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Bro . W . A . F . POWELL , Prov . G . M . for Bristol : I second it . The motion was carried unanimously and amidst general applause . The Earl of MOUNT EDGCUMBE : Brethren , now I move the formal resolution . " That the seal of Grand Lodge be affixed to this address . " Bro . POWELL seconded . The motion was carried .
The Earl of MOUNT EDGCUMBE : And now , brethren , I have to propose another motion which I am sure will also have your sympathy . We all know—it is now some little time ago—but you all remember the thrilling accounts of the great distress occasioned by the floods in Queensland , in Brisbane and the neighbouring towns . It is a large district . I need not tell you there are many of our brethren there who have suffered severely . I need not also tell you that many of them are in a position in which
they might shrink from asking assistance from the general fund raised for that purpose . We have received from the District Grand Secretary copy of a resolution of the Grand Lodge making an appeal to this Grand Lodge for some contribution towards the losses of our brethren . I will not anticipate what the Grand Secretary will read ; but I think it would be just as well youshould hear ( it is not very long ) the letter received from the Grand Secretary of , the District .
Bro . E . LETCHWORTH , G . Sec , then read the letter of Bro . John Fenwick , of Brisbane , the District Grand Secretary of Queensland , detailing the effects of the floods in Brisbane of last February , and stating the efforts that had been made to relieve the general distress caused thereby ; stating also what funds had been raised on behalf of the Masonic brethren b y Masonic bodies under the English , Scotch , and Irish Constitutions , to which
the assistance of the Grand Lodge of England was asked . Moreover , additional want was caused by the temporary suspension in April of Australian banks . Bro . Fenwick also stated that under the circumstances they thought they would be justified in approaching the Grand Lodge of England , believing that their appeal in such dire emergency would be received in a fraternal and generous spirit .
The Earl of MOUNT EDGCUMBE : Brethren , I had not had an opportunity of seeing that letter beforehand . I was absent from London . But a communication was made to me that at the last Board of Masters a notice of motion would be submitted for giving a sum of money , and I thought I should be only doing what you would wish if I sanctioned the puttingdown in my name of a notice of motion— " That the sum of 300 guineas be voted
from the Fund of General Purposes for the relief of brethren in the District of Queensland who have suffered from the recent disastrous floods . " Bro . W . A . F . P OWELL : I h « ve much pleasure in seconding it . The motion was carried unanimously . Bro . Dr . STRONG : Before the report of the Board of Benevolence is proceeded with , may I venture to propose a resolution ? It has been said ,
Sir , that Charity begins at home . ( Cries of " Order , order . " ) The Earl of M OUNT EDGCUMBE said the motion had been carried , and that Dr . Strong was out of order . The report of the Board of Benevolence was then adopted , on the motion of Bro . R OBERT GREY , President , seconded by Bro . JAMES BRETT , S . V . P ., and the following grants were confirmed :
The widow of a brother of the Ionic Lodge , No . 227 , London ... ... ... ... ... ... £ 50 o o A brother of the St . John's Lodge , No , 16 7 , Hampstead ... 50 o o The widow of a brother of the St . Peter ' s Lodge , No . 476 , Carmarthen ... ... ... ... ... 75 o o The widow of a brother of the Phoenix Lodge of St . Ann , No . 1235 , Buxton ... ... ... ... 50 o o
The following report of the Board of General Purposes was adopted , on the motion of Bro . THOMAS FENN , seconded by Bro . W . A . SCURRAH . To the United Grand Lodge of Ancient Free and Accepted Masons of England . The Board have to report that the following presentations have been made to the Library and Museum since the last report of the Board of General Purposes in May , 1893 :
TITLE OR OOJECT . PRESENTED BY 60 Volumes of Masonic Review of Cincinnati ... T . H . Emmons , of Boston , U . S . A . " Freemasonry at Bottoms , Eastwood , ' ' Yorkshire The Author , J . E . Craven , P . M . 308 Centennial Medal of the Perfect Union Lodge , No . 1 R . Lambert , G . Sec . Louisiana . Catalogue of the Library Lodge Quatuor Coionati , No . 2076 ' G . W . Speth , Secretary . History of Freemasonry in Hertfordshire The Author , G . Blizard Abbott .
