Past Masters , including Bros . I . Rushton , W . H . Kecknell , Hy . Wood , J . Halsey , C . Drosher , L . Stean , J . Carter , J . C . Franks , and numerous other brethren . Among the visitors were Bros . E . Prosser , S 60 ; J . Day , 141 ; G . W . Kidd , S 60 , * J . H . Pavitt , W . M . 860 ; J . B . Ennett , 77 ; | . Collins , S 60 ; A . T . Ives , S . W . 1472 J C . Wood , 1472 ; C . Winterton , 860 ; Eaton , S 7 g ; L . Guess , 8 79 ; W . J . Vance . P . M . 1472 ; T . I . Vohman , P . M . S 71 ; F . C . D .

Fenn , P . M . 171 ; G . Stevens , 1076 ; G . H . Stephens , W . M . 1623 ; and others . After the usual preliminary business had been disposed of , the ballot was taken on behalf of Bro . J . P . Thorn , 292 , as a joining member , with a favourable result . The ballot was next called into requisition for three candidates for admission to the Order , and this also proving satisfactory , Messrs . C . Mills , J . Taylor , and T . Pryor were admitted ,

and duly initiated into the mysteries of the Order , Bro . Glass again displaying his ability in the ceremony , and probably for the last time during his year of office , for the next business taken was the election of W . M . for the ensuing year . The choice of the brethren fell upon the worthy S . W ., Bro . Martin , and the election of Treasurer resulted in the re-appointment of Bro . Hy . May , P . M ., to that honourable position , and Bro . ] . J . Marsh was also

reelected Tyler . Auditors were next appointed to examine the lodge accounts , and officers were elected for the lodge Benevolent Fund—one of the best and most gratifying features of this good old lodge . Bro . Martin next proposed , and it was unanimously carried , that , as the W . M . was now completing his second year as W . M . of the lodge , the brethren mark their opinion of the high esteem they place on his valuable services rendered to the lodge by voting him the

usual amount from lodge funds . This , Bro . Martin explained , Bro . Glass , W . M ., who ' already possessed a Past Master ' s jewel , desired should be devoted to one of the three Masonic Benevolent Institutions , and which Bro . Glass intended to attend as Steward during the ensuing year . '" This announcement was well received , and " Hearty good wishes " having been offered , lodge was closed . The next business consisted of attending to the claims

which ' an excellent banquet presented , and which reflected great credit upon Bro . Wood for the excellent style in which it was served . At its conclusion Bro . Glass gave the usual loyal and Masonic toasts with point and brevity . Bro . L . Stean , the veteran P . M ., next proposed with beconvng terms "The Health of the W . M . " He said his long experience as an old Freemason had not brought him-into relationship with a brother who had so steadily and

successfully promoted the welfare of a lodge as Bro . Glass had the Euphrates Lodge . They all were aware how excellently he had worked in the lodge , but they could not all be aware how indefatigably he had worked at all times out of the lodge , besides undertaking the duties of the Secretary . Bro . Stean concluded by urging all who wished to excel in their Masonic career to take a leaf out of the W . Master's book . Bro . Glass , W . M ., in a few well-chosen words ,

returned thanks for the honour the brethren had done him . It was very gratifying to him to leain that at the end of his second year of oflice he had gained the esteem and approbation of the brethren of the lodge . His one aim had been to promote the welfare and secure a harmonious lodge , and his crown of reward had , he felt , been accorded him by their late esteemed and veteran P . M ., Bro . Coverley , upon his deathbed . " Thank God . " he had said , " Bro . Glass ,

1 have lived to see perfect unanimity in our lodge . " That unanimity he ( the W . M . ) would , so long as he continued a member of the Euphrates Lodge , do his utmost to sustain , and he thanked the brethren for this renewed mark of their appreciation of his services during the two years of his Mastership . The remaining toasts ' given were "The Past Masters , " ably replied for on behalf of those brethren by Bro . Stean ; "The Visitors , " suitably acknowledged by Bros . J . H .

Pavitt , W . M . 860 ; G . H . Stephens , W . M . 1623 ; and F . C . D . Fenn , P . M . 171 j and " The Masonic Charities , " Bro . Stean also replying to this , and Bro . Halsey , P . M ., on behalf of thc lodge Benevolent Fund , which was in capital position ; and " The Officers" and Tyler ' s toasts concluded a very pleasant meeting . Bro . Schartau , as usual , efficiently presided at the piano , and also rendered some capital songs , and Bro . Fenn favoured the brethren with a humorous song .

