Parliamentary Proceedings.

urged by the Noble Mover of the amendment . He said he would mu-h prefer the mode of subsidy to that of loan , by which we could retain an efficient check in our hands : the details of the Emperor ' s offers , he thought , should be laid before the House . « - Lord Havikesbury observed , that the Address now proposed only pledged their Lordships to the approbation of the Loan on proper conditions ; the subject , therefore , could not properly be considered until the negociation was finished , and the full terms before their Lordships ; he thought the policy of the measure ' ,

under the present circumstances , too obvious to need being pointed out . The Earl of Lauderdale stated his disapprobation of tbe measure at some length , which went as well to the principal as to the component parts of it . Lord Auckland considered the measure as well worthy their Lordships approbation in every point of view . He principally dwelt on the necessity of attaining a powerful land force to oppose the French on the Continent , which , more -than any thing else , would aid our naval exertions . Our situation he admitted

to be dangerous , but that should stimulate us to increased exertion . Lord Grenville in explanation , supported the arguments urged in behalf of the measure . He vindicated the conduct of Ministers , and insisted , that no part of the misfortunes which had recently fallen out could , be imputable to them . Lord Darnley spoke in approbation of the Address . The Marquis of Lansdown explained . He contended for the justice of his former observationsand insistedthat to increase our naval forceto meliorate

, , , the condition of our seamen , and to enact more equal distribution of prizermoney , would be of infinitely move service in securing a happy issue to the war . The wretched condition of the poor was also necessary even in a political view to be now looked to . One measure only he gave administration credit for , the establishment of the Board of Agriculture . An explanatory conversation here took place between Lords Grenville and Abercorn , as to the effect of agreeing to the proposed Address , the . result of

which was , that in their opinions it would only go to pledge their Lordships as to the genera ! principle of the measure , and not to its subsequent details . The amendment was then negatived without a division , and the original Address put and carried . Adjourned .

iz . The Duke ot Bedford rose to mafce his promised motion on the negociation with France , which he prefaced with a speech of some length . He observed it ivas necessary , while at war with any nation , that the clear and distinct grounds of going to war , and the objects for which it was intended , ought clearly and explicitly to be avowed ; this proposition he imagined to be so clear , that no noble Lord would contest it , and such precisely was the object of his motion , lie observed , that upon a minute and deliberate examination of the different declarations of the Government of this country at home , and the manifestoes of

its officers abroad , it could not be clearly ascertained what were the objects we had in view , but what most appeared to him to be the intention was , a design at least to overturn the present form of Government of France , if not to introduce the old despotism of that country . Whether this was the real intent of -Ministers or not he would not say , but it certainly-was considered so by the people of France .. His Grace then adverted to the views of policy which this country could have iii the continuance of the war , and the prospects of bringing it to a successful

issue ; and of this last point-he was sorry to express his serious doubts of its accomplishment ; what were dwelt on as the grounds of hope were , first , the idea that Royatisih was prevalent in that country ; and , secondly , the supposed ill state of the French resources . With respect to Royalism , it would be needless for him to say any thing , after what happened at Lyons , Toulon , and La Yen-. dee , and the very little effect produced by the defection of that popular General , Dumouricr , It was said by a noble Lord , that a pamphlet had been written by 3 French citizen in favour of monarchy , and what was the consequence ? The Dii . :