Portrait of the Hon . Henry Hobart , Prov . G . M . I Norfolk j 1708-9 Portrait of the Earl of Leicester , P . G . M . Norfolk , J-G . W . G . Barnard , P . G . Sec . Norfolk 1818-42 I Portrait of Lord Suffield , P . G . M . Norfolk , 1 S 45-53 J By-laws and History of the Stewart Lodge , Rawal Pindi Capt . J . H . Leslie , W . M . 1960 . Alphabetical . List of Oflicers and Members of the Grand Chapter from 1795 to 1891 , in MS . ... W . H . R y lands , P . G . Steward . Two Silver Masonic Medals J . G . Twinn , P . M ., Sec . noG .
The Mason ' s Miscellany , Vol . I ., 1830 W . H . Lee , P . M ., & c . By-laws and History of the Carnarvon Lodge , No . 804 ' Thomas Francis , P . M ., & c . The Yorkshire Lodges ) The Masonic Star , 1888-9 ... >¦ J . H . Jewell , P . M ., & c . Thirteen Masonic Manuals for Kent ) Masonic Brooch ... _ ,. Robert Grey , P . B . B . Constitutions and Centennial Medal of the National
Grand Orient of Spain E . E . Woof , W . M . 235 , Biboa . "What is Freemasonry ? " G . W . Speth , P . M ., & c . The Board also submit a statement of the Grand Lodge accounts at the last meetingof the Finance Committee , held on Friday , the nth day of August inst ., showing a balance in the Bank of England ( Western Branch ) of ^ 5 644 3 s . 4 d .,
and in the hands of the Grand Secretary for petty cash , £ 100 , and for servants ' wages , , £ 100 , and balance of annual allowance for library , £ g gs . iod . ( Signed ) THOMAS FENN , President . Freemasons' Hall , London , W . C , 15 th August , 1893 .
Bro . Thos . FENN said there was no recommendation arising out of the Report . The next business on the paper was the following Notice of motion by Bro . WILLIAM FAROUHARSON LAMONBY , P . M . 9 G 2 and
1002—That in order to insure and preserve the rights and financial standing of its members in foreign parts , where District Grand Lodges have been dissolved , consequent on the establishment of independent Grand Lodges , this Grand Lodge considers it expedient to have in its possession all books , returns , and
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documents relating to registrations , made in accordance with Article III ., Book of Constitutions , in connection with such dissolved districts , and that , therefore , the late District Grand Secretaries of the dissolved District Grand Lodges of South Australia , New South Wales , Victoria , and Tasmania , be requested to forward to the Grand Secretary the books , returns , and documents referred to .
Bro . PHILBRICK said he rose to order , the motionbeingonewhich . it was not competent for Grand Lodge to entertain . It was grounded on the 1 nth Clause of the Book of Constitutions , by which , in certain cases , District Grand Masters had to make certain returns direct to Grand Lod ge . The motion here was a request to District Grand Secretaries of dissolved Grand Lodges or late District Grand Secretaries ; with them , as such , the
Book of Constitutions of thc English Grand Lodge had nothing whatever to do . It was the District Grand Master who was in the position to make the returns and to whom Grand Lodge looked . This resolution did not purport to say that returns had not been made , nor was it , he believed , intended to be asserted that the returns made for District Grand Lodges which had been dissolved and the new Grand Lodges recognised were not all duly made .
What the motion did say was that the books which had belonged to the District Grand Lodges should be handed over to Grand Lodge . Now , such a thing as that could not be , and for this reason—the Grand Lodge had no jurisdiction over dissolved Grand Lodges . Grand Lodge had certain rig hts under the Book of Constitutions . To request District Grand Lodges which were dissolved was out of the question ; it could not request a dissolved body to do anything . The resolution proposed to request late Grand Secretaries of dissolved District Grand Lodges to hand over to
Grand Lodge that which Grand Lodge had neither tithe nor title to . They had a power to enforce if District Grand Lodges were still in existence , but as they had been dissolved , it was quite impossible , even if they were to request them , as the District Grand Lodges were dissolved . He begged , therefore , to ask the Grand Master ' s ruling to that effect , he ( Bro . Philbrick ) ., as the adviser of Grand Lodge , advising him that this resolution was beyond the cognisance of this Grand Lodge .