FRIARS LODGE ( No . 1349 )—The above lodge held a highly successful meeting on the 17 th inst ., at the London Tavern , Fenchurch-street , E . C . Lodge was opened by Bro . W . Mustop , P . M . and Treas ., and on arrival

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shortly after of the W . M ., Bro . E . J . Friedeberg ( who had been detained in consequence of having to journey across the Channel , a full business was disposed of in very capital style . The ceremonial working was as follows : Bro . J . Levienne , after being duly tested and entrusted , was passed to the Second Degree , and Bros . Marks , De Casurus , Prower , McDonald , R . Jones , and another brother were raised to the Sublime Degree , Bro . Friedeberg acquitting

himself of his arduous duties with remarkable efficiency and finish , whilst the officers and Past Masters rendered every necessary assistance . Some items of lodge business were next satisfactorily disposed of , and the lodge was closed . The brethren then adjourned to the Alabaster Room , where a nicely served banquet was partaken of , giving entire satisfaction . At the conclusion of thc repast the

W . M . duly introduced the usual loyal and Craft toasts , which were loyally honoured . "The Health of the W . M . " was given in deservedly framed words of praise upon the success attending Bro . Friedeberg's working in the chair , and in response to the hearty reception which greeted the toast of his health the W . M . expressed himself grateful to Bro . Musto , I . P . M ., for the eulogistic terms he had employed , and said he

attributed much of the praise that had been bestowed upon him tothe gratification which Bro . Musto , P . M ., felt that one from among his many pupils should display the great advantages he had derived from his teaching . He ( Bro . Friedeberg ) had to thank Bro . Musto for his knowledge of Masonry . The other toasts given were those of "The Past Masters of the Lodge , " responded to by Bros . Musto , P . M ., and

Hogg , P . M . ; "The Visitors , " acknowledged by Bros . T . O . Harding and G . H . Stephens ; and "TheOfficers , " responded to by the brethren severally . Among the numerous attendance were Bros . W . J . Musto , S . W . ; Sadd , I . W . ; W . Musto , P . M ., Treas . ; W . Hogg , Sec . ; H . Marks , S . D . ; W . Shoesmith , I . G . ; Quincey , Christmas , Mitchell , Minchin , Hallam , P . M .,

Booth , A . Peterken , P . M . ; J . A . De Costa ; li . DeCosta , F . Saunders , and J . Marks . Visitors : Bros . B . Franks , Z 12 ; H . Hallam , True Friendship ; T . O . Harding , J . Solomons , G . H . Stephens , and others . The post prandial proceedings were capitally enlivened by some good singing by Bros . E . Monk , Hillocks , and others , a favourite reading by Bro . W . J . Musto , S . W ., and a most enjoyable evening was spent .

COVENT GARDEN LODGE ( No . 1614 ) . — The regular meeting of this lodge was held at The Criterion , Piccadilly , on the 2 nd inst . Bro . G . Coleman , W . M ., presided , supported by the following officers * •Bros . J . Jacobs , S . W . ; T . A . Dickson , J . W . ; E . J acobs , P . M ., Treas . ; W . Bourne , P . M ., Sec ; C . Ralph ; acting as S . D . ; B . Solomons , J . D . ; G . Reynolds , acting as I . G . ; S . Jacobs , P . M .. W . S . ; K .-F . Potter , Tyler ; G . A . Holditch ,

T . Wilson , A . Bryan , W . Unwin . S . Hewett , W . Cousins , C . Ralph , D . Mordecai , S . Isaacs , L . Isaacs , J . Napper , A . Freeman , T . Snow , G . Howard , J . L . Ripley , C . J . Shannon , T . Skinner , G . H . Reynolds , 1 ] . Woodward , and G . N . Foord . Visitors : Bros . Rose , 1793 ; A . Clark , P . M . 1227 ; Z . Mordecai , 134 S ; G . W . Churchley , P . M . 290 , G 15 , and 1 S 37 , P . P . G . S . Kent ; and VV . A . Dowling , 2012 . The lodge was opened in due form , and the minutes of

the last meeting were read and confirmed . Bro . A . Bryan was then passed to the degree of F . C . A ballot was taken for Mr . G . H . Foord , which proving unanimous , he was duly initiated into Freemasonry , the W . M . rendering the ceremonies in a clear and distinct manner , assisted by his officers . Bro . J . Jacobs , S . W ., was unanimously elected W . M . for the ensuing year . Bro . E . Jacobs , P . M ., was re-elected Treas . ; Bro . Wm . Bourne , P . M ., Sec ; and

