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    Article UNITED GRAND LODGE OF ENGLAND. ← Page 10 of 12 →
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United Grand Lodge Of England.

Bro . JOSEPH would pledge himself not to repeat a single argument already adduced , but , opposed as he was to the motion now before the chair , he could not abstain from bringing forward some reasons not yet touched upon . It had been asserted , no doubt with truth , that brethren joined red apron lodges for the express purpose , and with no other intention , than that of becoming Grand Stewards . Now he would inquire , how the supporters of the measure could ask for the extension of the

privilege to all the London lodges , depriving , at all events for a time , if this proposition was carried , the lodges that now had the power of granting it ? What was their sense of justice , he would ask , towards those who had paid their money , and joined a lodge for this very purpose , ancl would now be deprived of it ? They had paid their money upon the supposition that the lodge had something to bestow , but when the time came , the gift would be in the possession of another lodge .

His friend , Bro . Phillips , had said , " it was a mere money qualification . " He found , in every society—in everything in the world—money was the great qualification ; and he regretted to find himself opposed to his friend and Bro . Faudel , they must know that money was the all powerful consideration ; the present red apron lodges were in possession of all the wealth , all the talent , and all the education to be found in Masonry ( The laughter and noise prevented the brother from proceeding . ) The GRAND MASTER asked if the mover intended to reply , as now was the time .

Bro . BIGG would reverse the order of things , and answer the last speaker first , although he had fully expected to have hacl a tilt with many more of the brethren than those who had entered the lists . —Bro . Jennings , for instance , seemed by his papers to be armed for the combat , but hacl not taken part in the fray ; he ( Bro . Bigg ) would take his opponents in rotation—the last had been so completely dealt with by the Grancl Lodge that he need not make any comment on his remarkshis predecessorwhom he miht be permitted to call his learned brother

, g , Humfrey , had certainly said a great deal about the Craft , and being informed of our quarrelling among ourselves , and other irrelevant matters , but what related really to the subject under discussion he had scarcely touched upon with a new idea , and had only added a great many sentences to the point urged by the R . AV . Bro . Alston—indeed , he might say of him as had been said of a learned brother , Parker , " what was dark before he had made much darker . " The Grancl

Registrar had endeavoured to shew that charity guided the selection of a Grand Steward ; that was known to be an error , and the paper which had been so industriously circulated , containing extraordinary calculations , hacl at last found a parentage , of which the anomymous author seemed at first ashamed ; but even the figures were in no way authenticated , and had been said to be incorrect ; it could not , therefore , be looked upon as authority . Bro . Alston had , really , made the speech of the eveningand had produced the onlremark worthy of being called

, y an argument , yet he would show that , in the view he took , he was not suggesting any improvement upon the plan proposed , nor did he prove any impropriety or injustice in his ( Bro . Bigg ' s ) motion ; his only objection was , that he did not extend sufficiently the privilege of granting the red apron , because he took only the London lodges ; this was only an imaginary fault , put forward in the absence of more real and solid reasons ; the R . W . Brother , with the talent which he always