Bro . W . F . LAMONBY asked to be allowed to speak to the point of order . This notice of motion was given with a clear intention that justice should be done to certain brethren . Bro . PHILBRICK said that that last remark had nothing to do with the question of the point of order .
Bro . LAMONBY repeated the notice of motion was given with the object of doing justice to certain brethren who had been branded as not being returned to this Grand Lodge . Bro . PHILBRICK again interposed ! and said going into the merits of the case had nothing to do with the point of order , on which alone Bro . Lamonby was now allowed to speak .
The Ear ! of MOUNT EDGCUMBE reminded Bro . Lamonby that he was not speaking to the point of order . Bro . LAMONBY conceived that he was . Bro . PHILBRICK said the only point before the Grand Lodge now was the point of order .
The Earl of MOUNT EDGCUMBE said that Bro . Lamonby could only speak tothe point of order , and he could not go into the . merits of the question involved in his motion or into the question of the jurisdiction of this Grand Lodge . Bro . LAMONBY submitted that he was perfectly in order , because the District authorities were properly asked to make these returns to the Grand Lodge . That was his contention .
The'Earl of MOUNT EDGCUMBE said a difficult task was thrown upon him , and he had considered the question carefully . He had to decide whether this motion of Bro . Lamonby's was or was not in order . Bro . RICHARD EVE hoped before his lordship gave his decision he would allow him to speak on the point of order . Bro . Lamonby , as it was well known , had laid his form of resolution before the Board of Masters . He
( Bro . Eve ) had on previous occasions laid notices of motion before the Board of Masters and he had reason to regret it because his notice was ruled out of Order by the Grand Registrar . But when a notice of motion had passed the Board of Masters it was considered to be in order . Today it had been ruled by the Grand Registrar himself that it was the duty of those present at the Board of Masters to see that the noiice of motion
was in proper terms . It . was not for him to come now and say that it was not in order when it had passed the Board of Masters , 1 he Board of Masters had power over this notice . He was told six months ago that he was out of order and he obeyed the regulation laid down . But now Bro . Lamonby was informed that he was out of order when- the very brethren who were members of the Board of Masters should have seen that the
agenda paper was not encumbered with an informal notice of motion . For that reason , he said , do not be too hasty and say the notice was out of order . With regard to the question of the duties of District Grand Masters , it was the duty of District Grand Masters to make all returns to Grand Lodge and to send it all warrants returned by lodges . He said that having ceased to hold allegiance to Grand Lodge of England it was the duty of such
lodges who had ceased to hold allegiance to send their warrants to tne District Grand Master , and it was the duty of the District Grand Master to return them to the Grand Lodge of England . ( Cries of " Vote , vote . " ) He contended that the difficulty might be very easily remedied by inserting in the notice of motion instead of District Grand Secretaries , thc words— " District Grand Masters ; " and he asked Grand Lodge so to hold .
Bro . PHILBRICK said Grand Lodge had no power over District Grana Masters where District Grand Lodges had been dissolved . Bro . Eve knew that this resolution required great circumspection before it was put on the notice paper . As it was it was given in at the last moment without any body knowing of it beforehand , and Bro . Lamonby stated that it was so given with an object .
Bro . LAMONBY : I said nothing of the sort . Bro . PHILBRICK said he was putting the matter as it was reported , 'j was certainly broken in upon the Grand Secretary . But whether it appea " on thc agenda or not it could not be given as a matter of jurisdiction when Grand Lodge had no jurisdiction , and it might place Grand Lodge in a difficult position . f A BROTHER at the lower end of the hall remarked that it was surely i "
the Chairman to say whether the notice was in order or not . The Earl of MOUNT EDCUMBE said that a great responsibility was cas ^ upon him , and he should not be worthy the position he held if he desired t shirk that 1 csponsibility . He must , however , say that with regard to tn' - motion being before the Board of Masters , he had before him a P ° { to go upon . In that report , this is what he had got— " a notice ^ motion was handed in " at the last moment by Bro . W . F . Lamonby .