R . F . Potter , Tyler . A Past Master ' s jewel , of the value of 10 guineas , was voted to Bro . G . Coleman , in recognition of his services as W . M . for the past year , and Bros . W . Cousins , S . Hewitt , and D . Mordecai were appointed as Audit Committee . The VV . M . having received the " Hearty good wishes " of the visiting brethren , the lodge was closed in ancient form , and the brethren adjourned to the banqueting room , where an excellent dinner was served , under the

superintendence of Bro . Bertini , of Messrs . Spiers and Pond . After the usual Masonic toasts had been duly honoured , Bro . E . Jacobs , P . M ., in the unavoidable absence of Bro . W . H . Gulliford , I . P . M ., took the gavel in his hand , and proposed "The Health of their worthy W . M . " It was the last time his health would be drank as W . M . of that lodge , and he felt sure it would be received well , as it ought

to be . He was not a member of any other lodge ; but his attention from an [ initiate going through all the offices was an example to all . The W . M . had worked hard , and been rewarded by occupying the proud position of K . S . for the past year , which , he felt sure , had been done to the satisfaction of the brethren . He was a good fellow out of the lodge , as well as in , and when the P . M . 's jewel was presented to him , he might wear it with pride , having served

all the offices in a true and Masonic spirit , and feeling that he had earned the same . The W . M ., in reply , said he certainly felt gratified that he had pleased the brethren of the lodge , which was proved by the hearty manner his health had been drunk . He trusted that for many years to come he would not only be able to give support to the mother , lodge , but also to the lodge of instruction connected with the lodge , where he

had received such instruction as enabled him to perform his duties to the satisfaction of the brethren . He met there many brethren anxious for work , and as a P . M . would still support the same and the lodge to the best of bis ability . In proposing "The Health of the Initiate , " the W . M . said the brethren must have observed the attention he paid to the ceremony , and he hoped some day to see him in the

position he now occupied . The Initiate returned his sincere thanks for the manner he had been received amongst them , and he would make it his duty to attend to the words of the W . M . and pay all the attention he could , and try to become a true and good Mason . The W . M ., in proposing "Thc Health of the W . M .

Elect , " said all knew how well he did his work in the different offices he had occupied , and there could be no doubt that as their W . M . he would give every attention to the same , and endeavour to make the brethren happy . The VV . M . elect thanked the brethren for their kind expressions of feeling , and said nothing should be wanting on his part for good working and the unity of the brethren .

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Original Correspondence.

¦ National Great Priory ; an honorary member of the Mary Commandery , No . 3 6 , Philadelphia ; of the Apollo Commandery , No . 1 , Chicago , United Statesof America ; and of the Ancient Ebor Preceptory , No . 101 , York . He is a member of the 32 ° of the A . and A . Scottish Rite , and Past M . W . S . of the Hilda Chapter , Rose Croix , Whitby ( n iw transferred to York ); an lntendant General o (

Division , unattached , in the Degree of the Red Cross of Rome and Constantine , Past Prov . Treasurer Yorkshire College of Rosicrucians , a member of the Royal Order of Scotland , and honorary member of several Craft and Mark lodges . Bro . Woodall was educated at Rugby , and graduated at Oriel College , Oxford ; H . A . in 1 S 54 , and obtained the

distinction of "first-class " in Physical Science , and M . A . in 1 S 60 ! is a member of thc British Association for the Advancement of Science , and has twice served the office of Secretary of the Geological Section , and is also a F . G . S . and F . Z . S . In civic matters Bro . Woodall has attained the highest distinctions in the gift of his fellow-townsmen . He was

Mayor of Scarborough in 1 S 69-70 , and also in 1 SS 1-2 ; is an Alderman , Justice of Peace for the North Riding of Yorks , Chairman of the Scarborough Harbour Trust , Treasurer cf the Scarborough School Board , and has always been identified with all educational movements . Bro . Woodall is also an enthusiastic yachtsman , is a member of the Royal Yorkshire and Royal Thames Yacht

Clubs , and Hon . Lieut . R . N . R . No Masonic movement with which Bro . Woodall has been connected has ever been allowed to languish for want of such pecuniary assistance as he could offer , and it is entirely owing to the substantial help received from Bro . Woodall that the Masons of Scarborough have been enabled within the last few weeks to solemnly dedicate to