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THE FREEMASONS' QUARTERLYREVIEW, Article 1
MASONIC REPROOF. Article 8
ON FREEMASONRY, Article 9
CHAPTER II. Article 14
THE FREEMASONS' LEXICON. Article 18
IMPORTANT MASONIC RECORD. Article 26
AM ACCOUNT OF THE NEAPOLITAN MASONRY ; Article 31
A SUCCINCT ACCOUNT OF THE LIFE OF THE WRITER. Article 33
TO THE EDITOR. Article 40
TO THE EDITOR. Article 40
TO THE EDITOR. Article 41
TO THE EDITOR. Article 43
TO THE EDITOR. Article 45
TO THE EDITOR. Article 45
MASONIC INTELLIGENCE. Article 46
UNITED GRAND LODGE OF ENGLAND. Article 47
QUARTERLY COMMUNICATION, JUNE 7. Article 58
GRAND CONCLAVE OF ENGLAND AND WALES. Article 64
THE EARLY GRAND ENCAMPMENT OF ENGLAND AND CONCLAVE OF FAITH AND FIDELITY. Article 66
THE FREDERICK ENCAMPMENT, Article 66
SUPREME GRAND COUNCIL FOR ENGLAND AND WALES. Article 67
RE-UNION OF THE BURLINGTON AND BANK OF ENGLAND LODGES. Article 68
THE CHARITIES. Article 69
ASYLUM FOR WORTHY AGED AND DECAYED FREEMASONS. Article 70
Untitled Article 71
CHIT CHAT. Article 80
Obituary. Article 87
PROVINCIAL. Article 90
SCOTLAND. Article 98
IRELAND. Article 99
FOREIGN. Article 102
INDIA. Article 104
THE GENERAL ASSURANCE ADVOCATE. Article 108
LITERARY NOTICES. Article 116
TO CORRESPONDENTS. Article 119
CONTENTS. Article 121
TO THE MANAGING DIRECTOR S, ACTUARIES, & SECRETARIES , OF INSURANCE COMPANIES. Article 122
W^^^^^^^^^^^^^M^M Article 123
GALL'S ANTIBILIOUS PILLS —Tbe most usefu... Article 124
FREEMASONS' QUARTERLY ADVERTISER. SECOND... Article 125
FREEMASONS' HOTEL, GREAT QUEEN STREET, L... Article 126
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FREEMASONRY. LINE ENGRAVING OF THE STATU... Article 126
FREEMASONRY. BROTHER J. P. ACKLAM, MASON... Article 127
BEMOTAI ! !! W. EVANS, MASONIC JEWELLER ... Article 127
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Untitled Ad 128
Untitled Ad 128
Untitled Ad 128
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CLERICAL, MEDICAL, AND GENERAL LIFE ASSURANCE SOCIETY. Article 129
BONUSES. The two first Divisions average... Article 129
MUTUAL LIEE ASSURANCE SOCIETY, HEAD OFFI... Article 130
HPOSSVILL & Co.'s CIGAR WAREHOUSES, G an... Article 132
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United Grand Lodge Of England.

Bro . JOSEPH would pledge himself not to repeat a single argument already adduced , but , opposed as he was to the motion now before the chair , he could not abstain from bringing forward some reasons not yet touched upon . It had been asserted , no doubt with truth , that brethren joined red apron lodges for the express purpose , and with no other intention , than that of becoming Grand Stewards . Now he would inquire , how the supporters of the measure could ask for the extension of the

privilege to all the London lodges , depriving , at all events for a time , if this proposition was carried , the lodges that now had the power of granting it ? What was their sense of justice , he would ask , towards those who had paid their money , and joined a lodge for this very purpose , ancl would now be deprived of it ? They had paid their money upon the supposition that the lodge had something to bestow , but when the time came , the gift would be in the possession of another lodge .

His friend , Bro . Phillips , had said , " it was a mere money qualification . " He found , in every society—in everything in the world—money was the great qualification ; and he regretted to find himself opposed to his friend and Bro . Faudel , they must know that money was the all powerful consideration ; the present red apron lodges were in possession of all the wealth , all the talent , and all the education to be found in Masonry ( The laughter and noise prevented the brother from proceeding . ) The GRAND MASTER asked if the mover intended to reply , as now was the time .

Bro . BIGG would reverse the order of things , and answer the last speaker first , although he had fully expected to have hacl a tilt with many more of the brethren than those who had entered the lists . —Bro . Jennings , for instance , seemed by his papers to be armed for the combat , but hacl not taken part in the fray ; he ( Bro . Bigg ) would take his opponents in rotation—the last had been so completely dealt with by the Grancl Lodge that he need not make any comment on his remarkshis predecessorwhom he miht be permitted to call his learned brother

, g , Humfrey , had certainly said a great deal about the Craft , and being informed of our quarrelling among ourselves , and other irrelevant matters , but what related really to the subject under discussion he had scarcely touched upon with a new idea , and had only added a great many sentences to the point urged by the R . AV . Bro . Alston—indeed , he might say of him as had been said of a learned brother , Parker , " what was dark before he had made much darker . " The Grancl

Registrar had endeavoured to shew that charity guided the selection of a Grand Steward ; that was known to be an error , and the paper which had been so industriously circulated , containing extraordinary calculations , hacl at last found a parentage , of which the anomymous author seemed at first ashamed ; but even the figures were in no way authenticated , and had been said to be incorrect ; it could not , therefore , be looked upon as authority . Bro . Alston had , really , made the speech of the eveningand had produced the onlremark worthy of being called

, y an argument , yet he would show that , in the view he took , he was not suggesting any improvement upon the plan proposed , nor did he prove any impropriety or injustice in his ( Bro . Bigg ' s ) motion ; his only objection was , that he did not extend sufficiently the privilege of granting the red apron , because he took only the London lodges ; this was only an imaginary fault , put forward in the absence of more real and solid reasons ; the R . W . Brother , with the talent which he always

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