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Bro . W . A . F . POWELL , Prov . G . M . for Bristol : I second it . The motion was carried unanimously and amidst general applause . The Earl of MOUNT EDGCUMBE : Brethren , now I move the formal resolution . " That the seal of Grand Lodge be affixed to this address . " Bro . POWELL seconded . The motion was carried .
The Earl of MOUNT EDGCUMBE : And now , brethren , I have to propose another motion which I am sure will also have your sympathy . We all know—it is now some little time ago—but you all remember the thrilling accounts of the great distress occasioned by the floods in Queensland , in Brisbane and the neighbouring towns . It is a large district . I need not tell you there are many of our brethren there who have suffered severely . I need not also tell you that many of them are in a position in which
they might shrink from asking assistance from the general fund raised for that purpose . We have received from the District Grand Secretary copy of a resolution of the Grand Lodge making an appeal to this Grand Lodge for some contribution towards the losses of our brethren . I will not anticipate what the Grand Secretary will read ; but I think it would be just as well youshould hear ( it is not very long ) the letter received from the Grand Secretary of , the District .
Bro . E . LETCHWORTH , G . Sec , then read the letter of Bro . John Fenwick , of Brisbane , the District Grand Secretary of Queensland , detailing the effects of the floods in Brisbane of last February , and stating the efforts that had been made to relieve the general distress caused thereby ; stating also what funds had been raised on behalf of the Masonic brethren b y Masonic bodies under the English , Scotch , and Irish Constitutions , to which
the assistance of the Grand Lodge of England was asked . Moreover , additional want was caused by the temporary suspension in April of Australian banks . Bro . Fenwick also stated that under the circumstances they thought they would be justified in approaching the Grand Lodge of England , believing that their appeal in such dire emergency would be received in a fraternal and generous spirit .
The Earl of MOUNT EDGCUMBE : Brethren , I had not had an opportunity of seeing that letter beforehand . I was absent from London . But a communication was made to me that at the last Board of Masters a notice of motion would be submitted for giving a sum of money , and I thought I should be only doing what you would wish if I sanctioned the puttingdown in my name of a notice of motion— " That the sum of 300 guineas be voted
from the Fund of General Purposes for the relief of brethren in the District of Queensland who have suffered from the recent disastrous floods . " Bro . W . A . F . P OWELL : I h « ve much pleasure in seconding it . The motion was carried unanimously . Bro . Dr . STRONG : Before the report of the Board of Benevolence is proceeded with , may I venture to propose a resolution ? It has been said ,
Sir , that Charity begins at home . ( Cries of " Order , order . " ) The Earl of M OUNT EDGCUMBE said the motion had been carried , and that Dr . Strong was out of order . The report of the Board of Benevolence was then adopted , on the motion of Bro . R OBERT GREY , President , seconded by Bro . JAMES BRETT , S . V . P ., and the following grants were confirmed :
The widow of a brother of the Ionic Lodge , No . 227 , London ... ... ... ... ... ... £ 50 o o A brother of the St . John's Lodge , No , 16 7 , Hampstead ... 50 o o The widow of a brother of the St . Peter ' s Lodge , No . 476 , Carmarthen ... ... ... ... ... 75 o o The widow of a brother of the Phoenix Lodge of St . Ann , No . 1235 , Buxton ... ... ... ... 50 o o
The following report of the Board of General Purposes was adopted , on the motion of Bro . THOMAS FENN , seconded by Bro . W . A . SCURRAH . To the United Grand Lodge of Ancient Free and Accepted Masons of England . The Board have to report that the following presentations have been made to the Library and Museum since the last report of the Board of General Purposes in May , 1893 :
TITLE OR OOJECT . PRESENTED BY 60 Volumes of Masonic Review of Cincinnati ... T . H . Emmons , of Boston , U . S . A . " Freemasonry at Bottoms , Eastwood , ' ' Yorkshire The Author , J . E . Craven , P . M . 308 Centennial Medal of the Perfect Union Lodge , No . 1 R . Lambert , G . Sec . Louisiana . Catalogue of the Library Lodge Quatuor Coionati , No . 2076 ' G . W . Speth , Secretary . History of Freemasonry in Hertfordshire The Author , G . Blizard Abbott .