Freemasonry a spacious and beautiful lodge room , entirely their own , in one of the best situations in tbe town , and to which is attached a large and commodious suite of rooms , with all the appointments of a comfortable licst-class club . The success of this undertaking has already proved so great , that brethren from various parts of England are applying to be admitted to membership of the club , in

order to enjoy its privileges when they visit Scarborough in the " season . " On the dedication of the Hall and opening of thc Club he was presented wilh a life-size three-quarter length portrait of himself , in token of the appreciation in which he is held by his brethren . Such is the brief , but concise , Masonic life-history of the distinguished brother who has been nominated to the office of Grand Treasurer of the United Grand Lodgeof England .

Masonic Notes And Queries.

Masonic Notes and Queries .

471 ] RAMSAY'S ADDRESS . In answer to Bro . Speth I would say that there is , I believe , no English Masonic translation of it , unless quite late in the eighteenth century . I seem , however , to think I have seen a translation of it . There was a work professedly published in London in 1757 , containing some verses by

by Voltaire and others , in which it appears , according to the " Handbuch , " and therefore in some one of our " Companions , " & c , a translation may be found . Of course , as Bro . Speth knows , there is a grave question about the " Discours . " Though attributed to Ramsay , it is doubtful whether he delivered it at all , or whether even the address really was his . Three questions have to be answered—Was it written bv Ramsav ? When and where was it delivered . '

Was it ever delivered at all ? Since the earlier Handbuch's , & c , were written , fresh evidence has accrued , and it seems equally more than doubtful if all the hard words which have been applied to Ramsay have been in any way deserved , either as the " Fautor " of the "High Grades , " so called , or . the inventor of the " Templar" organisation . The first publication of the "Discours" in French appears to have been at Paris , in 1740 ; again in 1741 , either there or at

the Hague ; and thirdly at Frankfort , in 1742 . Something has been said of a volume published in Holland almost contemporaneously , containing verses by Voltaire and Piron , and this address , but thc fact seems dubious . As the address first appeared it was entitled " Discours d ' un Grand Mailre dans la Grande Loge , " & c . It afterwards sometimes appears as "Discours du G . Orateur dans la G . Loge , " & c . If the letter cited by Daruty as in the

Memoirs of Fleury be correct ( and it may still be m the French Archives ) in 173 G-37 , Ramsay submitted to the approval of Cardinal Fleury a " Discours" he was going to deliver the next day to the Grand I . odge . He begs it back , and implores the favour of the King and Cardinal . According to Daruty , across the original letter is written by Cardinal Fleury , " Le Roi ne le veut pas . " We hear nothing more of Ramsay , who seems to have died in 1742-3 .

Doubts may then be fairly entertained as to whether the oration was delivered by Ramsay at all . The " Discours " certainly was printed in his life-time , and we may draw from that fact conclusions " pro and con . " The Due d'Antin seems to have been Grand Master in 1740 , though the French accounts are very obscure , and the first theory seems to have been that Ramsay wrote it for him , and that he , the Due d'Antin , delivered it . "The Discours , "

according to Kloss , seems to have been first published at Paris in 1740 , again in 1741 , and at Frankfort in 1742 . At No . 260 Kloss declares the "Discours" to be Ramsay ' s , and then for the first tnr ^ e printed . If the " Relation Apologetique" be written by Ramsay , published , as alleged , by O'Donoko , at Dublin , in 1738 , and burnt at Rome in 1739 , it would stengthen the _ idea that Ramsay consented to the publication of his address ,

even if he did not deliver it . Certainly the irony of a Masonic "Crux" cannot go further than that we should even have to face the question whether Ramsay wrote the address , and whether it was ever delivered . I am inclined to think that Ramsay wrote it , that it was not delivered , but published . At the same time a very great deal may be said on both sides , as usual , lt would be interesting if we could discover when the address is first openly attributed to Ramsay . MASONIC STUDENT .

lliiO . "SCOTUS" AND HAUGHFOOT LODGE . In Bro . "Scotus '" appreciative communication as to my work on "The Origin of the English Rite of Freemasonry , " he appears to consider I assume too much in

Masonic Notes And Queries.