Portrait of the Hon . Henry Hobart , Prov . G . M . I Norfolk j 1708-9 Portrait of the Earl of Leicester , P . G . M . Norfolk , J-G . W . G . Barnard , P . G . Sec . Norfolk 1818-42 I Portrait of Lord Suffield , P . G . M . Norfolk , 1 S 45-53 J By-laws and History of the Stewart Lodge , Rawal Pindi Capt . J . H . Leslie , W . M . 1960 . Alphabetical . List of Oflicers and Members of the Grand Chapter from 1795 to 1891 , in MS . ... W . H . R y lands , P . G . Steward . Two Silver Masonic Medals J . G . Twinn , P . M ., Sec . noG .
The Mason ' s Miscellany , Vol . I ., 1830 W . H . Lee , P . M ., & c . By-laws and History of the Carnarvon Lodge , No . 804 ' Thomas Francis , P . M ., & c . The Yorkshire Lodges ) The Masonic Star , 1888-9 ... >¦ J . H . Jewell , P . M ., & c . Thirteen Masonic Manuals for Kent ) Masonic Brooch ... _ ,. Robert Grey , P . B . B . Constitutions and Centennial Medal of the National
Grand Orient of Spain E . E . Woof , W . M . 235 , Biboa . "What is Freemasonry ? " G . W . Speth , P . M ., & c . The Board also submit a statement of the Grand Lodge accounts at the last meetingof the Finance Committee , held on Friday , the nth day of August inst ., showing a balance in the Bank of England ( Western Branch ) of ^ 5 644 3 s . 4 d .,
and in the hands of the Grand Secretary for petty cash , £ 100 , and for servants ' wages , , £ 100 , and balance of annual allowance for library , £ g gs . iod . ( Signed ) THOMAS FENN , President . Freemasons' Hall , London , W . C , 15 th August , 1893 .
Bro . Thos . FENN said there was no recommendation arising out of the Report . The next business on the paper was the following Notice of motion by Bro . WILLIAM FAROUHARSON LAMONBY , P . M . 9 G 2 and
1002—That in order to insure and preserve the rights and financial standing of its members in foreign parts , where District Grand Lodges have been dissolved , consequent on the establishment of independent Grand Lodges , this Grand Lodge considers it expedient to have in its possession all books , returns , and
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documents relating to registrations , made in accordance with Article III ., Book of Constitutions , in connection with such dissolved districts , and that , therefore , the late District Grand Secretaries of the dissolved District Grand Lodges of South Australia , New South Wales , Victoria , and Tasmania , be requested to forward to the Grand Secretary the books , returns , and documents referred to .
Bro . PHILBRICK said he rose to order , the motionbeingonewhich . it was not competent for Grand Lodge to entertain . It was grounded on the 1 nth Clause of the Book of Constitutions , by which , in certain cases , District Grand Masters had to make certain returns direct to Grand Lod ge . The motion here was a request to District Grand Secretaries of dissolved Grand Lodges or late District Grand Secretaries ; with them , as such , the
Book of Constitutions of thc English Grand Lodge had nothing whatever to do . It was the District Grand Master who was in the position to make the returns and to whom Grand Lodge looked . This resolution did not purport to say that returns had not been made , nor was it , he believed , intended to be asserted that the returns made for District Grand Lodges which had been dissolved and the new Grand Lodges recognised were not all duly made .
What the motion did say was that the books which had belonged to the District Grand Lodges should be handed over to Grand Lodge . Now , such a thing as that could not be , and for this reason—the Grand Lodge had no jurisdiction over dissolved Grand Lodges . Grand Lodge had certain rig hts under the Book of Constitutions . To request District Grand Lodges which were dissolved was out of the question ; it could not request a dissolved body to do anything . The resolution proposed to request late Grand Secretaries of dissolved District Grand Lodges to hand over to
Grand Lodge that which Grand Lodge had neither tithe nor title to . They had a power to enforce if District Grand Lodges were still in existence , but as they had been dissolved , it was quite impossible , even if they were to request them , as the District Grand Lodges were dissolved . He begged , therefore , to ask the Grand Master ' s ruling to that effect , he ( Bro . Philbrick ) ., as the adviser of Grand Lodge , advising him that this resolution was beyond the cognisance of this Grand Lodge .