declaring tbat tbe ceremony , if any , in 1702 at Haughfoot , on the reception of a Fellow Craft or Master Mason , was the same as on the admission of an Apprentice . The record is as follows , the parts italicised by me being to point out in part the basis for my remarks , and I may also add , on the authority of Bro . R . Sandison ( Prov . G . Sec . Peebles , & c ) , who has examined all the records , that throughout the volume there is no reference to the three

separate degrees , as we understand the term , but only to thc three grades , or positions . Of course , it may be said that no allusion to degrees does not prove there were none , which 1 admit , but the fact of there being no reference to separate Masonic Degrees , prior _ to the era of Grand Lodges , may fairly be cited by me in proof of there being

no evidence that any such ceremonies were worked prior to early last century , say 1715-20 . This is all 1 really claim : 22 Dec . 1702 ( Haughfoot ) . " Of entrie as thc Apprentice did , leaving out ( the Common Judge ) . They then whisper the word as before , and the Master Mason grips his hand in the ordinary way . " 1 thank Bro . "Scotus" for his friendly communication . W . J . HUGHAN .

Reports Of Masonic Meetings.

REPORTS OF MASONIC MEETINGS .

" = === j == x == n . a : ^ B ^ CTg ^^^^ Craft JUasourg , EUPHRATES LODGE ( No . 212 ) . —A very successful meeting of tbe above old and prosperous lodge

was held on Wednesday , tbe 17 th inst ., at Masons' Hall , Masons' -avenue , Coleman-street , E . C . Bro . Donald Glass , P . M ., W . M ., opened the lodge , and was well supported as follows * . Bros . " ( . R . Martin . ' S . W . ; XV . J . Cooper , J . W . ; H . May , P . M ., Treas . ; W . J . Bassett , S . D . ; J . Seigenberg , J . D . ; G . Walduck , I . G . ; and a goodly array of

Past Masters , including Bros . I . Rushton , W . H . Kecknell , Hy . Wood , J . Halsey , C . Drosher , L . Stean , J . Carter , J . C . Franks , and numerous other brethren . Among the visitors were Bros . E . Prosser , S 60 ; J . Day , 141 ; G . W . Kidd , S 60 , * J . H . Pavitt , W . M . 860 ; J . B . Ennett , 77 ; | . Collins , S 60 ; A . T . Ives , S . W . 1472 J C . Wood , 1472 ; C . Winterton , 860 ; Eaton , S 7 g ; L . Guess , 8 79 ; W . J . Vance . P . M . 1472 ; T . I . Vohman , P . M . S 71 ; F . C . D .

Fenn , P . M . 171 ; G . Stevens , 1076 ; G . H . Stephens , W . M . 1623 ; and others . After the usual preliminary business had been disposed of , the ballot was taken on behalf of Bro . J . P . Thorn , 292 , as a joining member , with a favourable result . The ballot was next called into requisition for three candidates for admission to the Order , and this also proving satisfactory , Messrs . C . Mills , J . Taylor , and T . Pryor were admitted ,

and duly initiated into the mysteries of the Order , Bro . Glass again displaying his ability in the ceremony , and probably for the last time during his year of office , for the next business taken was the election of W . M . for the ensuing year . The choice of the brethren fell upon the worthy S . W ., Bro . Martin , and the election of Treasurer resulted in the re-appointment of Bro . Hy . May , P . M ., to that honourable position , and Bro . ] . J . Marsh was also

reelected Tyler . Auditors were next appointed to examine the lodge accounts , and officers were elected for the lodge Benevolent Fund—one of the best and most gratifying features of this good old lodge . Bro . Martin next proposed , and it was unanimously carried , that , as the W . M . was now completing his second year as W . M . of the lodge , the brethren mark their opinion of the high esteem they place on his valuable services rendered to the lodge by voting him the

usual amount from lodge funds . This , Bro . Martin explained , Bro . Glass , W . M ., who ' already possessed a Past Master ' s jewel , desired should be devoted to one of the three Masonic Benevolent Institutions , and which Bro . Glass intended to attend as Steward during the ensuing year . '" This announcement was well received , and " Hearty good wishes " having been offered , lodge was closed . The next business consisted of attending to the claims

which ' an excellent banquet presented , and which reflected great credit upon Bro . Wood for the excellent style in which it was served . At its conclusion Bro . Glass gave the usual loyal and Masonic toasts with point and brevity . Bro . L . Stean , the veteran P . M ., next proposed with beconvng terms "The Health of the W . M . " He said his long experience as an old Freemason had not brought him-into relationship with a brother who had so steadily and

successfully promoted the welfare of a lodge as Bro . Glass had the Euphrates Lodge . They all were aware how excellently he had worked in the lodge , but they could not all be aware how indefatigably he had worked at all times out of the lodge , besides undertaking the duties of the Secretary . Bro . Stean concluded by urging all who wished to excel in their Masonic career to take a leaf out of the W . Master's book . Bro . Glass , W . M ., in a few well-chosen words ,

returned thanks for the honour the brethren had done him . It was very gratifying to him to leain that at the end of his second year of oflice he had gained the esteem and approbation of the brethren of the lodge . His one aim had been to promote the welfare and secure a harmonious lodge , and his crown of reward had , he felt , been accorded him by their late esteemed and veteran P . M ., Bro . Coverley , upon his deathbed . " Thank God . " he had said , " Bro . Glass ,

1 have lived to see perfect unanimity in our lodge . " That unanimity he ( the W . M . ) would , so long as he continued a member of the Euphrates Lodge , do his utmost to sustain , and he thanked the brethren for this renewed mark of their appreciation of his services during the two years of his Mastership . The remaining toasts ' given were "The Past Masters , " ably replied for on behalf of those brethren by Bro . Stean ; "The Visitors , " suitably acknowledged by Bros . J . H .

Pavitt , W . M . 860 ; G . H . Stephens , W . M . 1623 ; and F . C . D . Fenn , P . M . 171 j and " The Masonic Charities , " Bro . Stean also replying to this , and Bro . Halsey , P . M ., on behalf of thc lodge Benevolent Fund , which was in capital position ; and " The Officers" and Tyler ' s toasts concluded a very pleasant meeting . Bro . Schartau , as usual , efficiently presided at the piano , and also rendered some capital songs , and Bro . Fenn favoured the brethren with a humorous song .

FRIARS LODGE ( No . 1349 )—The above lodge held a highly successful meeting on the 17 th inst ., at the London Tavern , Fenchurch-street , E . C . Lodge was opened by Bro . W . Mustop , P . M . and Treas ., and on arrival

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shortly after of the W . M ., Bro . E . J . Friedeberg ( who had been detained in consequence of having to journey across the Channel , a full business was disposed of in very capital style . The ceremonial working was as follows : Bro . J . Levienne , after being duly tested and entrusted , was passed to the Second Degree , and Bros . Marks , De Casurus , Prower , McDonald , R . Jones , and another brother were raised to the Sublime Degree , Bro . Friedeberg acquitting

himself of his arduous duties with remarkable efficiency and finish , whilst the officers and Past Masters rendered every necessary assistance . Some items of lodge business were next satisfactorily disposed of , and the lodge was closed . The brethren then adjourned to the Alabaster Room , where a nicely served banquet was partaken of , giving entire satisfaction . At the conclusion of thc repast the

W . M . duly introduced the usual loyal and Craft toasts , which were loyally honoured . "The Health of the W . M . " was given in deservedly framed words of praise upon the success attending Bro . Friedeberg's working in the chair , and in response to the hearty reception which greeted the toast of his health the W . M . expressed himself grateful to Bro . Musto , I . P . M ., for the eulogistic terms he had employed , and said he

attributed much of the praise that had been bestowed upon him tothe gratification which Bro . Musto , P . M ., felt that one from among his many pupils should display the great advantages he had derived from his teaching . He ( Bro . Friedeberg ) had to thank Bro . Musto for his knowledge of Masonry . The other toasts given were those of "The Past Masters of the Lodge , " responded to by Bros . Musto , P . M ., and

Hogg , P . M . ; "The Visitors , " acknowledged by Bros . T . O . Harding and G . H . Stephens ; and "TheOfficers , " responded to by the brethren severally . Among the numerous attendance were Bros . W . J . Musto , S . W . ; Sadd , I . W . ; W . Musto , P . M ., Treas . ; W . Hogg , Sec . ; H . Marks , S . D . ; W . Shoesmith , I . G . ; Quincey , Christmas , Mitchell , Minchin , Hallam , P . M .,

Booth , A . Peterken , P . M . ; J . A . De Costa ; li . DeCosta , F . Saunders , and J . Marks . Visitors : Bros . B . Franks , Z 12 ; H . Hallam , True Friendship ; T . O . Harding , J . Solomons , G . H . Stephens , and others . The post prandial proceedings were capitally enlivened by some good singing by Bros . E . Monk , Hillocks , and others , a favourite reading by Bro . W . J . Musto , S . W ., and a most enjoyable evening was spent .