Bro . W . F . LAMONBY asked to be allowed to speak to the point of order . This notice of motion was given with a clear intention that justice should be done to certain brethren . Bro . PHILBRICK said that that last remark had nothing to do with the question of the point of order .
Bro . LAMONBY repeated the notice of motion was given with the object of doing justice to certain brethren who had been branded as not being returned to this Grand Lodge . Bro . PHILBRICK again interposed ! and said going into the merits of the case had nothing to do with the point of order , on which alone Bro . Lamonby was now allowed to speak .
The Ear ! of MOUNT EDGCUMBE reminded Bro . Lamonby that he was not speaking to the point of order . Bro . LAMONBY conceived that he was . Bro . PHILBRICK said the only point before the Grand Lodge now was the point of order .
The Earl of MOUNT EDGCUMBE said that Bro . Lamonby could only speak tothe point of order , and he could not go into the . merits of the question involved in his motion or into the question of the jurisdiction of this Grand Lodge . Bro . LAMONBY submitted that he was perfectly in order , because the District authorities were properly asked to make these returns to the Grand Lodge . That was his contention .
The'Earl of MOUNT EDGCUMBE said a difficult task was thrown upon him , and he had considered the question carefully . He had to decide whether this motion of Bro . Lamonby's was or was not in order . Bro . RICHARD EVE hoped before his lordship gave his decision he would allow him to speak on the point of order . Bro . Lamonby , as it was well known , had laid his form of resolution before the Board of Masters . He
( Bro . Eve ) had on previous occasions laid notices of motion before the Board of Masters and he had reason to regret it because his notice was ruled out of Order by the Grand Registrar . But when a notice of motion had passed the Board of Masters it was considered to be in order . Today it had been ruled by the Grand Registrar himself that it was the duty of those present at the Board of Masters to see that the noiice of motion
was in proper terms . It . was not for him to come now and say that it was not in order when it had passed the Board of Masters , 1 he Board of Masters had power over this notice . He was told six months ago that he was out of order and he obeyed the regulation laid down . But now Bro . Lamonby was informed that he was out of order when- the very brethren who were members of the Board of Masters should have seen that the
agenda paper was not encumbered with an informal notice of motion . For that reason , he said , do not be too hasty and say the notice was out of order . With regard to the question of the duties of District Grand Masters , it was the duty of District Grand Masters to make all returns to Grand Lodge and to send it all warrants returned by lodges . He said that having ceased to hold allegiance to Grand Lodge of England it was the duty of such
lodges who had ceased to hold allegiance to send their warrants to tne District Grand Master , and it was the duty of the District Grand Master to return them to the Grand Lodge of England . ( Cries of " Vote , vote . " ) He contended that the difficulty might be very easily remedied by inserting in the notice of motion instead of District Grand Secretaries , thc words— " District Grand Masters ; " and he asked Grand Lodge so to hold .
Bro . PHILBRICK said Grand Lodge had no power over District Grana Masters where District Grand Lodges had been dissolved . Bro . Eve knew that this resolution required great circumspection before it was put on the notice paper . As it was it was given in at the last moment without any body knowing of it beforehand , and Bro . Lamonby stated that it was so given with an object .
Bro . LAMONBY : I said nothing of the sort . Bro . PHILBRICK said he was putting the matter as it was reported , 'j was certainly broken in upon the Grand Secretary . But whether it appea " on thc agenda or not it could not be given as a matter of jurisdiction when Grand Lodge had no jurisdiction , and it might place Grand Lodge in a difficult position . f A BROTHER at the lower end of the hall remarked that it was surely i "
the Chairman to say whether the notice was in order or not . The Earl of MOUNT EDCUMBE said that a great responsibility was cas ^ upon him , and he should not be worthy the position he held if he desired t shirk that 1 csponsibility . He must , however , say that with regard to tn' - motion being before the Board of Masters , he had before him a P ° { to go upon . In that report , this is what he had got— " a notice ^ motion was handed in " at the last moment by Bro . W . F . Lamonby .