COVENT GARDEN LODGE ( No . 1614 ) . — The regular meeting of this lodge was held at The Criterion , Piccadilly , on the 2 nd inst . Bro . G . Coleman , W . M ., presided , supported by the following officers * •Bros . J . Jacobs , S . W . ; T . A . Dickson , J . W . ; E . J acobs , P . M ., Treas . ; W . Bourne , P . M ., Sec ; C . Ralph ; acting as S . D . ; B . Solomons , J . D . ; G . Reynolds , acting as I . G . ; S . Jacobs , P . M .. W . S . ; K .-F . Potter , Tyler ; G . A . Holditch ,

T . Wilson , A . Bryan , W . Unwin . S . Hewett , W . Cousins , C . Ralph , D . Mordecai , S . Isaacs , L . Isaacs , J . Napper , A . Freeman , T . Snow , G . Howard , J . L . Ripley , C . J . Shannon , T . Skinner , G . H . Reynolds , 1 ] . Woodward , and G . N . Foord . Visitors : Bros . Rose , 1793 ; A . Clark , P . M . 1227 ; Z . Mordecai , 134 S ; G . W . Churchley , P . M . 290 , G 15 , and 1 S 37 , P . P . G . S . Kent ; and VV . A . Dowling , 2012 . The lodge was opened in due form , and the minutes of

the last meeting were read and confirmed . Bro . A . Bryan was then passed to the degree of F . C . A ballot was taken for Mr . G . H . Foord , which proving unanimous , he was duly initiated into Freemasonry , the W . M . rendering the ceremonies in a clear and distinct manner , assisted by his officers . Bro . J . Jacobs , S . W ., was unanimously elected W . M . for the ensuing year . Bro . E . Jacobs , P . M ., was re-elected Treas . ; Bro . Wm . Bourne , P . M ., Sec ; and

R . F . Potter , Tyler . A Past Master ' s jewel , of the value of 10 guineas , was voted to Bro . G . Coleman , in recognition of his services as W . M . for the past year , and Bros . W . Cousins , S . Hewitt , and D . Mordecai were appointed as Audit Committee . The VV . M . having received the " Hearty good wishes " of the visiting brethren , the lodge was closed in ancient form , and the brethren adjourned to the banqueting room , where an excellent dinner was served , under the

superintendence of Bro . Bertini , of Messrs . Spiers and Pond . After the usual Masonic toasts had been duly honoured , Bro . E . Jacobs , P . M ., in the unavoidable absence of Bro . W . H . Gulliford , I . P . M ., took the gavel in his hand , and proposed "The Health of their worthy W . M . " It was the last time his health would be drank as W . M . of that lodge , and he felt sure it would be received well , as it ought

to be . He was not a member of any other lodge ; but his attention from an [ initiate going through all the offices was an example to all . The W . M . had worked hard , and been rewarded by occupying the proud position of K . S . for the past year , which , he felt sure , had been done to the satisfaction of the brethren . He was a good fellow out of the lodge , as well as in , and when the P . M . 's jewel was presented to him , he might wear it with pride , having served

all the offices in a true and Masonic spirit , and feeling that he had earned the same . The W . M ., in reply , said he certainly felt gratified that he had pleased the brethren of the lodge , which was proved by the hearty manner his health had been drunk . He trusted that for many years to come he would not only be able to give support to the mother , lodge , but also to the lodge of instruction connected with the lodge , where he

had received such instruction as enabled him to perform his duties to the satisfaction of the brethren . He met there many brethren anxious for work , and as a P . M . would still support the same and the lodge to the best of bis ability . In proposing "The Health of the Initiate , " the W . M . said the brethren must have observed the attention he paid to the ceremony , and he hoped some day to see him in the

position he now occupied . The Initiate returned his sincere thanks for the manner he had been received amongst them , and he would make it his duty to attend to the words of the W . M . and pay all the attention he could , and try to become a true and good Mason . The W . M ., in proposing "Thc Health of the W . M .

Elect , " said all knew how well he did his work in the different offices he had occupied , and there could be no doubt that as their W . M . he would give every attention to the same , and endeavour to make the brethren happy . The VV . M . elect thanked the brethren for their kind expressions of feeling , and said nothing should be wanting on his part for good working and the unity of the brethren .

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